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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#501 » by Hroz » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:19 am

Hook_Em wrote:This is weird. Weren’t people actually criticizing them for holding out Klay when he was ready to play?


I mean yea
Selfish/Stupid people want players to risk their careers by playing injured.

You see that with social media Klay / IT in Boston and how much hatred was thrown at Kawhi.

It's ridiculous.
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#502 » by darkse1d » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:20 am

Drygon wrote:
-G- wrote:Terrible. Prayers up. Hopefully people will stfu about this guy's legacy. Sacrificed everything to win.


People will still bring up Durant joining a 73-9 winning team lol and how he was never that important for them.


he ruined the nba for 4 years. with him playing, teams have 0 chance to beat the warriors in a 7-game series. it took a superman effort by lebron and kyrie to win against the warriors.

yes he was important because they built a system around the trio of klay, durant and curry. You can't tell me that if the warriors instead had PG13, Harden, Jimmy Butler et al, the warriors wouldn't still be a threat.

Heck, they beat a loaded Rockets team and blitzed through Portland without breaking a sweat and only play 1 quarter out of the 4.
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Re: Has Kevin Durant's Achilles injury changed your view on his legacy with GSW? 

Post#503 » by mcmokken » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:21 am

Not really. It seems less likely now that he will be able to complete his redemption arc though (winning a title elsewhere as the main guy).
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#504 » by California Gold » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:21 am

CycklopsGT wrote:Apparently the recovery time for this is 6 months.


That would be hard to believe. Recovery time for this kind of injury really varies on the tear itself and the athlete. It can easily be a 10-12 month injury.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#505 » by zhenyasj » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:21 am

Free Rider wrote:
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That’s factually untrue. If a team makes a decision that a player is too injured to play and might risk further injuries by doing so, then that player cannot get onto to court no matter how confident he is in his abilities. They’re not just “responsible for disclosing facts and making a recommendation.” It’s literally their call whether a player get to play even if it’s a non life-threatening injury. The fact that some players foolishly choose to play even when there’s a risk doesn’t abdicate the organization from it's responsibility for making that call. Good, smart, thoughtful teams will actually take the player’s long term health into consideration. What we’ve seen from the Warriors and Spurs is that a lot of teams don’t really give a crap about their players and are willing to sacrifice their long term careers for short term gains.

Superstars don't get pressured by teams, it's the other way around. You think KD and his agent will be pressured by a team which he is probably leaving?Also, what did we see with the Warriors prior to this incident? Based on their track record I will give them benefit of the doubt. And we're also talking about NBA Finals here.


Dude, that’s exactly my point. Durant probably wasn’t pressured; he likely legitimately wanted to play and thought he’d be fine. But a good organization should know not to rush a player’s recovery especially because he’s always going to want to get back on the court. I’m not saying these teams are intentionally pressuring players despite the players’ protests knowing full well they’re risking their careers. They’re deferring their responsibility to the players despite ample information that the players aren’t fully healthy and are willing to have the players bear all the risk. And yes it’s precisely because it’s the NBA Finals that they allowed him to play even though it’s no less risky to do so during the Finals than the regular season.

I give Warriors the benefit of the doubt on this. Sure I'm biased, but based on the culture that I've seen built around the organization in the last several years and the people involved, I buy their version.
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Re: Has Kevin Durant's Achilles injury changed your view on his legacy with GSW? 

Post#506 » by Matty » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:21 am

This is my take on it as a Raptors fan

He definitely would have made a difference in this series. I don't want to say GS would have won for sure but they were the favorites and were basically guaranteed an L tonight without the minutes he played.

Last 2 years, and especially last year, I don't think GS needed him to beat Cleveland, but in hindsight do they win a title if KD is not in the picture but on a different team that is stacked? people don't think about it this way but KD probably would have had at least a chip by now if he was on a different contender, like the Raptors, Wizards, or Blazers for example.

A chip for him was inevitable but going to the Warriors white washed the last 2 seasons.
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#507 » by -G- » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:21 am

iamtheking wrote:
Drygon wrote:
-G- wrote:Terrible. Prayers up. Hopefully people will stfu about this guy's legacy. Sacrificed everything to win.


People will still bring up Durant joining a 73-9 winning team lol and how he was never that important for them.


he ruined the nba for 4 years. with him playing, teams have 0 chance to beat the warriors in a 7-game series. it took a superman effort by lebron and kyrie to win against the warriors.

yes he was important because they built a system around the trio of klay, durant and curry. You can't tell me that if the warriors instead had PG13, Harden, Jimmy Butler et al, the warriors wouldn't still be a threat.

Heck, they beat a loaded Rockets team and blitzed through Portland without breaking a sweat and only play 1 quarter out of the 4.


Ruined the NBA for 4 years? Durant's only been there for 3 seasons? And has missed these Finals (outside 12 minutes)?
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#508 » by Guest202 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:22 am

There's not going to be anyone left in the FO or a medical license left near the team once the lawyers come in on this one. If it's career ending I can't imagine them not having to pay a nearly billion dollar judgment including their own lawyers and costs to defend self. Wait until discovery process, when we learn the fake crying GM was using his PR apparatus to whip up the media and fans to pressure KD to return.
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Re: Bob Meyer's (warriors president of bb operations) interview on status of KD's injury 

Post#509 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:22 am

nfmos wrote:You guys are so ridiculous and petty and im sure some are jealous and just try to hate on anything related to the Warriors.

And still talking crap about the light years comment when we have made 5 finals in a row, won 3 out of the last 4 championships, have created a team that everyone seems to say is so good it destroyed competition and was unfair for the league. And then our ownership is privately funding a billion dollar arena? Who else has done those things?

And Bob Meyers? This guy is a good guy, a former agent who the players love. If you hear him talk you realize the humanity this guy has, and honestly so much of our team stresses how real life is more important that basketball, Kerr, Curry, Meyers, Klay, etc..

Meyers was there for Kerr when he was fighting through his back injury and always talked about his health before his coaching. This guy organizes a yearly trip to San Quentin prison to play basketball against the inmates and remind them people havent forgotten about them even with their histories. Even brought the championship trophy there.

This guy is a good guy, but people cant let go of rivalries and pettiness for even a minute to even see that. Pretty pathetic.


yikes, this sounds like the TO "thats my quarterback" rant
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#510 » by CycklopsGT » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:22 am

Harden2Dwight wrote:
CycklopsGT wrote:Apparently the recovery time for this is 6 months.


That would be hard to believe. Recovery time for this kind of injury really varies on the tear itself and the athlete. It can easily be a 10-12 month injury.

I just googled it and got 6 months from multiple sources.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#511 » by sikma42 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:23 am

Is there version that the doctors were wrong? Because that's what Steve Kerr was heard saying after the injury...

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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#512 » by queridiculo » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:23 am

You typically don't even need a MRI to confirm an achilles tear. At this point the Warriors should very well know where Durant is at, the degree of the rupture is probably the only thing that's left to determine.
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#513 » by LipSkinMatter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:23 am

Guest202 wrote:There's not going to be anyone left in the FO or a medical license left near the team once the lawyers come in on this one. If it's career ending I can't imagine them not having to pay a nearly billion dollar judgment including their own lawyers and costs to defend self. Wait until discovery process, when we learn the fake crying GM was using his PR apparatus to whip up the media and fans to pressure KD to return.


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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#514 » by sarcasma » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:23 am

With all due respect, why is everyone acting like Durant is going to die? Hes only 30. Havent numerous athletes come back from this injury? Durant has lived a fantastic life, and is only 30, hes not dying. Hes going to play ball and continue his career.
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Re: Durant -- achilles injury 

Post#515 » by lonzo_pelota » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:23 am

clyde21 wrote:Bob Myers literally crying on the podium right now



wonder if he's crying for KD or the GS franchise's reputation on dealing with seriously injured players
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Re: Bob Meyer's (warriors president of bb operations) interview on status of KD's injury 

Post#516 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 am

nfmos wrote:You guys are so ridiculous and petty and im sure some are jealous and just try to hate on anything related to the Warriors.

And still talking crap about the light years comment when we have made 5 finals in a row, won 3 out of the last 4 championships, have created a team that everyone seems to say is so good it destroyed competition and was unfair for the league. And then our ownership is privately funding a billion dollar arena? Who else has done those things?

And Bob Meyers? This guy is a good guy, a former agent who the players love. If you hear him talk you realize the humanity this guy has, and honestly so much of our team stresses how real life is more important that basketball, Kerr, Curry, Meyers, Klay, etc..

Meyers was there for Kerr when he was fighting through his back injury and always talked about his health before his coaching. This guy organizes a yearly trip to San Quentin prison to play basketball against the inmates and remind them people havent forgotten about them even with their histories. Even brought the championship trophy there.

This guy is a good guy, but people cant let go of rivalries and pettiness for even a minute to even see that. Pretty pathetic.


Just because someones/organization worldview aligns with yours doesn't make them good people and it's easy to say the right thing because words don't cost you anything.

It's much harder to DO the right thing when you are down 3-1 in a championship game and when doing so might lose you the championship. Does anyone think had the series been tied or the Warriors ahead he would have played?

Meyers clearly threw out an injured Looney. He rushed back Cousins. He rushed back Durant. He is not a good person and is messing with these guys careers.
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#517 » by Guest202 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:25 am

sarcasma wrote:With all due respect, why is everyone acting like Durant is going to die? Hes only 30. Havent numerous athletes come back from this injury? Durant has lived a fantastic life, and is only 30, hes not dieing. Hes going to play ball and continue his career.


Literally zero. He'll go from top 3 in the world...to maybe top 50?
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Re: Bob Meyer's (warriors president of bb operations) interview on status of KD's injury 

Post#518 » by Hook_Em » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:26 am

Do they overcompensate by holding out Boogie now?
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#519 » by GoGreen » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:26 am

Lordy. Sad, sad stuff. Will likely not be the same when he returns, and he's already 30. His prime looks to be over. Hoping he makes a comeback, though. I didn't like his decision to go to GS, but he seems like a good man nonetheless.
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Re: Shelburne: Warriors expect MRI to Confirm Torn Right Achilles Tendon for KD 

Post#520 » by Drygon » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:27 am

Hroz wrote:To be honest Durant needs to stop caring about what the eff others say about him.

You see that with Kawhi he wouldn't be bullied/pressured into playing. He has guys like Uncle Dennis looking out for him.

The idea some corporate organisation has your best interests at heart is ridiculous. They have the best interest of their share holders at heart.


Bad comparison.

Greg Popovich & Spurs never wanted to force Kawhi playing through his injury...

If anything, they wanted Kawhi to announce that he's sitting out for an entire season.

On more than one occasion, Popovich begged Leonard to let him announce to the media that the forward would be forced to sit out the season due to his injury, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. Believing he'd eventually return, Leonard declined each time, leaving Popovich to field queries from the media that he couldn't definitively answer. Popovich simply didn't know.

Leonard left the team on two occasions last season to rehab in New York with members of the Spurs rehabilitation staff in tow to work in concert with the forward's outside medical personnel, utilizing its rehab program.

The Spurs still believed the relationship was worth salvaging, and Popovich traveled to Southern California ahead of the NBA draft to meet with Leonard as a first step toward reconciliation.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24128459/without-kawhi-leonard-san-antonio-spurs-fast-forward-uncertain-future-nba

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