Curry has dominated this era, but would get crushed in the 90's

[ScrantonBulls]

And the quote he used is from 2006, before Curry even entered the league.

Exactly.

The NBA changed the rules to open up scoring years before Curry got here.

Because offenses cratered in the 90s.

First, you asked people to listen to old people's quotes to convince them that Curry couldn't play in the 90s. Yet you brought up a 20-year-old quote before Curry entered the league.

Second, that quote/article was made after 2005-2006 season. It mentioned how the rule change opened up the scoring, yet it's more toward deadball era of 00's.

2005-2006: 97.0 pts / 45.4% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 53.6% TS. The worse scoring yeas in 90's (other than lockout year) were

Only two years in 90's (other than the lockout era) had worse scoring average.

97: 96.9 pts / 45.5% FG /36.0% 3pts / 53.6% TS
98: 95.6 pts / 45.0% FG / 34.6% 3pts / 52.4% TS

No scoring was opened up years before Curry got here. The rule change didn't really change the scoring, shooting %, or accuracy. As a matter of fact, until Curry won his first championship and MVP, the scoring and shooting % remained pretty much the same. The scoring really didn't jump til 18-19 when Curry already won two MVPs and three championships.

07: 98.7 pts / 45.8% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 54.1% TS
08: 99.9 pts / 45.7% FG / 36.2% 3pts / 54.0% TS
09: 100 pts / 45.9% FG / 36.7% 3pts / 54.4% TS
10: 100.4 pts / 46.1% FG / 35.5% 3pts / 54.3% TS
11: 99.6 pts / 45.9% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 54.1% TS
12: 96.3 pts / 44.8% FG / 34.9% 3pts / 52.7% TS (Lockout season)
13: 98.1 pts / 45.3% FG / 35.9% 3pts / 53.5% TS
14: 101 pts / 45.4% FG / 36.0% 3pts / 54.1% TS
15: 100 pts / 44.9% FG / 35.0% 3pts / 53.4% TS (Curry's first MVP/championship)
16: 102.7 pts / 45.2% FG / 35.4% 3pts / 54.1% TS
17: 105.6 pts / 45.7% FG / 36.2% 3pts / 55.2% TS
18: 106.3 pts / 46.0% FG / 36.2% 3pts / 55.6% TS
19: 111.2 pts / 46.1% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 56.0% TS

24: 114.2 pts / 47.4% FG / 36.6% 3pts / 58.0% TS

But 90's defense was tougher? Till 95, the league average was higher than Curry's first MVP/champion season.

90: 107.0 pts / 47.4% FG / 32.0% 3pts / 53.7% TS
91: 106.3 pts / 47.2% FG / 33.1% 3pts / 53.4% TS
92: 105.5 pts / 47.3% FG / 33.6% 3pts / 53.1% TS
93: 105.3 pts / 46.6% FG / 33.3% 3pts / 53.6% TS
94: 101.5 pts / 46.6% FG / 35.9% 3pts / 52.8% TS
95: 101.4 pts / 46.2% FG / 36.7% 3pts / 54.3% TS
96: 99.5 pts / 45.5% FG / 36.0% 3pts/ 53.6% TS

The mystical defense of 90's really didn't exist, and many people confuse the deadball era of 00's as 90's era. Curry would be dominating 90's.

Get out of here with these statistics bro. Anybody can find stats to support their argument. You can't simply look at a bunch of numbers on a screen and try to tell me that the 90s wasn't a knock down, drag out slugest. It absolutely was. You needed to BE THERE and watch the games. It was like freaking American Gladiator out there.

Sorry, but a bunch of statistics won't convince me that it wasn't physical. I watched the game. It most certainly was.

I got your back Jamaaliver

[tsherkin]

So true...my favorite player in that era was Kevin Johnson. He slashing and dunking in every game, and he was not much more than 6'1" and 190 lbs. He does have a funny story of Barkley hip checking him in to the first row, but that was an intentional hack by chuck to avoid being dunked on by KJ. There were so many smaller PGs that excelled in that era (KJ, Isiah, Price, Cheeks, Stockton, Hardaway) to accept the premise that it was so rough that current star players would not have excelled then as well.

KJ was wild, man. Remarkable athlete. Super fun to watch.

And yeah, like you said, Isiah, Mo Cheeks, Stockton... Hell, BJ Armstrong was an All-Star one year, right? Hersey Hawkins. I mean, SPUDD WEBB and Muggsy Bogues were able to play.

Steph would be fine.

[dhsilv2]

So true...my favorite player in that era was Kevin Johnson. He slashing and dunking in every game, and he was not much more than 6'1" and 190 lbs. He does have a funny story of Barkley hip checking him in to the first row, but that was an intentional hack by chuck to avoid being dunked on by KJ. There were so many smaller PGs that excelled in that era (KJ, Isiah, Price, Cheeks, Stockton, Hardaway) to accept the premise that it was so rough that current star players would not have excelled then as well.

KJ was wild, man. Remarkable athlete. Super fun to watch.

And yeah, like you said, Isiah, Mo Cheeks, Stockton... Hell, BJ Armstrong was an All-Star one year, right? Hersey Hawkins. I mean, SPUDD WEBB and Muggsy Bogues were able to play.

Steph would be fine.

Well sure but those guys were passers. What about shooters? It was such a tough era with guys inside your jersey everytime you shot. Nobody could off ball score with a jumper.

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Curry would average 250 points per game in the 1990s

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yet would get crushed in the 90s

[MrBigShot]

It would be disgusting to watch. 40ppg on 50/45/90

[LakerLegend]

Y'all do realize that there was a player named Wardell Stephen Curry who played in the 90s, wasn't as good or as physical as the current Wardell Stephen Curry, and he did not get crushed, right?

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Steph would have absolutely dominated. As he does today.

Dell was a roleplayer.

[LakerLegend]

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So much skill in this era..

[Capn'O]

Y'all do realize that there was a player named Wardell Stephen Curry who played in the 90s, wasn't as good or as physical as the current Wardell Stephen Curry, and he did not get crushed, right?

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Steph would have absolutely dominated. As he does today.

Dell was a roleplayer.

So the slant here is that they played defense like they were allergic to it against role players but superdooper hard against stars? I'm not subscribing to that newsletter.

[LakerLegend]

Y'all do realize that there was a player named Wardell Stephen Curry who played in the 90s, wasn't as good or as physical as the current Wardell Stephen Curry, and he did not get crushed, right?

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Steph would have absolutely dominated. As he does today.

Dell was a roleplayer.

So the slant here is that they played defense like they were allergic to it against role players but superdooper hard against stars? I'm not subscribing to that newsletter.

Not sure what point your trying to make.

You brought up Dell as an analog to Curry, and I pointed out that Dell was a roleplayer in that era. My point in this thread is that Curry wouldn't be as good back then. Curry is a superstar and historical level player in this era.

You bringing up a roleplayer as an analog only reinforces my point.

[ShootersShoot]

Why are people comparing steph to regular shooters lol? He is a transcendent one and that would not just disappear in another era. You are basically saying he would be a regular shooter in the 90s which the premise is absolutely stupid

[LakerLegend]

Why are people comparing steph to regular shooters lol? He is a transcendent one and that would not just disappear in another era. You are basically saying he would be a regular shooter in the 90s which the premise is absolutely stupid

Actually no one is saying he would be a regular shooter. We're saying he would be worse. Those aren't the same.

[robbie84]

what an awful, ignorant take lol.

[Lenneth]

Exactly.

The NBA changed the rules to open up scoring years before Curry got here.

Because offenses cratered in the 90s.

First, you asked people to listen to old people's quotes to convince them that Curry couldn't play in the 90s. Yet you brought up a 20-year-old quote before Curry entered the league.

Second, that quote/article was made after 2005-2006 season. It mentioned how the rule change opened up the scoring, yet it's more toward deadball era of 00's.

2005-2006: 97.0 pts / 45.4% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 53.6% TS. The worse scoring yeas in 90's (other than lockout year) were

Only two years in 90's (other than the lockout era) had worse scoring average.

97: 96.9 pts / 45.5% FG /36.0% 3pts / 53.6% TS
98: 95.6 pts / 45.0% FG / 34.6% 3pts / 52.4% TS

No scoring was opened up years before Curry got here. The rule change didn't really change the scoring, shooting %, or accuracy. As a matter of fact, until Curry won his first championship and MVP, the scoring and shooting % remained pretty much the same. The scoring really didn't jump til 18-19 when Curry already won two MVPs and three championships.

07: 98.7 pts / 45.8% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 54.1% TS
08: 99.9 pts / 45.7% FG / 36.2% 3pts / 54.0% TS
09: 100 pts / 45.9% FG / 36.7% 3pts / 54.4% TS
10: 100.4 pts / 46.1% FG / 35.5% 3pts / 54.3% TS
11: 99.6 pts / 45.9% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 54.1% TS
12: 96.3 pts / 44.8% FG / 34.9% 3pts / 52.7% TS (Lockout season)
13: 98.1 pts / 45.3% FG / 35.9% 3pts / 53.5% TS
14: 101 pts / 45.4% FG / 36.0% 3pts / 54.1% TS
15: 100 pts / 44.9% FG / 35.0% 3pts / 53.4% TS (Curry's first MVP/championship)
16: 102.7 pts / 45.2% FG / 35.4% 3pts / 54.1% TS
17: 105.6 pts / 45.7% FG / 36.2% 3pts / 55.2% TS
18: 106.3 pts / 46.0% FG / 36.2% 3pts / 55.6% TS
19: 111.2 pts / 46.1% FG / 35.8% 3pts / 56.0% TS

24: 114.2 pts / 47.4% FG / 36.6% 3pts / 58.0% TS

But 90's defense was tougher? Till 95, the league average was higher than Curry's first MVP/champion season.

90: 107.0 pts / 47.4% FG / 32.0% 3pts / 53.7% TS
91: 106.3 pts / 47.2% FG / 33.1% 3pts / 53.4% TS
92: 105.5 pts / 47.3% FG / 33.6% 3pts / 53.1% TS
93: 105.3 pts / 46.6% FG / 33.3% 3pts / 53.6% TS
94: 101.5 pts / 46.6% FG / 35.9% 3pts / 52.8% TS
95: 101.4 pts / 46.2% FG / 36.7% 3pts / 54.3% TS
96: 99.5 pts / 45.5% FG / 36.0% 3pts/ 53.6% TS

The mystical defense of 90's really didn't exist, and many people confuse the deadball era of 00's as 90's era. Curry would be dominating 90's.

Get out of here with these statistics bro. Anybody can find stats to support their argument. You can't simply look at a bunch of numbers on a screen and try to tell me that the 90s wasn't a knock down, drag out slugest. It absolutely was. You needed to BE THERE and watch the games. It was like freaking American Gladiator out there.

Sorry, but a bunch of statistics won't convince me that it wasn't physical. I watched the game. It most certainly was.

I got your back Jamaaliver

So you are agreeing that Curry would be a role player like Dell Curry, or at best some All-Stars appearance in the 90's?

[Whateva]

Stop glorifying the 90s, no he wouldn't get crushed

[prophet_of_rage]

Reggie Miller is probably a great example of Curry being absolutely fine in the 90's.

great shooting works in every era

Reggie Miller was 6'8". Coaches were far more apt to put up with defensive liabilities on the wing than they were with guards. Steph would either have been Steve Kerr if he was playing off-ball or if he was allowed to play PG maybe Mark Price. That's the best case scenario. Mark Price was a damn good basketball player but that's a far cry from the potential top 10-15 player Steph ended up because he played in this era.

Why wouldn't Steph be a spuped up Isiah Thomas? Point guard leader with defenders behind him. Or Allen Iverson whom he is bigger and better than and crushed the 90s.



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[prophet_of_rage]

It was "notorious" because it was so uncommon and unusual at the time.

You don't know what you're talking about. The NBA literally changed the Flagrant Foul Rules in the early 1990s to discourage all the excessively hard fouls.

NBA gets tough on flagrant fouls

Rod Thorn, vice president of operations for the NBA:

"A hard, but not flagrant, foul will be treated like a breakaway foul, with the opposing team being given two foul shots plus possession of the ball.


'Hopefully we will have fewer of these ridiculous fouls, with players not even caring whether they hurt somebody or not,' he said. 'It's just getting too rough."

Archived Article from September of 1990

To protect Michael from the Pistons.

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[prophet_of_rage]

Dell was a roleplayer.

So the slant here is that they played defense like they were allergic to it against role players but superdooper hard against stars? I'm not subscribing to that newsletter.

Not sure what point your trying to make.

You brought up Dell as an analog to Curry, and I pointed out that Dell was a roleplayer in that era. My point in this thread is that Curry wouldn't be as good back then. Curry is a superstar and historical level player in this era.

You bringing up a roleplayer as an analog only reinforces my point.

His point is that Dell is a worse player than his son and did not get physically crushed. Steph, a better athlete who is physically bigger, stronger, more athletic, better shooter and better handling would likewise be able to handle the physicality.

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[Raps in 4]

what an awful, ignorant take lol.

You just don't remember how tough the 90s were. If 90s rules were allowed today, guys would have to wear protective equipment. It was basically the NFL. Every team had 5-10 All-NBA defenders on their roster.

You put a guy like Jordan into the league today, and he easily averages 40+ PPG on 70%+ TS with an EPM of +15.

[WarriorGM]

what an awful, ignorant take lol.

You just don't remember how tough the 90s were. If 90s rules were allowed today, guys would have to wear protective equipment. It was basically the NFL. Every team had 5-10 All-NBA defenders on their roster.

You put a guy like Jordan into the league today, and he easily averages 40+ PPG on 70%+ TS with an EPM of +15.

True I don't remember there were 100-200 All-NBA slots back in the day. So many great players! Nowadays we only have 15 All-NBA selections. I guess that proves there must be so many fewer quality players today right?