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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#521 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:35 pm

13th Man wrote:
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BflI wrote:MaxRider, you might be missing the point.

The point is how the FO handled the situation. Was Lin informed? what was the communication? JL7 currently has brand value which is much more than just jersey numbers. The Rocket's PR team got careless this time, especially given the bad history between Melo and Lin

Im sure if the FO reached out to Lin before and they talked it out it would've been a non issue.

We are talking about a gigantic billboard in from of Toyota Center here, not some book size poster or some sales pitch brochure.

already talk about that before
Rockets said they did and Lin's agent said they didn't
you just pick whoever you want to believe
i believe they don't have to contact Lin if they don't want to
#7 doesn't belong to Jeremy Lin
if it is #34, #22, #23, #24, #45 then they should contact the owner of those numbers because those are retired
#11 is as good as retired
but #7 is not


The consensus amongst most seem to be that it's a dick move on the Rockets behalf regardless of whether they've done it in the past or not. Your choice to side with what's perceived as classless.

no
i believe it is not that big of a deal
for christ sake it's just a number
not like those crossed lin name out with anthony
no one brought this up when they did it to scola and beverley
then suddenly it involved jeremy lin
oh no
it's a big deal
it's all over the news
26 pages and counting
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#522 » by tbytc » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:36 pm

MaxRider wrote:
tbytc wrote:
MaxRider wrote:already talk about that before
Rockets said they did and Lin's agent said they didn't
you just pick whoever you want to believe
i believe they don't have to contact Lin if they don't want to
#7 doesn't belong to Jeremy Lin
if it is #34, #22, #23, #34, #45 then they should contact the owner of those numbers because those are retired
#11 is as good as retired
but #7 is not

I don't want to question about your iq, but you seriously think it is Lin's agent lying?
#7 does belong to lin as long as he is still on the team. It is just classless act by Morey.

both can be lying
agent is always standing on his client side
front office is always standing on the team side
both can't be trusted
you just pick whoever you like
and forgot how many time i'm saying this it's just a photoshop picture
even if rockets handed him a #7 jersey with anthony name on the back
that doesn't mean he will be wearing #7 next season

#7 doesn't belong to jeremy lin
the team can tell you you can't have that number

lol, I really can't communicate with you.
Maybe that's what it take to support Harden/McHale
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#523 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:36 pm

Based Schroeder wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
BflI wrote:MaxRider, you might be missing the point.

The point is how the FO handled the situation. Was Lin informed? what was the communication? JL7 currently has brand value which is much more than just jersey numbers. The Rocket's PR team got careless this time, especially given the bad history between Melo and Lin

Im sure if the FO reached out to Lin before and they talked it out it would've been a non issue.

We are talking about a gigantic billboard in from of Toyota Center here, not some book size poster or some sales pitch brochure.

already talk about that before
Rockets said they did and Lin's agent said they didn't
you just pick whoever you want to believe
i believe they don't have to contact Lin if they don't want to
#7 doesn't belong to Jeremy Lin
if it is #34, #22, #23, #24, #45 then they should contact the owner of those numbers because those are retired
#11 is as good as retired
but #7 is not

Err... as long as Lin is a rocket, it technically is.

technically speaking asik is still a rocket
i guess asik doesn't use twitter

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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#524 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:37 pm

tbytc wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
tbytc wrote:I don't want to question about your iq, but you seriously think it is Lin's agent lying?
#7 does belong to lin as long as he is still on the team. It is just classless act by Morey.

both can be lying
agent is always standing on his client side
front office is always standing on the team side
both can't be trusted
you just pick whoever you like
and forgot how many time i'm saying this it's just a photoshop picture
even if rockets handed him a #7 jersey with anthony name on the back
that doesn't mean he will be wearing #7 next season

#7 doesn't belong to jeremy lin
the team can tell you you can't have that number

lol, I really can't communicate with you.
Maybe that's what it take to support Harden/McHale

visit the rockets board more
i'm the first one against trading for harden and i'm still the first one will raise my hand for trading him away
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#525 » by bklynstoops » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:39 pm

man, are you guys still arguing this? Some of you need to know when you've won and walk away. You're arguing with a guy who's rehashing stuff that was squashed 10 pages ago.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#526 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:40 pm

bklynstoops wrote:man, are you guys still arguing this? Some of you need to know when you've won and walk away. You're arguing with a guy who's rehashing stuff that was squashed 10 pages ago.

because not everyone read all of them
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#527 » by bklynstoops » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:41 pm

MaxRider wrote:
bklynstoops wrote:man, are you guys still arguing this? Some of you need to know when you've won and walk away. You're arguing with a guy who's rehashing stuff that was squashed 10 pages ago.

because not everyone read all of them


:lol: :lol: :lol: i'm talking about you.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#528 » by Ice Trae » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:41 pm

MaxRider wrote:
Based Schroeder wrote:
MaxRider wrote:already talk about that before
Rockets said they did and Lin's agent said they didn't
you just pick whoever you want to believe
i believe they don't have to contact Lin if they don't want to
#7 doesn't belong to Jeremy Lin
if it is #34, #22, #23, #24, #45 then they should contact the owner of those numbers because those are retired
#11 is as good as retired
but #7 is not

Err... as long as Lin is a rocket, it technically is.

technically speaking asik is still a rocket
i guess asik doesn't use twitter

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Um Asik has a verbal agreement with New Orleans, does he not?
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#529 » by 13th Man » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:42 pm

We are going in full circles with the Beverley/Scola/Asik scenarios which are clearly not the same.

Anyhow, choose to believe what you want to believe, it's your right. Just pointing out the fact that 80% of the people in the GENERAL board (not some Rockets board) think that this was a classless move. That should give you some indication of public perception....or maybe not....
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#530 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:44 pm

Based Schroeder wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
Based Schroeder wrote:Err... as long as Lin is a rocket, it technically is.

technically speaking asik is still a rocket
i guess asik doesn't use twitter

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Um Asik has a verbal agreement with New Orleans, does he not?

rockets doesn't need asik agreement to trade him away (same for lin)
they don't have trade kicker clause in their contract
rockets and pelicans agreed on the trade but still working on paperwork
pelicans still need to clear cap space to absorb asik contract
according to source rockets also has a deal in place to trade lin away
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#531 » by tbytc » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:45 pm

bklynstoops wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
bklynstoops wrote:man, are you guys still arguing this? Some of you need to know when you've won and walk away. You're arguing with a guy who's rehashing stuff that was squashed 10 pages ago.

because not everyone read all of them


:lol: :lol: :lol: i'm talking about you.

lol, that's what i thought, and then I saw his reply.
I was like Seriously?
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#532 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 7:46 pm

tbytc wrote:
bklynstoops wrote:
MaxRider wrote:because not everyone read all of them


:lol: :lol: :lol: i'm talking about you.

lol, that's what i thought, and then I saw his reply.
I was like Seriously?

yes seriously like you read all of them :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#533 » by BflI » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:30 pm

MaxRider wrote:
13th Man wrote:
MaxRider wrote:already talk about that before
Rockets said they did and Lin's agent said they didn't
you just pick whoever you want to believe
i believe they don't have to contact Lin if they don't want to
#7 doesn't belong to Jeremy Lin
if it is #34, #22, #23, #24, #45 then they should contact the owner of those numbers because those are retired
#11 is as good as retired
but #7 is not


The consensus amongst most seem to be that it's a dick move on the Rockets behalf regardless of whether they've done it in the past or not. Your choice to side with what's perceived as classless.

no
i believe it is not that big of a deal
for christ sake it's just a number
not like those crossed lin name out with anthony
no one brought this up when they did it to scola and beverley
then suddenly it involved jeremy lin
oh no
it's a big deal
it's all over the news
26 pages and counting


Dude you still missed the point, is that just a number, its the organization's demeanor and the way they conduct business. Its the fact that they cut him once, and signed him again with promises that he will be the franchise player only to be an afterthought while chasing Harden and Howard. The undertone is that it implies the Rocket's culture of revolving doors and chasing big stars is on full display and they make sure everyone knows they are getting rid of Lin, whom you promised to be your franchise player 2 years ago. Further more Melo was the one who pushed Lin outa NY and made some comments regarding his contract, now he came to Htown piss on his face wearing his jersey. Yea you can say its all business and all, which is true, but being a bit more careful and considerate will go a long way, especially in the future if you want to attract young talents
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#534 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:34 pm

team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#535 » by BflI » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:46 pm

MaxRider wrote:team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents


How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#536 » by tbytc » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:55 pm

BflI wrote:
MaxRider wrote:team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents


How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

Just ingore that guy.
That guy has no logic at all, he just keeps repeating lin sucks, overpaid, doesn't deserve anything, therefore houston can treat him whatever they want.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#537 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 8:57 pm

BflI wrote:
MaxRider wrote:team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents


How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

he lost his starting job
is that doing his job right?
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#538 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:01 pm

tbytc wrote:
BflI wrote:
MaxRider wrote:team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents


How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

Just ingore that guy.
That guy has no logic at all, he just keeps repeating lin sucks, overpaid, doesn't deserve anything, therefore houston can treat him whatever they want.

scola is a starter
did rockets treat him any different than a backup pg?
they had a deal trading him away
but he return and play like a pro
they even amnesty him
does it hurt his feeling?
maybe
but he doesn't do it on twitter
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#539 » by BflI » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:13 pm

MaxRider wrote:
BflI wrote:
MaxRider wrote:team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents


How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

he lost his starting job
is that doing his job right?


Comon MaxRider you are better than that.

You and I both know the reason Lin lost his spot is because he does not fit with Harden, that is not the job when he first signed up to do.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#540 » by hayden » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:17 pm

MaxRider wrote:
BflI wrote:
MaxRider wrote:team promise you is one thing, you can't do the job is another thing
nobody is going to treat you like a king when you didn't do your job right

as long as the money is right
you can always sign young talents


How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

he lost his starting job
is that doing his job right?


he lost his starting job because of Harden and because McHale dislikes playmaking PGs (lol). but that's besides the point.

what are you really arguing now anyway? that Lin shouldn't have tweeted anything because you don't think it was a big deal? that's fine, that's your opinion, but you are in a minority. so, at least try and understand why people think otherwise and why people think it's disrespectful. Lin's tweet is actually quite benign and i'm sure he felt some pressure to respond to everyone pointing out those photos of Melo to him.
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