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Re: Rudy Gobert: Future DPOY 

Post#521 » by atlantabbq99 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:31 am

I never bought into the hype. From the start i thought that Gobert could become a Javel McGee type of player but not a DPOY kind of player and certainly not ever an all star. Fans will get very depressed if they expect Gobert to be a poor man's Mutombo.

Gobert is a low draft pick but has still be very disappointing. The Jazz interior defense has just looked so bad, one of the worst in the league. I just watched the Jazz/Thunder game and Gobert and Favor's defense was just head shaking bad and just frustrating to watch.
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Post#522 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:06 am

Who cares about his defense, he leaves his team 5v4 on offense everytime hes in the game, he must be worst offensive player in the league, he cant even stay in the game with that kind of offense.
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Post#523 » by HawaiianJazzFan » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:07 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:I never bought into the hype. From the start i thought that Gobert could become a Javel McGee type of player but not a DPOY kind of player and certainly not ever an all star. Fans will get very depressed if they expect Gobert to be a poor man's Mutombo.

Gobert is a low draft pick but has still be very disappointing. The Jazz interior defense has just looked so bad, one of the worst in the league. I just watched the Jazz/Thunder game and Gobert and Favor's defense was just head shaking bad and just frustrating to watch.



Watch more than one game man. Gobert is still the best rim protector statistically in the league 41% allowed at the rim. He's 7th in Defensive RPM, number two behind Duncan in defensive plus/minus, the 8th best rebounder. Favors and Gobert are the best interior defenders as a tandem outside of Draymond and Bogut. Seriously either watch more than one game or bring in some stats to back your claims. It was the last game on a road trip back to back after just winning our biggest game of the year. Seriously.
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Post#524 » by HawaiianJazzFan » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:09 am

freestyler34 wrote:Who cares about his defense, he leaves his team 5v4 on offense everytime hes in the game, he must be worst offensive player in the league, he cant even stay in the game with that kind of offense.


Biggest Kanter homer on the site. Unlike Kanter who truly is maybe the worst defensive center in the history of basketball, Rudy can at the very least offensive rebound and pass. Kanter can't do anything defensively.
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Post#525 » by HawaiianJazzFan » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:17 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:I never bought into the hype. From the start i thought that Gobert could become a Javel McGee type of player but not a DPOY kind of player and certainly not ever an all star. Fans will get very depressed if they expect Gobert to be a poor man's Mutombo.

Gobert is a low draft pick but has still be very disappointing. The Jazz interior defense has just looked so bad, one of the worst in the league. I just watched the Jazz/Thunder game and Gobert and Favor's defense was just head shaking bad and just frustrating to watch.


How can you even judge Gobert tonight he got three fouls in like 9 minutes (he doesn't struggle with foul trouble, but tonight he did)



Javale mcgee has never been close to what Gobert has done in any season as a rim protector... NOT EVEN CLOSE. The only player that has been close to what Gobert did last year (sub 40%) is Hibbert of old. Gobert has defended the rim a little worse this year but it is still good for best in the league. Also, Mcgee HAS NEVER been as good a rebounder as Rudy has his first two years getting minutes. Rudy was top 5 last year and top 8 this year. ALSO this is huge. Rudy averages around 3 fouls per 36 minutes there were some seasons Mcgee averaged over 7 fouls per 36 minutes. Get your weak statements out of here.
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Post#526 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:18 am

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freestyler34 wrote:Who cares about his defense, he leaves his team 5v4 on offense everytime hes in the game, he must be worst offensive player in the league, he cant even stay in the game with that kind of offense.


Biggest Kanter homer on the site. Unlike Kanter who truly is maybe the worst defensive center in the history of basketball, Rudy can at the very least offensive rebound and pass. Kanter can't do anything defensively.


Nice to see u have no counter argument about Rudy's offense and had to brinng up Kanter :lol: , wanna tell me why Rudy is worst player on the jazz and they had to bench him to win games ? Yes hes a game changer like you guys said last season, but i think he doesnt change it in favor of jazz :lol: :lol:
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Post#527 » by bondom34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:21 am

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HawaiianJazzFan wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:Who cares about his defense, he leaves his team 5v4 on offense everytime hes in the game, he must be worst offensive player in the league, he cant even stay in the game with that kind of offense.


Biggest Kanter homer on the site. Unlike Kanter who truly is maybe the worst defensive center in the history of basketball, Rudy can at the very least offensive rebound and pass. Kanter can't do anything defensively.


Nice to see u have no counter argument about Rudy's offense and had to brinng up Kanter :lol: , wanna tell me why Rudy is worst player on the jazz and they had to bench him to win games ? Yes hes a game changer like you guys said last season, but i think he doesnt change it in favor of jazz :lol: :lol:

Gobert is not the worst player on that team. And I'd trade Kanter for him before you could finish asking, any team would.
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Post#528 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:31 am

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HawaiianJazzFan wrote:
Biggest Kanter homer on the site. Unlike Kanter who truly is maybe the worst defensive center in the history of basketball, Rudy can at the very least offensive rebound and pass. Kanter can't do anything defensively.


Nice to see u have no counter argument about Rudy's offense and had to brinng up Kanter :lol: , wanna tell me why Rudy is worst player on the jazz and they had to bench him to win games ? Yes hes a game changer like you guys said last season, but i think he doesnt change it in favor of jazz :lol: :lol:

Gobert is not the worst player on that team. And I'd trade Kanter for him before you could finish asking, any team would.


Almost every thunder fans happy with what Kanter doing for thunder in limited minutes( go check other thunder forums), except 2-3 ppl on the thunders realgm forum prolly bcuz they are big time Adams homers or they are also Australian
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Post#529 » by bondom34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:40 am

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freestyler34 wrote:
Nice to see u have no counter argument about Rudy's offense and had to brinng up Kanter :lol: , wanna tell me why Rudy is worst player on the jazz and they had to bench him to win games ? Yes hes a game changer like you guys said last season, but i think he doesnt change it in favor of jazz :lol: :lol:

Gobert is not the worst player on that team. And I'd trade Kanter for him before you could finish asking, any team would.


Almost every thunder fans happy with what Kanter doing for thunder in limited minutes( go check other thunder forums), except 2-3 ppl on the thunders realgm forum prolly bcuz they are big time Adams homers or they are also Australian

Actually, not really. Because people see points and assume he's good, when the team is better when he's on the bench. Here and WTLC both agree he's a negative, and likely to be traded. Adams is viewed more highly by the actual franchise, which is what really matters. I'm on a bunch of sites, and that's an agreement. Thunderfans loves him, but they think Waiters is good too.
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Post#530 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:59 am

bondom34 wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:Gobert is not the worst player on that team. And I'd trade Kanter for him before you could finish asking, any team would.


Almost every thunder fans happy with what Kanter doing for thunder in limited minutes( go check other thunder forums), except 2-3 ppl on the thunders realgm forum prolly bcuz they are big time Adams homers or they are also Australian

Actually, not really. Because people see points and assume he's good, when the team is better when he's on the bench. Here and WTLC both agree he's a negative, and likely to be traded. Adams is viewed more highly by the actual franchise, which is what really matters. I'm on a bunch of sites, and that's an agreement. Thunderfans loves him, but they think Waiters is good too.


Both Thunderfans and on reddit ppl happy with him, except realgm where only 2-3 active ppl on the thunders forum,nobody cares about one persons opinion just bcuz you hate him it doesnt mean everybody should, anyway this is about Gobert stay on the topic
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Post#531 » by bondom34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:07 am

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Almost every thunder fans happy with what Kanter doing for thunder in limited minutes( go check other thunder forums), except 2-3 ppl on the thunders realgm forum prolly bcuz they are big time Adams homers or they are also Australian

Actually, not really. Because people see points and assume he's good, when the team is better when he's on the bench. Here and WTLC both agree he's a negative, and likely to be traded. Adams is viewed more highly by the actual franchise, which is what really matters. I'm on a bunch of sites, and that's an agreement. Thunderfans loves him, but they think Waiters is good too.


Both Thunderfans and on reddit ppl happy with him, except realgm where only 2-3 active ppl on the thunders forum,nobody cares about one persons opinion just bcuz you hate him it doesnt mean everybody should, anyway this is about Gobert stay on the topic

You just named the 2 biggest circlejerks out there, both places that still think Dion Waiters is a good player. And interestingly he's terrible (there's a bit of bias there).

And on topic, Gobert is fantastic (and a massively better player than Kanter).
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Post#532 » by Phreak50 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:18 am

This is the first year I've watched a heap of full Jazz games and have been surprised 1. that Gobert isn't very athletic, certainly nowhere close to the real athletic big men of the game and 2. has offense worse than guys like Mutombo.

I'd still take him in a heart beat over Kanter though for the record.
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Post#533 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:23 am

bondom34 wrote:
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bondom34 wrote:Actually, not really. Because people see points and assume he's good, when the team is better when he's on the bench. Here and WTLC both agree he's a negative, and likely to be traded. Adams is viewed more highly by the actual franchise, which is what really matters. I'm on a bunch of sites, and that's an agreement. Thunderfans loves him, but they think Waiters is good too.


Both Thunderfans and on reddit ppl happy with him, except realgm where only 2-3 active ppl on the thunders forum,nobody cares about one persons opinion just bcuz you hate him it doesnt mean everybody should, anyway this is about Gobert stay on the topic

You just named the 2 biggest circlejerks out there, both places that still think Dion Waiters is a good player. And interestingly he's terrible (there's a bit of bias there).

And on topic, Gobert is fantastic (and a massively better player than Kanter).


OKay i got it majority of ppl are circlejerks except realgm every other thunder forums are circlejerks, actually except the 2-3 ppl on realgm thunder forums, every other thunder fan is a jerk i got you now, thanks.

And most of the ppl on those sites thinks Waiters is a bad player they were even worried about that he was coming back,

And on topic,Utah cant play Gobert bcuz they are losing bcuz of him, 5v4 offense seems to be not working for them, we got it you love Gobert and hate Kanter but like i said before nobody cares about one persons opinion, also thanks for proving u are not a real Thunder fan nobody would talk like that about his teams player(asset) even u dont like him, we can see where the Kanter hate is coming from now :roll:
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Post#534 » by manou » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:23 am

Phreak50 wrote:I'd still take him in a heart beat over Kanter though for the record.
Every sane nba team would do the same.
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Post#535 » by nybluemeadow » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:24 am

HawaiianJazzFan wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:Who cares about his defense, he leaves his team 5v4 on offense everytime hes in the game, he must be worst offensive player in the league, he cant even stay in the game with that kind of offense.


Biggest Kanter homer on the site. Unlike Kanter who truly is maybe the worst defensive center in the history of basketball, Rudy can at the very least offensive rebound and pass. Kanter can't do anything defensively.


He is right. Gobert is one of the worst offensive players in the NBA, just embarrassing to watch. He is even a worst free throw shooter and has just horrible shoot stroke. His shooting is getting worst every year. It doesn't matter how good his defense is. if his offense and free throw shooting are this bad, the coach will never let him play in the 4th quater.

Gobert is a good role player or gimmick player, but he will never be a DPOY or all star and is barely a starter on a bad lottery team.
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Post#536 » by Goon » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:26 am

Jezus, am I dreaming? Gobert compared to McGee? Kanter is better and Okc fans like him? Gobert worst player on the Jazz?

No green font for all those comments?

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Post#537 » by bondom34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:29 am

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bondom34 wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
Both Thunderfans and on reddit ppl happy with him, except realgm where only 2-3 active ppl on the thunders forum,nobody cares about one persons opinion just bcuz you hate him it doesnt mean everybody should, anyway this is about Gobert stay on the topic

You just named the 2 biggest circlejerks out there, both places that still think Dion Waiters is a good player. And interestingly he's terrible (there's a bit of bias there).

And on topic, Gobert is fantastic (and a massively better player than Kanter).


OKay i got it majority of ppl are circlejerks except realgm every other thunder forums are circlejerks, actually except the 2-3 ppl on realgm thunder forums, every other thunder fan is a jerk i got you now, thanks.

And most of the ppl on those sites thinks Waiters is a bad player they were even worried about that he was coming back,

And on topic,Utah cant play Gobert bcuz they are losing bcuz of him, 5v4 offense seems to be not working for them, we got it you love Gobert and hate Kanter but like i said before nobody cares about one persons opinion, also thanks for proving u are not a real Thunder fan nobody would talk like that about his teams player(asset) even u dont like him, we can see where the Kanter hate is coming from now :roll:

That's not what circle jerk is.

And no, I like Kanter, but he's not nearly as good as Gobert (or frankly Adams, but hey I know you disagree there). The forum here likes him too, he's just not a guy you can rely on, a defender is needed at C. There's a reason Kanter only once ever had his team perform better when he was on the court than on the bench. That's a bad thing.
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Post#538 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:38 am

bondom34 wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:You just named the 2 biggest circlejerks out there, both places that still think Dion Waiters is a good player. And interestingly he's terrible (there's a bit of bias there).

And on topic, Gobert is fantastic (and a massively better player than Kanter).


OKay i got it majority of ppl are circlejerks except realgm every other thunder forums are circlejerks, actually except the 2-3 ppl on realgm thunder forums, every other thunder fan is a jerk i got you now, thanks.

And most of the ppl on those sites thinks Waiters is a bad player they were even worried about that he was coming back,

And on topic,Utah cant play Gobert bcuz they are losing bcuz of him, 5v4 offense seems to be not working for them, we got it you love Gobert and hate Kanter but like i said before nobody cares about one persons opinion, also thanks for proving u are not a real Thunder fan nobody would talk like that about his teams player(asset) even u dont like him, we can see where the Kanter hate is coming from now :roll:

That's not what circle jerk is.

And no, I like Kanter, but he's not nearly as good as Gobert (or frankly Adams, but hey I know you disagree there). The forum here likes him too, he's just not a guy you can rely on, a defender is needed at C. There's a reason Kanter only once ever had his team perform better when he was on the court than on the bench. That's a bad thing.


Kanter playing majority of his minutes with the bench players, anyway since you like Gobert so much can you explain why Utah had to bench him last few games and why he had worst +/- on his team last few games ?
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Post#539 » by bondom34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:39 am

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bondom34 wrote:
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OKay i got it majority of ppl are circlejerks except realgm every other thunder forums are circlejerks, actually except the 2-3 ppl on realgm thunder forums, every other thunder fan is a jerk i got you now, thanks.

And most of the ppl on those sites thinks Waiters is a bad player they were even worried about that he was coming back,

And on topic,Utah cant play Gobert bcuz they are losing bcuz of him, 5v4 offense seems to be not working for them, we got it you love Gobert and hate Kanter but like i said before nobody cares about one persons opinion, also thanks for proving u are not a real Thunder fan nobody would talk like that about his teams player(asset) even u dont like him, we can see where the Kanter hate is coming from now :roll:

That's not what circle jerk is.

And no, I like Kanter, but he's not nearly as good as Gobert (or frankly Adams, but hey I know you disagree there). The forum here likes him too, he's just not a guy you can rely on, a defender is needed at C. There's a reason Kanter only once ever had his team perform better when he was on the court than on the bench. That's a bad thing.


Kanter playing majority of his minutes with the bench players, anyway since you like Gobert so much can you explain why Utah had to bench him last few games and why he had worst +/- on his team last few games ?

Because it is a few games? You can do that for Kevin freakin Durant for a few games. Its Kanter's whole career.
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Post#540 » by freestyler34 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:47 am

bondom34 wrote:
freestyler34 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:That's not what circle jerk is.

And no, I like Kanter, but he's not nearly as good as Gobert (or frankly Adams, but hey I know you disagree there). The forum here likes him too, he's just not a guy you can rely on, a defender is needed at C. There's a reason Kanter only once ever had his team perform better when he was on the court than on the bench. That's a bad thing.


Kanter playing majority of his minutes with the bench players, anyway since you like Gobert so much can you explain why Utah had to bench him last few games and why he had worst +/- on his team last few games ?

Because it is a few games? You can do that for Kevin freakin Durant for a few games. Its Kanter's whole career.


Thanks you explained well " because Kanter " :lol: , btw maybe hes got worst +/- this whole season on the Utah starting five, wanna explain again ? wait wait i know bcuz Kanter sucks :roll:

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