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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#521 » by An Unbiased Fan » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:15 am

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Magic promised he'd get LeBron a star. He publicly said he'd resign if he couldn't turn the team around.

The ability for La to get another star was crushed by the AD debacle. Soured other players from wanting to play with Lebron after they saw what he did to his teammates. If he was 27 it would be one thing, but what star wants to team up with a 34-35 year old Lebron who gets all the credit, while you get all the blame?

Magic saw the writing on the wall. Again, had Klutch not pulled tricks, LA could have actually made a AD deal this offseason.


I just love the way you masterfully absolve Magic of all the problems whilst giving it to the guy you hate.

I'm just stating facts. Before the seaosn everyone knew why LA was signing vets to 1-yr deals. PG didn't follow Bron to LA, and SA didn't want to deal Kawhi in a trade. So they setup this offseason to get more help. That was a good plan, but it went to crap with the AD mess. Now NO won't deal with the Lakers, and the roster knows Lebron tried to get all of them traded. Other stars see Lebron whining about injuries, and the Lakers missing the playoffs.

If the AD demand doesn't happen, this stuff isn't an issue. Like I said at the time, if there was no AD trade after the demand...it would be a disaster for the Lakers.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#522 » by Lalouie » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:17 am

RipPizzaGuy wrote:Paul George spurns LA
The mid season AD attempt
Lavar ball/Lonzo drama
Lebron more concerned with space jam 2 than NBA
Luke Walton out with ty Lue and Jkidd rumored to replace
Magic steps down

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The realization that kawhi never liked the lakers.
Getting rid of all that young talent to make room for cap space for Lebron that will never happen
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#523 » by Middle Child » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:18 am

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Middle Child wrote:So let’s see.

Stint as Lakers coach- Fail
The Magic Hour TV show- Fail
Lakers POBO- Fail

Like LeBatard said dude keeps getting gigs because he’s charming but he’s not qualified to do these jobs at all.

Lakers can probably get any exec they want and now at least remotely have a chance at AD because of this.


Having a chance at AD means they have to outbid someone.

They really don’t have the assets for that short of winning the lottery or having other suitors like Boston drop out of the running, as their pick is a late lottery pick right now, their two main trade assets in Lonzo and Ingram are both banged up, and Lonzo’s dad has already made a stink about not wanting him in New Orleans.


It can be done but requires a lot of luck or a lot of legwork be done in shopping Lonzo to other teams for assets that New Orleans wants.


The point is the new GM/POBO will at least get NOP to pick up the phone and take them seriously.

Pels probably were not negotiating with a Magic/Pelinka led FO.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#524 » by Lalouie » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:20 am

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An Unbiased Fan wrote:The ability for La to get another star was crushed by the AD debacle. Soured other players from wanting to play with Lebron after they saw what he did to his teammates. If he was 27 it would be one thing, but what star wants to team up with a 34-35 year old Lebron who gets all the credit, while you get all the blame?

Magic saw the writing on the wall. Again, had Klutch not pulled tricks, LA could have actually made a AD deal this offseason.


I just love the way you masterfully absolve Magic of all the problems whilst giving it to the guy you hate.

I'm just stating facts. Before the seaosn everyone knew why LA was signing vets to 1-yr deals. PG didn't follow Bron to LA, and SA didn't want to deal Kawhi in a trade. So they setup this offseason to get more help. That was a good plan, but it went to crap with the AD mess. Now NO won't deal with the Lakers, and the roster knows Lebron tried to get all of them traded. Other stars see Lebron whining about injuries, and the Lakers missing the playoffs.

If the AD demand doesn't happen, this stuff isn't an issue. Like I said at the time, if there was no AD trade after the demand...it would be a disaster for the Lakers.


The whole "no star wants to play with Lebron" started with kd stating what was already on every star"s mind
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#525 » by Middle Child » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:22 am

D’Angelo Russell blossoming into what he is makes me feel even better about how the Lakers did him. Magic never deserved this job even Phil Jackson, who sucked, was more qualified.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#526 » by Gus McCrae » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:24 am

If Ingram and Ball play full seasons we look much more attractive. The AD/tampering league blackballing the Lakers was probably too much for Magic. On record I think a healthy Lonzo is better than D-Lo. But yeah our front office has issues :/
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#527 » by Tracymcgoaty » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:24 am

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An Unbiased Fan wrote:The ability for La to get another star was crushed by the AD debacle. Soured other players from wanting to play with Lebron after they saw what he did to his teammates. If he was 27 it would be one thing, but what star wants to team up with a 34-35 year old Lebron who gets all the credit, while you get all the blame?

Magic saw the writing on the wall. Again, had Klutch not pulled tricks, LA could have actually made a AD deal this offseason.


I just love the way you masterfully absolve Magic of all the problems whilst giving it to the guy you hate.

I'm just stating facts. Before the seaosn everyone knew why LA was signing vets to 1-yr deals. PG didn't follow Bron to LA, and SA didn't want to deal Kawhi in a trade. So they setup this offseason to get more help. That was a good plan, but it went to crap with the AD mess. Now NO won't deal with the Lakers, and the roster knows Lebron tried to get all of them traded. Other stars see Lebron whining about injuries, and the Lakers missing the playoffs.

If the AD demand doesn't happen, this stuff isn't an issue. Like I said at the time, if there was no AD trade after the demand...it would be a disaster for the Lakers.


Again you are giving 100% of the blame to Lebron that is not stating facts. Magic was on board with Trading away the core for AD his whole stupid thing was getting 2 superstars or he'll resign...He saw his chance to do that with AD..it all went to **** and both Lebron and Magic gets blamed for it. Dont try change the narrative as if Lebron is secretly running the franchise from the shadows. Magic is a self made billionaire, im pretty sure he does what he wants. See im giving blame to the both of them!

Plenty of stuff Magic has done to the detriment of the team before Lebron even came into the picture.

Traded DLo and proceeded to throw him under the bus..NICE! i bet that'll attract FA's

Traded Randle

Went on interviews saying he'll hug it out with the players saying lets look forward and fix this after the AD debacle, only for him to walk back on what he said in the next interview saying naaah im not about hugs and stuff these guys ain't babies.

Give me a **** break. Magic Johnson the person is a COWARD. The player is top 5 ever but as a person him resigning showed me everything i needed to know about him. Anything but a leader.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#528 » by An Unbiased Fan » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:28 am

Lalouie wrote:
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I just love the way you masterfully absolve Magic of all the problems whilst giving it to the guy you hate.

I'm just stating facts. Before the seaosn everyone knew why LA was signing vets to 1-yr deals. PG didn't follow Bron to LA, and SA didn't want to deal Kawhi in a trade. So they setup this offseason to get more help. That was a good plan, but it went to crap with the AD mess. Now NO won't deal with the Lakers, and the roster knows Lebron tried to get all of them traded. Other stars see Lebron whining about injuries, and the Lakers missing the playoffs.

If the AD demand doesn't happen, this stuff isn't an issue. Like I said at the time, if there was no AD trade after the demand...it would be a disaster for the Lakers.


The whole "no star wants to play with Lebron" started with kd stating what was already on every star"s mind
I think PG not coming started it. Then LA tried to get Kawhi in a trade. After that, I think they knew prospects were getting tough, but hoped the team would make a playoff run and entice a FA over.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#529 » by The KnicksFix » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:29 am

Jeanie Buss and the Lakers organization: Damn, we haven't been in the playoffs for years, Lebron ruined team chemistry requesting us to clean house for AD, we traded away players who are now good, and worst of all, no one will be talking about us come playoff time

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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#530 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:30 am

Damn I love this stuff when it's not happening to the Knicks!
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#531 » by Japago » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:30 am

Magic needed to go. His "vision" of adding play-makers and ignoring shooting and defense was awful, and that vision would've continued to produce awful rosters for years to come.

Now, the Lakers still need to fire Rob Pelinka and actually hire a good front office. If they can do that, the Lakers will be better going forward. Of course, there is reason to doubt Jeanie can do that.

But, Magic needed to go.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#532 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:34 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:this dude f***ed up the team and just left looooooool


This year was a complete punt, but they really aren't **** up at all. They got LeBron, young guys on cheap deals, all their picks I believe, and no bad contracts to cap strap them.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#533 » by An Unbiased Fan » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:37 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:
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I just love the way you masterfully absolve Magic of all the problems whilst giving it to the guy you hate.

I'm just stating facts. Before the seaosn everyone knew why LA was signing vets to 1-yr deals. PG didn't follow Bron to LA, and SA didn't want to deal Kawhi in a trade. So they setup this offseason to get more help. That was a good plan, but it went to crap with the AD mess. Now NO won't deal with the Lakers, and the roster knows Lebron tried to get all of them traded. Other stars see Lebron whining about injuries, and the Lakers missing the playoffs.

If the AD demand doesn't happen, this stuff isn't an issue. Like I said at the time, if there was no AD trade after the demand...it would be a disaster for the Lakers.


Again you are giving 100% of the blame to Lebron that is not stating facts. Magic was on board with Trading away the core for AD his whole stupid thing was getting 2 superstars or he'll resign...He saw his chance to do that with AD..it all went to **** and both Lebron and Magic gets blamed for it. Dont try change the narrative as if Lebron is secretly running the franchise from the shadows. Magic is a self made billionaire, im pretty sure he does what he wants. See im giving blame to the both of them!

Plenty of stuff Magic has done to the detriment of the team before Lebron even came into the picture.

Traded DLo and proceeded to throw him under the bus..NICE! i bet that'll attract FA's

Traded Randle

Went on interviews saying he'll hug it out with the players saying lets look forward and fix this after the AD debacle, only for him to walk back on what he said in the next interview saying naaah im not about hugs and stuff these guys ain't babies.

Give me a **** break. Magic Johnson the person is a COWARD. The player is top 5 ever but as a person him resigning showed me everything i needed to know about him. Anything but a leader.

DLo is an overrated chucker. Why does LA need a 32 USG% guy who shoots 53% TS?

LA swapped out Randle fro Lebron essentially, so how was that a bad deal? are we suppose to act like Bron/Randle wee going to work together?

Klutch forced LA into the AD debacle. Magic had to tried and make a deal because it was now or never. NO's front office was so pissed that they didn't deal at all.

I'm not happy with moves like the Zu trade, but Magic did a decent enough job. I don't think having a core of Ball/BI/Kuz, and landing Lebron with a max slot is a bad job as GM.
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#534 » by youngthegiant » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:38 am

Just when the Laker talk was starting cool down on National media...nope here's another month.
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Post#535 » by JohnPferdelack » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:40 am

Ernie Grunfeld can replace Magic. :P
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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#537 » by NyKnicks1714 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:43 am

An Unbiased Fan wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:
An Unbiased Fan wrote:The ability for La to get another star was crushed by the AD debacle. Soured other players from wanting to play with Lebron after they saw what he did to his teammates. If he was 27 it would be one thing, but what star wants to team up with a 34-35 year old Lebron who gets all the credit, while you get all the blame?

Magic saw the writing on the wall. Again, had Klutch not pulled tricks, LA could have actually made a AD deal this offseason.


I just love the way you masterfully absolve Magic of all the problems whilst giving it to the guy you hate.


I'm just stating facts..


Literally everything in your post was either opinion or conjecture.
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Post#538 » by Soca » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:43 am

What a mess. Jeanie is in way over her head.
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Post#539 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:44 am

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Re: Shams: Magic Johnson steps down as Lakers President of Basketball Operations 

Post#540 » by Tracymcgoaty » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:45 am

An Unbiased Fan wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:
An Unbiased Fan wrote:I'm just stating facts. Before the seaosn everyone knew why LA was signing vets to 1-yr deals. PG didn't follow Bron to LA, and SA didn't want to deal Kawhi in a trade. So they setup this offseason to get more help. That was a good plan, but it went to crap with the AD mess. Now NO won't deal with the Lakers, and the roster knows Lebron tried to get all of them traded. Other stars see Lebron whining about injuries, and the Lakers missing the playoffs.

If the AD demand doesn't happen, this stuff isn't an issue. Like I said at the time, if there was no AD trade after the demand...it would be a disaster for the Lakers.


Again you are giving 100% of the blame to Lebron that is not stating facts. Magic was on board with Trading away the core for AD his whole stupid thing was getting 2 superstars or he'll resign...He saw his chance to do that with AD..it all went to **** and both Lebron and Magic gets blamed for it. Dont try change the narrative as if Lebron is secretly running the franchise from the shadows. Magic is a self made billionaire, im pretty sure he does what he wants. See im giving blame to the both of them!

Plenty of stuff Magic has done to the detriment of the team before Lebron even came into the picture.

Traded DLo and proceeded to throw him under the bus..NICE! i bet that'll attract FA's

Traded Randle

Went on interviews saying he'll hug it out with the players saying lets look forward and fix this after the AD debacle, only for him to walk back on what he said in the next interview saying naaah im not about hugs and stuff these guys ain't babies.

Give me a **** break. Magic Johnson the person is a COWARD. The player is top 5 ever but as a person him resigning showed me everything i needed to know about him. Anything but a leader.

DLo is an overrated chucker. Why does LA need a 32 USG% guy who shoots 53% TS?

LA swapped out Randle fro Lebron essentially, so how was that a bad deal? are we suppose to act like Bron/Randle wee going to work together?

Klutch forced LA into the AD debacle. Magic had to tried and make a deal because it was now or never. NO's front office was so pissed that they didn't deal at all.

I'm not happy with moves like the Zu trade, but Magic did a decent enough job. I don't think having a core of Ball/BI/Kuz, and landing Lebron with a max slot is a bad job as GM.


What do you mean forced dude where is your proof of any of this? Everything about Magic tells me he was on board with this all along. The dude was never about building a team. He was all about getting 2 stars to LA. It went to **** and now he is trying to save face. He messed up and cant face the music.

But im dont with this. i'll wait until information or evidence comes out. Until then people are talking right out of their ass.
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