This is OBVIOUSLY Steph's era- not Lebron's.

[Homer38]

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

Compare the roster,top to bottom.....

Wiggins with his rib injury? Looney and GPII with the vomit inducing bug? True there was probably some young talent on the bench the coach refused for some reason to play the whole season but it does raise the question of whether Kerr is as good a coach as people say. Be careful this might boomerang on you especially if Jimmy Butler can bring a 34 year old Kevin Love to a championship.

Wtf,Kevin Love is not even a top 5 player of the heat at this point....He was a buyout too.In 2018,he was not good in the playoffs outside of the playoffs series vs Toronto

[nbhadja]

Lebron was always better than Curry by a good margin. Only fans that don't understand basketball think otherwise.

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[Ni Da Ye]

Lebron was always better than Curry by a good margin. Only fans that don't understand basketball think otherwise.

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2nd vs 12th，that margin seems huge.

[capfan33]

Who was their best teammate?

Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

Maybe Lebron playing 92% of all possible minutes has something to do with that.

[ThatClockWork]

Only if you think that Curry is a top 5 players ever

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That's a cool graphic, but it seems like Curry is able to, you know, WIN at a faster clip.

If the goal is to win, it just seems like the gap of accomplishments are null.

Then by your definition, someone like Bill Russell would be considered higher than Steph etc. in this argument. No buying it.
The graphic says it all. Lebron >>
Steph did his thing .. the Durant years leaves some dust on a few of those rings (but they are rings nonetheless).

[WarriorGM]

Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

Maybe Lebron playing 92% of all possible minutes has something to do with that.

I remember Love and company bailing LeBron out in the couple of minutes he stepped off the court in the 2018 Pacers series.

[akula1488]

Does it matter? It is Joker's Era, beginning this year

[jbk1234]

Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

Maybe Lebron playing 92% of all possible minutes has something to do with that.

Yeah, I mean 2015 was nuts after Kyrie went down. Mike Miller somehow got minutes in a Finals series. Delly started 5 games and played really heavy minutes. Shump played through a dislocated shoulder. It was LBJ, JR, and the triehards.

[dcstanley]

Who was their best teammate?

Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

He also didn't have anyone going 8 for 11 from beyond the arc in a game. Klay shot a better percentage from 3 in the series than Curry on similar volume.

2023 playoffs:
Klay: 18.5 PPG on 53 TS%
Wiggins: 16.5 PPG on 54 TS%
Draymond: 9 PPG, 7 RPG, 7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1 BPG

2018 playoffs:
Love: 14.9 PPG on 51 TS%
JR Smith: 8.7 PPG on 49 TS%
Jeff Green: 7.7 PPG on 52 TS%

[WarriorGM]

Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

He also didn't have anyone going 8 for 11 from beyond the arc in a game. Klay shot a better percentage from 3 in the series than Curry on similar volume.

2023 playoffs:
Klay: 18.5 PPG on 53 TS%
Wiggins: 16.5 PPG on 54 TS%
Draymond: 9 PPG, 7 RPG, 7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1 BPG

2018 playoffs:
Love: 14.9 PPG on 51 TS%
JR Smith: 8.7 PPG on 49 TS%
Jeff Green: 7.7 PPG on 52 TS%

The first round against the Kings was a run and gun series with more emphasis on offense than defense. Numbers from that series are thus inflated relatively speaking even without factoring in the differences between 2018 and 2023 basketball.

2018 in the finals
Love: 19/11/2 (53.5% TS%)

2023 against the Lakers
Klay: 16/5/2 (47.7 TS%)

Indeed it is debatable if Klay was ever a better second option in a series against the Cavaliers in 2015 and 2016 than Love was in the 2018 finals.

[Baski]

I'm rofl at the guy who used to spam all threads with "Curry won so he is better. Curry wins because he uplifts teammates" now scrambling to find any and all excuses, throwing his teammates under the bus, pulling out and comparing stats from 5 years ago to show how Steph had no help from his defending champion teammates. Almost like....dare I say it.....a LeBron Stan
Look at all of that context now that you can't just go "we always win of cuz Steph", especially when Steph threw up bricks all series and made his patented back pass to nobody in particular multiple times.

Crazy how things change when you have to deal with losing in a balanced matchup huh?

[NO-KG-AI]

:lol: I'm rofl at the guy who used to spam all threads with "Curry won so he is better. Curry wins because he uplifts teammates" now scrambling to find any and all excuses, throwing his teammates under the bus, pulling out and comparing stats from 5 years ago to show how Steph had no help from his defending champion teammates. Almost like....dare I say it.....a LeBron Stan
Look at all of that context now that you can't just go "we always win of cuz Steph", especially when Steph threw up bricks all series and made his patented back pass to nobody in particular multiple times.

Crazy how things change when you have to deal with losing in a balanced matchup huh?

I love the guys that always argue that teammates don't matter and that whoever wins is just better... until they lose. Then the teams matter lmao.

[dcstanley]

I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.

He also didn't have anyone going 8 for 11 from beyond the arc in a game. Klay shot a better percentage from 3 in the series than Curry on similar volume.

2023 playoffs:
Klay: 18.5 PPG on 53 TS%
Wiggins: 16.5 PPG on 54 TS%
Draymond: 9 PPG, 7 RPG, 7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1 BPG

2018 playoffs:
Love: 14.9 PPG on 51 TS%
JR Smith: 8.7 PPG on 49 TS%
Jeff Green: 7.7 PPG on 52 TS%

The first round against the Kings was a run and gun series with more emphasis on offense than defense. Numbers from that series are thus inflated relatively speaking even without factoring in the differences between 2018 and 2023 basketball.

2018 in the finals
Love: 19/11/2 (53.5% TS%)

2023 against the Lakers
Klay: 16/5/2 (47.7 TS%)

Indeed it is debatable if Klay was ever a better second option in a series against the Cavaliers in 2015 and 2016 than Love was in the 2018 finals.

Well, Klay wasn't that much worse than his first option in the 2016 finals

Steph: 23/5/4 (58 TS% and 56 EFG%)
Klay: 20/3/2/1/1 (56 TS% and 55 EFG%)
Draymond: 17/10/6/2/1 (62 TS% and 58 EFG%)

2016 playoffs as a whole

Steph: 25/5/5 (60 TS% and 55 EFG%
Klay: 24/4/2 (59 TS% and 55 EFG%)
Draymond: 15/9/6/2/2 (55 TS% and 50 EFG%)

When you consider the difference in defensive responsibilities and the fact that Klay and Draymond were responsible for two series wins while Curry was nursing an injury, it is debatable if Curry was even the best Warrior during that playoff run.

[The High Cyde]

Lol at all the dumb dumbs who gave an And-1 to the OP just the usual suspects

[baldur]

[Gil Renard]

Lol @ all the Dubs fans/Bron haters that clown him for 15/17/18 but have the audacity to say Curry needs moar halp this time! Not so fun when it’s a level playing field! Maybe dial up KD again and beg him to come back lol.

[WarriorGM]

He also didn't have anyone going 8 for 11 from beyond the arc in a game. Klay shot a better percentage from 3 in the series than Curry on similar volume.

2023 playoffs:
Klay: 18.5 PPG on 53 TS%
Wiggins: 16.5 PPG on 54 TS%
Draymond: 9 PPG, 7 RPG, 7 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1 BPG

2018 playoffs:
Love: 14.9 PPG on 51 TS%
JR Smith: 8.7 PPG on 49 TS%
Jeff Green: 7.7 PPG on 52 TS%

The first round against the Kings was a run and gun series with more emphasis on offense than defense. Numbers from that series are thus inflated relatively speaking even without factoring in the differences between 2018 and 2023 basketball.

2018 in the finals
Love: 19/11/2 (53.5% TS%)

2023 against the Lakers
Klay: 16/5/2 (47.7 TS%)

Indeed it is debatable if Klay was ever a better second option in a series against the Cavaliers in 2015 and 2016 than Love was in the 2018 finals.

Well, Klay wasn't that much worse than his first option in the 2016 finals

Steph: 23/5/4 (58 TS% and 56 EFG%)
Klay: 20/3/2/1/1 (56 TS% and 55 EFG%)
Draymond: 17/10/6/2/1 (62 TS% and 58 EFG%)

2016 playoffs as a whole

Steph: 25/5/5 (60 TS% and 55 EFG%
Klay: 24/4/2 (59 TS% and 55 EFG%)
Draymond: 15/9/6/2/2 (55 TS% and 50 EFG%)

When you consider the difference in defensive responsibilities and the fact that Klay and Draymond were responsible for two series wins while Curry was nursing an injury, it is debatable if Curry was even the best Warrior during that playoff run.

There you have it then! Klay is a bargain at $40 million per year. Care to trade Anthony Davis for him?

[Jerry Maine]

Lol @ all the Dubs fans/Bron haters that clown him for 15/17/18 but have the audacity to say Curry needs moar halp this time! Not so fun when it’s a level playing field! Maybe dial up KD again and beg him to come back lol.

Lol @ all the Bron fans/Dubs haters that clown Curry for playing alongside KD in the greatest team ever when OG cupcake snake Bron ran to Wade, Bosh, and still needed to add Ray Allen to pop his cherry. A bit audacious when 2 years later other stars team up isn't it? Maybe run away to greener pastures again, dial up AD for moar halp and beg him to demand a trade to LA.



This isn't what I believe, I actually respect Bron a hell of a lot.

This is your flipside

[Homer38]

2015 to 2018, Curry had better teammates than LBJ and this year LBJ had a better teammate than Curry....Both can be true.....And also we can say even if Curry is an all-time great(top 10-15) he is not at the same level as LBJ career wise, who is in the top 3 but it's crazy for some warriors fan that the teammates matter now that LBJ had a better team for the first time in this matchup

[Homer38]

The first round against the Kings was a run and gun series with more emphasis on offense than defense. Numbers from that series are thus inflated relatively speaking even without factoring in the differences between 2018 and 2023 basketball.

2018 in the finals
Love: 19/11/2 (53.5% TS%)

2023 against the Lakers
Klay: 16/5/2 (47.7 TS%)

Indeed it is debatable if Klay was ever a better second option in a series against the Cavaliers in 2015 and 2016 than Love was in the 2018 finals.

Well, Klay wasn't that much worse than his first option in the 2016 finals

Steph: 23/5/4 (58 TS% and 56 EFG%)
Klay: 20/3/2/1/1 (56 TS% and 55 EFG%)
Draymond: 17/10/6/2/1 (62 TS% and 58 EFG%)

2016 playoffs as a whole

Steph: 25/5/5 (60 TS% and 55 EFG%
Klay: 24/4/2 (59 TS% and 55 EFG%)
Draymond: 15/9/6/2/2 (55 TS% and 50 EFG%)

When you consider the difference in defensive responsibilities and the fact that Klay and Draymond were responsible for two series wins while Curry was nursing an injury, it is debatable if Curry was even the best Warrior during that playoff run.

There you have it then! Klay is a bargain at $40 million per year. Care to trade Anthony Davis for him?

No but if you think that Klay was bad this year in the playoffs,look at the playoffs number of Wade in 2013,it was awful!...Bosh was also outplayed by Roy Hibbert in the ECF matchup in 2013