[HAYNES] Nets and Lakers actively talking Russ/Kyrie trade…

[Karmaloop]

Yea and it's a great deal for the lakers because if his off the court nonsense does ruin the team they can just let him walk next year anyway. That's why the nets should push for as much as they can because this is a really great deal for LA.

Somehow I don't think Joe Tsai is going to be fond of paying luxury tax payments on Kyrie Irving while Irving is sitting at home. It's not my money, but that'd be my line of thinking.

[John Murdoch]

League is 100% rigged if washedbrick gets you Kyrie and Seth Curry

I agree.

Trading Kyrie for the corpse of Westbrook is about the only thing worse than not trading Kyrie at all. Downgrade in talent with zero financial incentive, and no return on potential draft assets from LA for what.. 4 years? Marks can not be that dumb. Unless there's a 3rd or 4th trading partner.. just can't see it as a 2-team trade.

Love him or hate him Irving is an undeniable talent. As your 2nd option your team is always a chance to win ball games.

Dude he just blew a 1st for friggin royce oneal, resigned Mills on a non contender, and didnt even get any ROI for Bruce Brown .

[giberish]

Yea and it's a great deal for the lakers because if his off the court nonsense does ruin the team they can just let him walk next year anyway. That's why the nets should push for as much as they can because this is a really great deal for LA.

Somehow I don't think Joe Tsai is going to be fond of paying luxury tax payments on Kyrie Irving while Irving is sitting at home. It's not my money, but that'd be my line of thinking.

Westbrook makes an extra $10M over Irving.

Does Tsai want to pay the extra taxes for Westbrook who doesn't help them win much even when he shows up?

[tribulations]

League is 100% rigged if washedbrick gets you Kyrie and Seth Curry

I agree.

Trading Kyrie for the corpse of Westbrook is about the only thing worse than not trading Kyrie at all. Downgrade in talent with zero financial incentive, and no return on potential draft assets from LA for what.. 4 years? Marks can not be that dumb. Unless there's a 3rd or 4th trading partner.. just can't see it as a 2-team trade.

Love him or hate him Irving is an undeniable talent. As your 2nd option your team is always a chance to win ball games.

Who else wants Kyrie and would give anything up for him? If there are no other options besides Russ and unprotected future picks the Nets are better off taking the picks.

I'd wait for a better offer, which frankly would not be difficult.

[Karmaloop]

Westbrook makes an extra $10M over Irving.

Does Tsai want to pay the extra taxes for Westbrook who doesn't help them win much even when he shows up?

Hence the reason why the Nets want Joe Harris to be tagging along with Kyrie Irving. The Nets want cap savings (Harris and Irving combined save the Nets $8.5M pre-luxury tax), and draft capital ('27 FRP and '29 FRP) from the Lakers. Lakers seem to be pushing back on that.

[ITYSL]

The Nets need to do what's in their best interest of their team,not cater to what Kyrie want. The Mavericks would become one of the best teams in the NBA anyway if they get Kyrie. Same with the 76ers. He will be fine going to those places. Plus the Nets can actually get assets with those teams,unlike the team he "supposedly" wants to go to.

What assets does Philadelphia have?

Tobias Harris,Tyrese Maxey(I don't want to trade him for Kyrie however),James Harden,and we still have a lot of our 1st round picks left. If Daryl Morey wants to really all in on winning now,we can offer the Nets James Harden or Tobias Harris,a unprotected 1st round pick in exchange for Kyrie and Seth Curry or Joe Harris and the Nets would easily take that deal.

Sixers if Harden is traded

PG-Tyrese Maxey
SG-Kyrie Irving
SF-Matisse Thybulle
PF-Tobias Harris
C-Joel Emiid

PJ Tucker and Danuel House Jr off the bench.

The 76ers would be contenders by getting rid of a washed James Harden for Kyrie and I think Kyrie would on his best behavior due to this being a contract year and his team would actually be winning. The Nets would get a washed up,but still good player in James Harden and a unprotected 1st to finally end the Kyrie drama. Not the best asset,but much better than the Lakers offer.

Morey's not trading away Harden a few months after he traded for him.

[Karmaloop]

I'd wait for a better offer, which frankly would not be difficult.

There's no market for him. Mavs' and Sixers' beat writers have already explicitly said they don't have any interest in Kyrie Irving.

[Onlytimewilltel]

I'd wait for a better offer, which frankly would not be difficult.

There's no market for him. Mavs' and Sixers' beat writers have already explicitly said they don't have any interest in Kyrie Irving.

It’s a really unique scenario with kryrie Irving. He sure shot his value.

[nbafan38]

League is 100% rigged if washedbrick gets you Kyrie and Seth Curry

I agree.

Trading Kyrie for the corpse of Westbrook is about the only thing worse than not trading Kyrie at all. Downgrade in talent with zero financial incentive, and no return on potential draft assets from LA for what.. 4 years? Marks can not be that dumb. Unless there's a 3rd or 4th trading partner.. just can't see it as a 2-team trade.

Love him or hate him Irving is an undeniable talent. As your 2nd option your team is always a chance to win ball games.

Dude he just blew a 1st for friggin royce oneal, resigned Mills on a non contender, and didnt even get any ROI for Bruce Brown .

Yea unless Marks/ownership is not really planning on blowing things up yet. The moves you mentioned above suggest this is a possibility. I find it interesting how laker fans are basically the only ones saying the nets should do this deal.

[Karmaloop]

It’s a really unique scenario with kryrie Irving. He sure shot his value.

It's quite literally a perfect storm. He's a nutcase, he's an expiring contract, and he's made it clear he's only willing to be traded to certain teams.

[AGAVE]

hearing rumblings that this trade is getting done today. Lakers are trying to gather second round picks from a 3rd team for Austin Reaves.

Reaves would be a loss as a future player for us.

How did the Austin suggestion enter into the conversations?

Just curious.....

THX

[nbafan38]

Yea and it's a great deal for the lakers because if his off the court nonsense does ruin the team they can just let him walk next year anyway. That's why the nets should push for as much as they can because this is a really great deal for LA.

Somehow I don't think Joe Tsai is going to be fond of paying luxury tax payments on Kyrie Irving while Irving is sitting at home. It's not my money, but that'd be my line of thinking.

Somehow I don't think it helps Kyries value in terms of getting the contract he wants if he sits out a whole year when hes a FA this offseason, he is Kyrie and may do it anyway but thats on him. The lakers maybe still take a chance on paying him big money next year but thats on them.

[ITYSL]

I'm seeing something about how the Lakers would prefer Seth Curry over Joe Harris in a potential Irving-Westbrook trade.

Am I missing something? Why would the Nets have to include more assets? In what world is Westbrook the better player in this trade, or at least clear cut enough that the Nets have to include one of their best 3-point shooters in addition to Irving?

Joe Harris is 30, on the books for $18 million through 2024, just missed 68 games with an ankle injury and apparently may not be ready to start next season because of the ankle. I’m not sure he’s a positive asset.

Westbrook is a 33-year-old, $47m negative asset. And all indications are that the Nets are not eager to get rid of Harris or Curry.

[Castle Black]

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[Karmaloop]

I’m hearing rumblings that this trade is getting done today. Lakers are trying to gather second round picks from a 3rd team for Austin Reaves. This will land the Lakers Kyrie and Curry instead of Kyrie and Harris. Pelinka is trying to keep THT for flexibility in future trade (Tht+Nunn for Hield)

G - Irving/vet
G - Hield/Curry
F - James/Walker IV/Brown Jr.
F - Davis/JTA/Johnson
C - Jones/Gabriel

Whose reporting the Reeves for SRPs part?

[Karmaloop]

Somehow I don't think it helps Kyries value in terms of getting the contract he wants if he sits out a whole year when hes a FA this offseason, he is Kyrie and may do it anyway but thats on him. The lakers maybe still take a chance on paying him big money next year but thats on them.

Hence the reason why everyone has motivation to see this deal get finished. Kyrie wants the Lakers to have his bird rights so he can get maximum money. The Lakers want Kyrie Irving to maximize their championship window with LeBron. The Nets want to maximize their return on a guy who is ready to walk, and not pay him to not play again. That's why I think it'll inevitably get done.

[ITYSL]

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"Eastern Conference Executive"

Ok, thanks Pat

Do people see what Dejounte Murray and Rudy Gobert just fetched in a trade? I don't think Herro and old man Lowry will get it done. Maybe if it includes a boatload of unprotected FRPs as well.

[ITYSL]

I think that Kyrie has more value to the Lakers than any other team, because Lebron will keep him in line. Not sure the value, but more than him going to other team for sure.

[nbafan38]

Somehow I don't think it helps Kyries value in terms of getting the contract he wants if he sits out a whole year when hes a FA this offseason, he is Kyrie and may do it anyway but thats on him. The lakers maybe still take a chance on paying him big money next year but thats on them.

Hence the reason why everyone has motivation to see this deal get finished. Kyrie wants the Lakers to have his bird rights so he can get maximum money. The Lakers want Kyrie Irving to maximize their championship window with LeBron. The Nets want to maximize their return on a guy who is ready to walk, and not pay him to not play again. That's why I think it'll inevitably get done.

I see how getting this deal finished fast benefits the lakers. I still don't see how it benefits the nets other than saving about 10 million if lakers take Harris. Worst case scenario is if Kyrie doesn't play at all and they haven't found a better deal they can always still trade him midseason. Best case scenario is you get him to play because it's a contract year.

It won't be a good look to the nets fanbase if ownership throws a way a chance to remain competitive over 10 million dollars or so although not saying its impossible.

[facothomas22]

What assets does Philadelphia have?

Tobias Harris,Tyrese Maxey(I don't want to trade him for Kyrie however),James Harden,and we still have a lot of our 1st round picks left. If Daryl Morey wants to really all in on winning now,we can offer the Nets James Harden or Tobias Harris,a unprotected 1st round pick in exchange for Kyrie and Seth Curry or Joe Harris and the Nets would easily take that deal.

Sixers if Harden is traded

PG-Tyrese Maxey
SG-Kyrie Irving
SF-Matisse Thybulle
PF-Tobias Harris
C-Joel Emiid

PJ Tucker and Danuel House Jr off the bench.

The 76ers would be contenders by getting rid of a washed James Harden for Kyrie and I think Kyrie would on his best behavior due to this being a contract year and his team would actually be winning. The Nets would get a washed up,but still good player in James Harden and a unprotected 1st to finally end the Kyrie drama. Not the best asset,but much better than the Lakers offer.

Morey's not trading away Harden a few months after he traded for him.

I don't see how Kyrie/James Harden would work based on how things work out in Brooklyn. They don't have the best relationship and I don't want to give away a young asset like Tyrese Maxey to get Kyrie. While a James Harden trade is very unlikely,it would be interest of the team to get rid of him. The only things he brings at this point is great passing and good 3pt shooting at times,but he's out of shape,he's known playoff choker and that's isn't all the sudden changing at 33 years old.