Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[hardenASG13]

My main point is imagine if Wemby is more like Hakeem: He is more versatile and taller, so his game can benefit greatly if he did what Hakeem did. Right off the bat his FG% and offensive rebounds will drastically improve since he's scoring closer to the rim.

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

P.S. It doesn't matter if he had a great game against the Bucks. His overall statistics is the only thing that matters.

You either don't watch him or don't know what you're watching when you do. None of those percentages matter with him right now. Either way, these bold fonted posts will be gold for years to come, as there is no way he won't be a superstar barring injuries.

[lebootz21]

My main point is imagine if Wemby is more like Hakeem: He is more versatile and taller, so his game can benefit greatly if he did what Hakeem did. Right off the bat his FG% and offensive rebounds will drastically improve since he's scoring closer to the rim.

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

P.S. It doesn't matter if he had a great game against the Bucks. His overall statistics is the only thing that matters.

You either don't watch him or don't know what you're watching when you do. None of those percentages matter with him right now. Either way, these bold fonted posts will be gold for years to come, as there is no way he won't be a superstar barring injuries.

Please don't use a strawman. I never said he will never be a superstar. I am only concern about his 43% FG 26% 3pt and simply suggesting the possibility he is making bad shot selections.

Why are Wemby stans so sensitive? It's a legit concern if he wants to act like an SG instead of center.

P.S. I bold my main points so you can address them.

[hardenASG13]

My main point is imagine if Wemby is more like Hakeem: He is more versatile and taller, so his game can benefit greatly if he did what Hakeem did. Right off the bat his FG% and offensive rebounds will drastically improve since he's scoring closer to the rim.

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

P.S. It doesn't matter if he had a great game against the Bucks. His overall statistics is the only thing that matters.

You either don't watch him or don't know what you're watching when you do. None of those percentages matter with him right now. Either way, these bold fonted posts will be gold for years to come, as there is no way he won't be a superstar barring injuries.

Please don't use a strawman. I never said he will never be a superstar. I am only concern about his 43% FG 26% 3pt and simply suggesting the possibility he could make better shot selections.

Why are Wemby stans so sensitive? It's a legit concern if he wants to act like an SG instead of center.

They arent "wemby stans", but likely have watched him play and realize your entire point you keep posting, thats hes 7'5 and is shooting a poor percentage from 3, is meaningless. He doesn't act like a sg, and his percentages in that offense mean nothing right now, which you'd only understand if you watch them. He should shoot whenever he wants, and his confidence that he can make the shots is what's important. He's been really good, throw the percentages away and stop worrying about his 3 point attempts on a team that's 5-29.

He isnt strong enough in his legs to play more in the post yet, and it would make 0 sense for him to put the amount of stress on his legs in attempting to do so for this team. They have missed him repeatedly for lobs and roll attempts all season. See the clip 2 posts below this by Marvin Martian. It happens all the time, automatic dunk by wemby if the ball is passed.

[lebootz21]

I don't think a 1 game sample is a legit argument. Sure he had a great game against the Bucks, but it doesn't change the fact he is still shooting in the low 40s on 2s and mid 20s on 3s. If it was a typical guard, you would still consider that bad, but he's 7'4", his FG should be astronomically better.

What is wrong with me questioning his shot selections? It's a legit concern. I'm not trolling.

[Marvin Martian]

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[lebootz21]

You either don't watch him or don't know what you're watching when you do. None of those percentages matter with him right now. Either way, these bold fonted posts will be gold for years to come, as there is no way he won't be a superstar barring injuries.

Please don't use a strawman. I never said he will never be a superstar. I am only concern about his 43% FG 26% 3pt and simply suggesting the possibility he could make better shot selections.

Why are Wemby stans so sensitive? It's a legit concern if he wants to act like an SG instead of center.

They arent "wemby stans", but likely have watched him play and realize your entire point you keep posting, thats hes 7'5 and is shooting a poor percentage from 3, is meaningless. He doesn't act like a sg, and his percentages in that offense mean nothing right now, which you'd only understand if you watch them. He should shoot whenever he wants, and his confidence that he can make the shots is what's important. He's been really good, throw the percentages away and stop worrying about his 3 point attempts on a team that's 5-29.

Look I only deal with facts. I see 43% shooting and 26% 3pt.

If I was his coach, I would stop a couple of things ... namely the 3pt shot.

I would get rid of it.

I'm not going to argue with you what kind of style he's playing because that is subjective. All I know is 43% FG for a center is pretty bad.

I mean historically bad.

I thought he's supposed to be better than Hakeem, Duncan, and Shaq?

Their FG never dipped below 50. He's in the low 40s.

That's bad.

P.S. I am just a concerned citizen, not hater.

[tsherkin]

I don't think a 1 game sample is a legit argument. Sure he had a great game against the Bucks, but it doesn't change the fact he is still shooting in the low 40s on 2s and mid 20s on 3s. If it was a typical guard, you would still consider that bad, but he's 7'4", his FG should be astronomically better.

But that supposes he's being played in a specific fashion. The correlation between size and FG% has traditionally come from proportion of shots inside 10 feet, especially near the rim. It's also worth noting that VW is shooting 47.2% FG over the last 16 games, 49% over the past 10 games, and 54.7% over the past 4. His FG% is trending up, but you're still looking at the whole season snapshot, even as his position has changed, his role's evolving, etc.

The devil's in the details, man.

[lebootz21]

I don't think a 1 game sample is a legit argument. Sure he had a great game against the Bucks, but it doesn't change the fact he is still shooting in the low 40s on 2s and mid 20s on 3s. If it was a typical guard, you would still consider that bad, but he's 7'4", his FG should be astronomically better.

But that supposes he's being played in a specific fashion. The correlation between size and FG% has traditionally come from proportion of shots inside 10 feet, especially near the rim. It's also worth noting that VW is shooting 47.2% FG over the last 16 games, 49% over the past 10 games, and 54.7% over the past 4. His FG% is trending up, but you're still looking at the whole season snapshot, even as his position has changed, his role's evolving, etc.

The devil's in the details, man.

What are you talking about what "fashion" he plays? If he's shooting 43% and 26%, I don't care what fashion he's playing, maybe he should change it?

43 and 26 is Smush Parker territory. I don't care how you sugar coat it.

[manlisten]

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

You might wanna look up KD and Dirk's shooting splits from their rookie years.

[hardenASG13]

Please don't use a strawman. I never said he will never be a superstar. I am only concern about his 43% FG 26% 3pt and simply suggesting the possibility he could make better shot selections.

Why are Wemby stans so sensitive? It's a legit concern if he wants to act like an SG instead of center.

They arent "wemby stans", but likely have watched him play and realize your entire point you keep posting, thats hes 7'5 and is shooting a poor percentage from 3, is meaningless. He doesn't act like a sg, and his percentages in that offense mean nothing right now, which you'd only understand if you watch them. He should shoot whenever he wants, and his confidence that he can make the shots is what's important. He's been really good, throw the percentages away and stop worrying about his 3 point attempts on a team that's 5-29.

Look I only deal with facts. I see 43% shooting and 26% 3pt.

If I was his coach, I would stop a couple of things ... namely the 3pt shot.

I would get rid of it.

I'm not going to argue with you what kind of style he's playing because that is subjective. All I know is 43% FG for a center is pretty bad.

I mean historically bad.

I thought he's supposed to be better than Hakeem, Duncan, and Shaq?

Their FG never dipped below 50. He's in the low 40s.

That's bad.

P.S. I am just a concerned citizen, not hater.

Watch the clips on this page by Marvin Martian. They sum up what I'm saying to you perfectly, in that you need to watch the Spurs and not look at his percentages or shot selection. He is missed repeatedly for surefire dunks, and has been all season in mind boggling fashion.

[lebootz21]

They arent "wemby stans", but likely have watched him play and realize your entire point you keep posting, thats hes 7'5 and is shooting a poor percentage from 3, is meaningless. He doesn't act like a sg, and his percentages in that offense mean nothing right now, which you'd only understand if you watch them. He should shoot whenever he wants, and his confidence that he can make the shots is what's important. He's been really good, throw the percentages away and stop worrying about his 3 point attempts on a team that's 5-29.

Look I only deal with facts. I see 43% shooting and 26% 3pt.

If I was his coach, I would stop a couple of things ... namely the 3pt shot.

I would get rid of it.

I'm not going to argue with you what kind of style he's playing because that is subjective. All I know is 43% FG for a center is pretty bad.

I mean historically bad.

I thought he's supposed to be better than Hakeem, Duncan, and Shaq?

Their FG never dipped below 50. He's in the low 40s.

That's bad.

P.S. I am just a concerned citizen, not hater.

Watch the clips on this page by Marvin Martian. They sum up what I'm saying to you perfectly, in that you need to watch the Spurs and not look at his percentages or shot selection. He is missed repeatedly for surefire dunks, and has been all season in mind boggling fashion.

What about team net rating? He's losing, so how do I know these aren't just empty stats?

Do you have another metric more important than net rating? I'm interested.

With all due respect, I don't care about what he did in the Bucks game or some insane block he had on Giannis.

All of that is irrelevant.

The only metrics that matter to me are his FG%, 3pt.%, Defensive Rating, and Net Rating.

I personally believe TS% is flawed since it does not differentiate the difference between a 2 point attempt and 3pt, thus someone like Gobert can be seen as a good of a shooter as Curry, which is not true.

What metrics (facts) are you using?

A one game sample and "OMG he blocked Giannis" is not a legit argument.

[Slim Charlez]

This is definitely concerning

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I know there have been some conspiracy theorists out there claiming that his teammates are jealous of him but it's just the result of having a bunch of young low IQ players on the roster. I laughed at the idea but even someone like CP3 right now would do wonders for Wemby compared to this group.

[lebootz21]

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

You might wanna look up KD and Dirk's shooting splits from their rookie years.

I understand your point, but my argument is Wemby can be so much more if he played closer to the paint. Don't get me wrong, I think he can be a generational talent, but the question is can he be MORE effective as a Hakeem than a KD?

[tsherkin]

What are you talking about what "fashion" he plays? If he's shooting 43% and 26%, I don't care what fashion he's playing, maybe he should change it?

But that's the point: in your rush to crap on him, you don't realize that he already has begun doing so...

[manlisten]

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

You might wanna look up KD and Dirk's shooting splits from their rookie years.

I understand your point, but my argument is Wemby can be so much more if he played closer to the paint. Don't get me wrong, I think he can be a generational talent, but the question is can he be MORE effective as a Hakeem than a KD?

Many if not most of their possessions feature Wemby diving into the paint and getting position before drifting out to the 3 point line when the ball doesn't find him. I think that's why people are asking if you watch the Spurs play. The 3 point shot is a necessity in today's game and he will grow into a good shooter. Let's be glad KD and Dirk didn't abandon it after 1 season.

It's also interesting that you referenced KD when he historically hasn't taken as many 3s as he should with how accurate he is. If Wemby settles at 5 3s a game like KD, that's perfectly fine.

[jpengland]

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

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Durant rookie year: 43%FG 28%3FG

Nowitzki rookie year: 40%FG and 20%3FG

Get out of here.

[og15]

I don't think a 1 game sample is a legit argument. Sure he had a great game against the Bucks, but it doesn't change the fact he is still shooting in the low 40s on 2s and mid 20s on 3s. If it was a typical guard, you would still consider that bad, but he's 7'4", his FG should be astronomically better.

What is wrong with me questioning his shot selections? It's a legit concern. I'm not trolling.

If the Spurs were actually trying to optimize him, his shooting could be more of a concern. They are currently just letting him basically go hoop for fun.

If the Spurs were a team trying to win (eg: OKC), we would see a much more efficient Wemby. As of now they are basically let him go out and see what skills he can be effective with against NBA teams and basically test his skills out.

His rookie season on a terrible team is really not the time to be harping about shooting percentages.

[thelead]

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

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Durant rookie year: 43%FG 28%3FG

Nowitzki rookie year: 40%FG and 20%3FG

Get out of here.

Yup. Same ridiculousness was used against Paolo last year. People have zero patience and historical perspective to let things play out. No one knows how it will all play out but Wemby certainly wouldn’t be the first blue-chip rookie to struggle with efficiency only to turn into a monster a few years later.

[og15]

Wemby does not have the shooting touch of Nowitski or Durant. His 43% FG and 26% 3pt is concerning.

[/b]

Durant rookie year: 43%FG 28%3FG

Nowitzki rookie year: 40%FG and 20%3FG

Get out of here.

Yup. Same ridiculousness was used against Paolo last year. People have zero patience and historical perspective to let things play out. No one knows how it will all play out but Wemby certainly wouldn’t be the first blue-chip rookie to struggle with efficiency only to turn into a monster a few years later.

Most rookies suck at efficiency, they are literally learning to play against this level of players, at the pace, usually playing more games per week than they are used to. I don't know why we have this same stuff all the time and people don't learn.

Rookie efficiency, especially on bad teams is just not particularly important.

[bledredwine]

The only thing fans are concerned with is how dominant Wembanyama is already looking his rookie season.