Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10)

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

Mourning_Would
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,298
And1: 527
Joined: May 04, 2010
Location: ft. lauderdale Florida
   

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#541 » by Mourning_Would » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:42 pm

I cant believe the wiz traded Arenas for Rashard and his terrible contract. good deal for the suns, they get a big man
Image
Else_where wrote:Wtf is Rose doing in that team huddle?
Wilford Brimley
Banned User
Posts: 13,477
And1: 81
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
Location: Super Bowl I, II, XXXI, XLV Champions

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#542 » by Wilford Brimley » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:59 pm

AlexKennedyNBA

Stan Van Gundy said that moving Rashard Lewis was one of his toughest decisions he has ever had to make as far as trades go.


:lol: Yeah okay, Stan.
droponov
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,326
And1: 9
Joined: Jul 27, 2010

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#543 » by droponov » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:00 pm

Btw, kudos to the Magic blog http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/ for breaking the news about the Arenas trade a couple of weeks ago. They got lots of scorn when the trade was denied, but they did better than the MSM.
doctorfunk
Banned User
Posts: 4,334
And1: 6
Joined: Sep 13, 2010

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#544 » by doctorfunk » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:09 pm

heatdynasty2010 wrote:I cant believe the wiz traded Arenas for Rashard and his terrible contract. good deal for the suns, they get a big man


it's very similar contracl, but it seemed to me Arenas holds more value than Lewis so weird they didn't even get 2nd rounder with Lewis
User avatar
RookieStar
RealGM
Posts: 27,999
And1: 8,157
Joined: Jul 01, 2009
 

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#545 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:12 pm

What's most important here for us magic fans is :

DIE STRETCH 4 DIE!!!!!!!
Pharmcat
RealGM
Posts: 56,841
And1: 19,334
Joined: Oct 05, 2002

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#546 » by Pharmcat » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:18 pm

after thinking bout this a bit

I think the pho deal was not good for ORL, i get the areanas for lewis deal

but they lost size and a very good bench player in pietrus, lets see if they follow it up and make more small trades
Image
doctorfunk
Banned User
Posts: 4,334
And1: 6
Joined: Sep 13, 2010

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#547 » by doctorfunk » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:23 pm

nelson for decent PF/C and they are home
User avatar
RutgersBJJ
General Manager
Posts: 8,749
And1: 125
Joined: Oct 05, 2008

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#548 » by RutgersBJJ » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:25 pm

I don't think people understand the vast talent difference between VC and J-Rich. J-Rich is the vastly superior player and will fit in perfectly with Orlando. Obviously besides the financial ramifications of taking on a scrub like Turk with his contract, Orlando won the talent part of the trade. They got the only starting quality player in the Phx-Orl trade.
RIP Jared Jeffries. Gone but never forgotten...2006-2012
User avatar
RookieStar
RealGM
Posts: 27,999
And1: 8,157
Joined: Jul 01, 2009
 

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#549 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:25 pm

Pharmcat wrote:after thinking bout this a bit

I think the pho deal was not good for ORL, i get the areanas for lewis deal

but they lost size and a very good bench player in pietrus, lets see if they follow it up and make more small trades


I can see the Jrich reason.. Hedo is more of a gamble.

VC was done. He couldn't do it for us anymore. However, adding Gortat into the deal without getting back a legit big back was a little ???? for me.

Pietrus was not driving to the hole anymore, he was just chucking 3s. We have JJ and Jrich for that now.
User avatar
SOUL
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 59,286
And1: 41,037
Joined: Dec 11, 2006
Location: Orl★ndo
     

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#550 » by SOUL » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:26 pm

Pharmcat wrote:after thinking bout this a bit

I think the pho deal was not good for ORL, i get the areanas for lewis deal

but they lost size and a very good bench player in pietrus, lets see if they follow it up and make more small trades


People overrate marginal players when they move.

Pietrus is a good defender but that didnt stop LeBron from lighting him up. He sucks all season and then in the playoffs he tends to step it up, but still, he is the most hot and cold player ever that I would never trust in the clutch.
www.rareslums.com // please support my writing!
Jose_Matador
Banned User
Posts: 5,461
And1: 3
Joined: Nov 02, 2009

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#551 » by Jose_Matador » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:29 pm

can somebody please post the transaction... im confused as hell/ in a daze.
User avatar
picc
RealGM
Posts: 19,586
And1: 21,168
Joined: Apr 08, 2009
 

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#552 » by picc » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:29 pm

RutgersBJJ wrote:I don't think people understand the vast talent difference between VC and J-Rich. J-Rich is the vastly superior player and will fit in perfectly with Orlando. Obviously besides the financial ramifications of taking on a scrub like Turk with his contract, Orlando won the talent part of the trade. They got the only starting quality player in the Phx-Orl trade.


The vast talent difference between VC and JRich goes Vince's way, and i'm shocked anyone would say otherwise. The reason its an upgrade for Orlando is because Vince is frail, has no heart, and is made of pu$$y. JRich, on top of his talent, is one of the most fiery competitor's in the league.
Image
GaNGsTaRr93
Starter
Posts: 2,164
And1: 2
Joined: May 03, 2010

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#553 » by GaNGsTaRr93 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:30 pm

Wilford Brimley wrote:
AlexKennedyNBA

Stan Van Gundy said that moving Rashard Lewis was one of his toughest decisions he has ever had to make as far as trades go.


:lol: Yeah okay, Stan.

The organization is close to the players...
User avatar
SUN
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,840
And1: 866
Joined: Feb 21, 2010

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#554 » by SUN » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:31 pm

Jose_Matador wrote:can somebody please post the transaction... im confused as hell/ in a daze.

Rashard for Arenas.

Hedo/J-Rich/Clark for VC/Gortat/Mickeal/1st/3Millon cash exception.
Image
Jose_Matador
Banned User
Posts: 5,461
And1: 3
Joined: Nov 02, 2009

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#555 » by Jose_Matador » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:32 pm

oh so Orlando will have a starting lineup of...


Jameer Nelson
J-Rich
Hedo
???
Howard

and GA coming off the bench ???? woah.
Chris435
Starter
Posts: 2,469
And1: 58
Joined: Feb 24, 2008
 

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#556 » by Chris435 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:34 pm

Stan better not stick with that silly offense they have in place now
User avatar
Mateen Cleaves
Head Coach
Posts: 6,483
And1: 3
Joined: Jul 19, 2005

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#557 » by Mateen Cleaves » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:35 pm

Jose_Matador wrote:oh so Orlando will have a starting lineup of...


Jameer Nelson
J-Rich
Hedo
???
Howard

and GA coming off the bench ???? woah.

Hedo shouldnt start and he wont.
Kingsforlife
Banned User
Posts: 2,467
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 10, 2010
Contact:

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#558 » by Kingsforlife » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:35 pm

Nelson
Arenas
Jrich
Turkey/Bass
Howard
User avatar
SOUL
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 59,286
And1: 41,037
Joined: Dec 11, 2006
Location: Orl★ndo
     

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#559 » by SOUL » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:36 pm

Our starting lineup will most likely be:

Nelson
Arenas
J-Rich
Bass
Howard

or

Nelson
Arenas
Turkoglu
Bass
Howard

small percent of

Nelson
Arenas
J-Rich
Turkoglu
Howard

Those are the only possibilities, IMO.
www.rareslums.com // please support my writing!
User avatar
BIRDMAN BIRDMAN
Head Coach
Posts: 6,198
And1: 2,353
Joined: Mar 22, 2009
 

Re: Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10) 

Post#560 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:36 pm

I think they'll go with Jameer / Arenas / JRich / Bass / Dwight, with Hedo a 6th man. That's not bad at all.
:hug:

Return to The General Board