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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#541 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:25 pm

hayden wrote:
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How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

he lost his starting job
is that doing his job right?


he lost his starting job because of Harden and because McHale dislikes playmaking PGs (lol). but that's besides the point.

what are you really arguing now anyway? that Lin shouldn't have tweeted anything because you don't think it was a big deal? that's fine, that's your opinion, but you are in a minority. so, at least try and understand why people think otherwise and why people think it's disrespectful. Lin's tweet is actually quite benign and i'm sure he felt some pressure to respond to everyone pointing out those photos of Melo to him.

my point is his fans overreacted
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#542 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:28 pm

BflI wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
BflI wrote:
How can you equate asking to be informed before hand to show some courtesy and respect as being treated like a king?

Lin improved every facet of his game compared to last year while being demoted to bench with less than 10 shots attempt a game, how does that equate to not doing his job right?

loyalty is a two ways street, money does not guaranteed talents

he lost his starting job
is that doing his job right?


Comon MaxRider you are better than that.

You and I both know the reason Lin lost his spot is because he does not fit with Harden, that is not the job when he first signed up to do.

really? lin doesn't fit well with harden?
didn't lin has as better stats as a starter than bench player per 36 min?
there are plenty of those stat posts on the rockets board
you might have to go back 40-50 pages to see it though
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#543 » by spaceballer » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:44 pm

MaxRider wrote:
hayden wrote:what are you really arguing now anyway? that Lin shouldn't have tweeted anything because you don't think it was a big deal? that's fine, that's your opinion, but you are in a minority. so, at least try and understand why people think otherwise and why people think it's disrespectful. Lin's tweet is actually quite benign and i'm sure he felt some pressure to respond to everyone pointing out those photos of Melo to him.

my point is his fans overreacted


Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#544 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:50 pm

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hayden wrote:what are you really arguing now anyway? that Lin shouldn't have tweeted anything because you don't think it was a big deal? that's fine, that's your opinion, but you are in a minority. so, at least try and understand why people think otherwise and why people think it's disrespectful. Lin's tweet is actually quite benign and i'm sure he felt some pressure to respond to everyone pointing out those photos of Melo to him.

my point is his fans overreacted


Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."

his fans doesn't have to be a rockets fan
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#545 » by hayden » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:54 pm

MaxRider wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
MaxRider wrote:my point is his fans overreacted


Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."

his fans doesn't have to be a rockets fan


damn bro, you're grasping at straws here.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#546 » by 13th Man » Thu Jul 3, 2014 9:54 pm

spaceballer wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
hayden wrote:what are you really arguing now anyway? that Lin shouldn't have tweeted anything because you don't think it was a big deal? that's fine, that's your opinion, but you are in a minority. so, at least try and understand why people think otherwise and why people think it's disrespectful. Lin's tweet is actually quite benign and i'm sure he felt some pressure to respond to everyone pointing out those photos of Melo to him.

my point is his fans overreacted


Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."


This is what I've been trying to get across as well. Public opinion is heavily behind Lin on this matter, MaxR doesn't seem to want to acknowledge it. Morey's being a douchebag about the entire thing first by lying to reporters, then trying to cover up the lie with more cover ups. Diehard Rocket fans frantically try to play it off as no big deal but they go into great lengths writing articles about it and trying to defend themselves to no end.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#547 » by Sasaki » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:04 pm

13th Man wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
MaxRider wrote:my point is his fans overreacted


Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."

This is what I've been trying to get across as well. Public opinion is heavily behind Lin on this matter, MaxR doesn't seem to want to acknowledge it. Morey's being a douchebag about the entire thing first by lying to reporters, then trying to cover up the lie with more cover ups. Diehard Rocket fans frantically try to play it off as no big deal but they go into great lengths writing articles about it and trying to defend themselves to no end.

Of course public opinion is behind Lin. People hate the Rockets because people hate Howard and Harden, and people love Lin because Linsanity was awesome and Lin is the poor little underdog being abused by the mean superstars. Truth doesn't matter in the world of sports, people will look for an excuse to prop up their heroes and slander the bad guys.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#548 » by 13th Man » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:11 pm

Sasaki wrote:
13th Man wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."

This is what I've been trying to get across as well. Public opinion is heavily behind Lin on this matter, MaxR doesn't seem to want to acknowledge it. Morey's being a douchebag about the entire thing first by lying to reporters, then trying to cover up the lie with more cover ups. Diehard Rocket fans frantically try to play it off as no big deal but they go into great lengths writing articles about it and trying to defend themselves to no end.

Of course public opinion is behind Lin. People hate the Rockets because people hate Howard and Harden, and people love Lin because Linsanity was awesome and Lin is the poor little underdog being abused by the mean superstars. Truth doesn't matter in the world of sports, people will look for an excuse to prop up their heroes and slander the bad guys.


If it's the truth then why need to lie about it in the first place? There's a reason why some people hate on the Rockets organization, it's one shady event after another, this organization cannot be trusted.

What have the Rockets done to deserve this bad guy image? They can't even get past the 1st round, it's not like we're dealing with the old Pistons here, they were bad but actually good. Nobody's jealous of how the Rockets have turned out thus far, I see more people laughing at their bonehead decisions like letting good players go yet keeping McHale.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#549 » by hayden » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:16 pm

Sasaki wrote:
13th Man wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
Scroll though the 1600+ comment thread on Reddit and look at the team flair icons next to each user's name. It's not "his fans", but the fans of every other team in the NBA standing behind Lin on this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/29 ... y_rockets/

I see team flair icons for Grizzlies, Raptors, Lakers, Knicks, Blazers, Bulls, Spurs, Celtics, Bucks, Mavs, etc...the list goes on. Heck, there are even guys rocking Seattle Supers Sonics icons there. So let's not try to pigeonhole this as "Lin fans."

This is what I've been trying to get across as well. Public opinion is heavily behind Lin on this matter, MaxR doesn't seem to want to acknowledge it. Morey's being a douchebag about the entire thing first by lying to reporters, then trying to cover up the lie with more cover ups. Diehard Rocket fans frantically try to play it off as no big deal but they go into great lengths writing articles about it and trying to defend themselves to no end.

Of course public opinion is behind Lin. People hate the Rockets because people hate Howard and Harden, and people love Lin because Linsanity was awesome and Lin is the poor little underdog being abused by the mean superstars. Truth doesn't matter in the world of sports, people will look for an excuse to prop up their heroes and slander the bad guys.


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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#550 » by jamesnamida » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:19 pm

Lin should just become a priest and be done with it my lord.
Anyways I kinda want Melo in Houston but also in Chicago, since the top of the east is so boring.
Why can't morey just trade Lin now, not like his the difference between a championship for that roster.
I'm sure they will pick up other pieces if they don't get Melo. No sense in keeping Lin who is not helpful in his rockets role.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#551 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:27 pm

13th Man wrote:
Sasaki wrote:
13th Man wrote:This is what I've been trying to get across as well. Public opinion is heavily behind Lin on this matter, MaxR doesn't seem to want to acknowledge it. Morey's being a douchebag about the entire thing first by lying to reporters, then trying to cover up the lie with more cover ups. Diehard Rocket fans frantically try to play it off as no big deal but they go into great lengths writing articles about it and trying to defend themselves to no end.

Of course public opinion is behind Lin. People hate the Rockets because people hate Howard and Harden, and people love Lin because Linsanity was awesome and Lin is the poor little underdog being abused by the mean superstars. Truth doesn't matter in the world of sports, people will look for an excuse to prop up their heroes and slander the bad guys.


If it's the truth then why need to lie about it in the first place? There's a reason why some people hate on the Rockets organization, it's one shady event after another, this organization cannot be trusted.

What have the Rockets done to deserve this bad guy image? They can't even get past the 1st round, it's not like we're dealing with the old Pistons here, they were bad but actually good. Nobody's jealous of how the Rockets have turned out thus far, I see more people laughing at their bonehead decisions like letting good players go yet keeping McHale.

3rd most profitable team in 2013-14 season
i'm sure someone is jealous
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#552 » by 13th Man » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:28 pm

MaxRider wrote:
13th Man wrote:
Sasaki wrote:Of course public opinion is behind Lin. People hate the Rockets because people hate Howard and Harden, and people love Lin because Linsanity was awesome and Lin is the poor little underdog being abused by the mean superstars. Truth doesn't matter in the world of sports, people will look for an excuse to prop up their heroes and slander the bad guys.


If it's the truth then why need to lie about it in the first place? There's a reason why some people hate on the Rockets organization, it's one shady event after another, this organization cannot be trusted.

What have the Rockets done to deserve this bad guy image? They can't even get past the 1st round, it's not like we're dealing with the old Pistons here, they were bad but actually good. Nobody's jealous of how the Rockets have turned out thus far, I see more people laughing at their bonehead decisions like letting good players go yet keeping McHale.

3rd most profitable team in 2013-14 season
i'm sure someone is jealous


And the general fan really keeps tab on that or care.
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Post#553 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:31 pm

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MaxRider wrote:
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If it's the truth then why need to lie about it in the first place? There's a reason why some people hate on the Rockets organization, it's one shady event after another, this organization cannot be trusted.

What have the Rockets done to deserve this bad guy image? They can't even get past the 1st round, it's not like we're dealing with the old Pistons here, they were bad but actually good. Nobody's jealous of how the Rockets have turned out thus far, I see more people laughing at their bonehead decisions like letting good players go yet keeping McHale.

3rd most profitable team in 2013-14 season
i'm sure someone is jealous


And the general fan really keeps tab on that or care.

of course they do or else no one will keep commenting on this topic
imagine if this is milwaukee bucks
will casual fans care about ilyasova?
people hate rockets
people hate morey
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#554 » by MitchellUK » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:31 pm

Are people now suggesting that only hardcore Lin fans or people with an anti-Rockets agenda are supporting Lin in this?

You don't have to blindly support one party or hate another to recognize wrong as wrong. I like the Rockets, I watched a lot of their games on League Pass last year. Not always I big fan of their tendency to descend into iso ball, but I watched plenty of very entertaining Rockets games last season. I'm not a big Lin fan. He's a decent player, but I got completely burnt out on the Linsanity hype.

Lin's abilities or performance last season have nothing to do with this situation. His most rabid supporters have nothing to do with it, nor his most staunch detractors. His potential replacement, Anthony, has nothing to do with it. His team-mates and coaches have nothing to do with it. What matters here is that the Rockets as an employer showed a fundamental lack of respect to an employee, Lin.
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Post#555 » by Knighthonor » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:31 pm

Smh that team is a joke!!!
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Post#556 » by 13th Man » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:34 pm

MitchellUK wrote:Are people now suggesting that only hardcore Lin fans or people with an anti-Rockets agenda are supporting Lin in this?

You don't have to blindly support one party or hate another to recognize wrong as wrong. I like the Rockets, I watched a lot of their games on League Pass last year. Not always I big fan of their tendency to descend into iso ball, but I watched plenty of very entertaining Rockets games last season. I'm not a big Lin fan. He's a decent player, but I got completely burnt out on the Linsanity hype.

Lin's abilities or performance last season have nothing to do with this situation. His most rabid supporters have nothing to do with it, nor his most staunch detractors. His potential replacement, Anthony, has nothing to do with it. His team-mates and coaches have nothing to do with it. What matters here is that the Rockets as an employer showed a fundamental lack of respect to an employee, Lin.


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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#557 » by MaxRider » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:35 pm

happy july 4th
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#558 » by Clincher » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:35 pm

choppermagic wrote:Lin should have stayed in NY, too bad they didnt even make an offer to him. I think for NBA-story sake, he would have been much better placed there. Everyone says the Rockets have a big Asian market, but for the general NBA, it seems he got lost there.

He would have but he decided to fight for more money by negotiating on the downlow and the 3rd year really stopped any chance of him getting his money.

Houston waived Lin before, I don't know why he is so surprised about any of this. They don't really care about him. He was beloved in New York, even got a standing ovation when he was with Houston in his return there.

Sucks he is getting treated like this but he blew a great opportunity to not only play where he is comfortable but to play where he can ring up just as much money endorsement wise and the place he got to show the world what he can do. Can't feel too bad about that.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#559 » by pass first » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:37 pm

Weird that this is by far the most discussed topic of the past 24 hrs here (and still going). We really need some LeBron-related news asap.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#560 » by playoffs » Thu Jul 3, 2014 10:46 pm

Man I don't get the hate so many Rockets fans have for Lin. I can understand hating a player that has disrespected your franchise or the fans, or plays selfish ball, but Lin has done none of those things.

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