Rookie Discussion Thread

JellosJigglin · Post #541 » by **JellosJigglin** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 3:46 pm

lilswift01 wrote:So is DLO worthy of being second pick or you guys would still go with Porzingis ?

Sample size is too small. Zinger can lock down the paint on defense and stretch the floor on offense. They don't call that a unicorn for nothing. It's hard to find.

What I like about Russell's game is it's built on intelligence and craftiness. One thing about successful PG's with his athleticism is that they all have a post game - Magic, Andre Miller, Kidd - and we're seeing that from Russell. It's rare to see such a young PG already finding success in the post, and the way he's able to seal off his man. He understands angles very well. Love the new offense that has him coming off screens more. He'll be a guy that can score from anywhere on the floor: post, midrange, 3.

I've said in this thread that KP is the only guy that made me 2nd guess the Russell pick. I think Russell has closed that gap. We won't know what these guys are capable of for years though. They're all so young and at least 5 years away from their primes.

Post #542 » by **Slava** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 4:15 pm

lilswift01 wrote:So is DLO worthy of being second pick or you guys would still go with Porzingis ?

Not much to choose but atleast the ridicule Lakers fans took for drafting Russell is looking mighty stupid. Porzingis started the season strong and is ending it with a whimper. Russell started poorly but he's finishing it excellently. Towns has set himself apart but from 2-4 I don't think there's much to pick for now and each fanbase is probably happy with their guy, which is how it should be.

Post #543 » by **Klomp** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 7:16 pm

t_smith979 wrote:I seriously can't believe that you're making the case of KAT being better than Wilt. KAT is going to be great but please.

I'm not. I'm trying to show that you can't just look at 38/27 and assume he was this unstoppable force that would wipe the floor with someone like Towns.

Hindenburg · Post #544 » by **Hindenburg** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 9:55 pm

Why is Zingis shooting so badly? For a 7'3 PF, 42% from the floor is horrendous. He is a pretty good FT shooter, why such a low percentage from the floor then?

driver · Post #545 » by **driver** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 10:29 pm

Hindenburg wrote:Why is Zingis shooting so badly? For a 7'3 PF, 42% from the floor is horrendous. He is a pretty good FT shooter, why such a low percentage from the floor then?

He needs to be a bit more selective on his shots and use his height advantage to increase his efficiency.

Also, I wonder why Russell is a good shooter but a 70% FT shooter.

Both of them have some offseason things to patch up.

Post #546 » by **Goudelock** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 11:37 pm

driver wrote:
Hindenburg wrote:Why is Zingis shooting so badly? For a 7'3 PF, 42% from the floor is horrendous. He is a pretty good FT shooter, why such a low percentage from the floor then?

He needs to be a bit more selective on his shots and use his height advantage to increase his efficiency.

Also, I wonder why Russell is a good shooter but a 70% FT shooter.

Both of them have some offseason things to patch up.

His mechanics from the FT line were garbage. He was shooting ten toes to the basket and his feet parallel to each other:

Contrast that with what his normal shot looks like, with one foot in front of the other:

He changed his stance at the line where one foot was in front of the other, like his natural jumpshot, during the game against the Dubs. It seems to be helping him, albeit with a small sample size (9-10 since the change).

Post #547 » by **Marcus** » Wed Mar 9, 2016 11:52 pm

PockyCandy wrote:
driver wrote:
Hindenburg wrote:Why is Zingis shooting so badly? For a 7'3 PF, 42% from the floor is horrendous. He is a pretty good FT shooter, why such a low percentage from the floor then?

He needs to be a bit more selective on his shots and use his height advantage to increase his efficiency.

Also, I wonder why Russell is a good shooter but a 70% FT shooter.

Both of them have some offseason things to patch up.

His mechanics from the FT line were garbage. He was shooting ten toes to the basket and his feet parallel to each other:

Contrast that with what his normal shot looks like, with one foot in front of the other:

He changed his stance at the line where one foot was in front of the other, like his natural jumpshot, during the game against the Dubs. It seems to be helping him, albeit with a small sample size (9-10 since the change).

Was just gonna mention his mechanics and how different one is than the other.

Gus McCrae · Post #548 » by **Gus McCrae** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:29 am

Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

Blackification · Post #549 » by **Blackification** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:36 am

Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

he has 20 at halftime tonight

TheHartBreakKid · Post #550 » by **TheHartBreakKid** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:58 am

Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

In a redraft, I feel like it's safe to say in most peoples top 5, the top four picks are pretty much a concsensus (meaning they would each go top five....not saying the order or if another player can't eclipse one of them) but regarding that fifth spot, I think Booker is definitely making a case for it. I think in terms of the eye test, combined with stats (For example Winslow looks very promising, I completely think he's going to be really good, but to make a case for him as top 5 as of right now would be hard to do with a single digit PER.)

I have a question; lets say Booker and Russell continue their current streaks, pretty much locking themselves into the guard spots for the all rookie teams. is there only one Center, and two forwards who will be selected, or three frontcourt player. And also, do SF and PF have their own spots, or can there be two PFS? Miles Turner may get snubbed if they only have two centers, and Okafor would also get snubbed for the first team, while a forward like Jojic, Johnson, or Winslow would get first team honors over him..

Gus McCrae · Post #551 » by **Gus McCrae** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:01 am

Blackification wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

he has 20 at halftime tonight

I can't believe he's taken 28 shots so far... Talk about a green light

TheHartBreakKid · Post #552 » by **TheHartBreakKid** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:03 am

Gus McCrae wrote:
Blackification wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

he has 20 at halftime tonight

I can't believe he's taken 28 shots so far... Talk about a green light

I think the roster and how he's performed justifies his green light.....I mean he's 14/28...impressive performance either way

Blackification · Post #553 » by **Blackification** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:05 am

Gus McCrae wrote:
Blackification wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

he has 20 at halftime tonight

I can't believe he's taken 28 shots so far... Talk about a green light

i want him to take more shots, he should take them all his teammates are trash

Post #554 » by **ATTL** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:07 am

Gus McCrae wrote:
Blackification wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

he has 20 at halftime tonight

I can't believe he's taken 28 shots so far... Talk about a green light

The rest of the team shooting under 40%, he was the only reason the game was even remotely in reach.

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saintEscaton · Post #555 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:07 am

Gus McCrae wrote:
Blackification wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:Booker is making a case for a top 4 rookie as well... He's definitely top 5

he has 20 at halftime tonight

I can't believe he's taken 28 shots so far... Talk about a green light

Whats remarkable is that he's shooting 50% on such a massive volume

gaspar · Post #556 » by **gaspar** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:09 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SunsBballComm/status/707779384355127297[/tweet]

Gus McCrae · Post #557 » by **Gus McCrae** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:12 am

Yeah 28 shots at 50% he's really damn good

saintEscaton · Post #558 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:20 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19CQlEEnd8[/youtube]

76ciology · Post #559 » by **76ciology** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:19 am

Hindenburg wrote:Why is Zingis shooting so badly? For a 7'3 PF, 42% from the floor is horrendous. He is a pretty good FT shooter, why such a low percentage from the floor then?

Too perimeter oriented. Poor finisher in the paint (0-3ft.)because of strength issue.

76ciology · Post #560 » by **76ciology** » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:20 am

With KP struggling and Okafor looking to miss the rest of the season, I won't be surprised if DLO overtakes them on the rookie ranking.