Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension

[celticfan42487]

Proud to be first on your list of quotes, but my post was/is not in any way toxic.

A different question:

With All-Star quality biggish wings in place, what are the Celtics looking to do to challenge the very top of the league and win a title? I think the fanbase is rightly enamored with Marcus Smart as a championship contributing role player, but what else needs to be done? I have my doubts that a team with a questionable center rotation and a defensively- (and size-) challenged PG can get it done. What's next?

Well realistically we may be stuck being the new version of Lillard/McCollum era Blazers (who have had some good players around those two over the years). Or around that.

But what can we hope to do:

-- Hope Kemba rebounds from an injury year to playing the equivalent of an 80 game season like he did the 4 seasons before last year. Then look to trade him for a mid 20s player that lines up with this core.

-- Hope to get lucky with draft picks (only thing you can really do).

There's no real financial leeway for a free agent signing, and we're not CA, FL, TX, or NY so we can't just have all-star to MVP players just decide they are going to come to our team no matter what to cheat the system. So it is what it is.

[AussieCeltic]

Proud to be first on your list of quotes, but my post was/is not in any way toxic.

A different question:

With All-Star quality biggish wings in place, what are the Celtics looking to do to challenge the very top of the league and win a title? I think the fanbase is rightly enamored with Marcus Smart as a championship contributing role player, but what else needs to be done? I have my doubts that a team with a questionable center rotation and a defensively- (and size-) challenged PG can get it done. What's next?

Well for one, you let the young guys grow and get better. This is an old mans league, young guys just don't win titles. MJ, Lebron, Shaq just to name a few, were 27 and older before winning their first chip.

So you let the Brown/Tatum pairing get better over time while trying to sure up the center position. 3x conference finals in 4 seasons including last year which was lead by that pairing means they're well on their way. The window is only just opening for these guys and I for one, am looking forward to what they can do in the next 5 years.

[PhilBlackson]

Didn't age well lol too bad can't see the names of who voted against.

[MagicBagley18]

Definitely an underpay in comparison to some of the other contracts given out recently; however, bumping a thread 15 months old for some revenge "ha-ha's" at posters, I included, for not having a crystal ball that can tell the future is...questionable--especially after only 16 games played into a new season.

Can you guys at least get out of the East first?

What does this have to do with getting out the East. The mere fact he's been to 3 conference finals in his first 4 seasons should show that his contract was worth it at the time. Name me any other player that's done that recently or ever.

The bump is because every one hates on the Celtics and in particular Danny Ainge for not trading for rentals of Kawhi/PG. Why can't we bump threads to show which posters are just haters? Why should we just sit back and take hate daily?

Maybe if we bumped old threads more consistently, we'd see a pattern emerging of the bad posters and obvious trolls. It might make some people actually think about what they're typing before hitting that submit button.

Eh...I somewhat get it...but a few things...

1) Not everyone hates the Celtics, and not every disagreement should be considered hate. Granted, there will always be some haters, but the reality is we're debating sports; it comes with the territory.
2) Consistently bumping old threads every time a poster is wrong about an old take is extremely excessive and silly, and for obvious reasons IMO.
3) Playing devil's advocate: It's early enough in the season (and Jaylen's contract) to provide trolls ample opportunities to hate every time the Celtics, or Jaylen, "fails." Again, back-and-forth bumping devalues the quality of any real discussion.
4) Unfortunately, nothing will make haters think twice about hitting the submit button.

Again, I was one of the posters wrong in my initial take. But just know that I will lock this thread if it's bumped to target Celtic fans in the future at inopportune moments (e.g., not making it out of the East).

Note: These thoughts are my own and won't prevent another mod from locking this bump from 2019 if they feel so inclined.

What does not making it out of the east have to do with jaylens contract being an over pay or not?

[DarkXaero]

I see that Celtics fans are really celebrating this with the notification alerts I've been getting. Good for them. At the time, Jaylen Brown was coming off a very subpar year, and since the extension, I think he has taken a leap that not even Celtics fans expected. Regardless, I was wrong on this, and I don't have a problem admitting that. Now I hope Celtics fans show the same courtesy when its time for them to admit they were wrong.

[infinite11285]

What does this have to do with getting out the East. The mere fact he's been to 3 conference finals in his first 4 seasons should show that his contract was worth it at the time. Name me any other player that's done that recently or ever.

The bump is because every one hates on the Celtics and in particular Danny Ainge for not trading for rentals of Kawhi/PG. Why can't we bump threads to show which posters are just haters? Why should we just sit back and take hate daily?

Maybe if we bumped old threads more consistently, we'd see a pattern emerging of the bad posters and obvious trolls. It might make some people actually think about what they're typing before hitting that submit button.

Eh...I somewhat get it...but a few things...

1) Not everyone hates the Celtics, and not every disagreement should be considered hate. Granted, there will always be some haters, but the reality is we're debating sports; it comes with the territory.
2) Consistently bumping old threads every time a poster is wrong about an old take is extremely excessive and silly, and for obvious reasons IMO.
3) Playing devil's advocate: It's early enough in the season (and Jaylen's contract) to provide trolls ample opportunities to hate every time the Celtics, or Jaylen, "fails." Again, back-and-forth bumping devalues the quality of any real discussion.
4) Unfortunately, nothing will make haters think twice about hitting the submit button.

Again, I was one of the posters wrong in my initial take. But just know that I will lock this thread if it's bumped to target Celtic fans in the future at inopportune moments (e.g., not making it out of the East).

Note: These thoughts are my own and won't prevent another mod from locking this bump from 2019 if they feel so inclined.

What does not making it out of the east have to do with jaylens contract being an over pay or not?

It has nothing to do with the contract being an overpay. I attempted to make the point of trolls using insignificant anecdotes, such as not making it out of the East, as ammunition to bump this thread again.

[MagicBagley18]

Eh...I somewhat get it...but a few things...

1) Not everyone hates the Celtics, and not every disagreement should be considered hate. Granted, there will always be some haters, but the reality is we're debating sports; it comes with the territory.
2) Consistently bumping old threads every time a poster is wrong about an old take is extremely excessive and silly, and for obvious reasons IMO.
3) Playing devil's advocate: It's early enough in the season (and Jaylen's contract) to provide trolls ample opportunities to hate every time the Celtics, or Jaylen, "fails." Again, back-and-forth bumping devalues the quality of any real discussion.
4) Unfortunately, nothing will make haters think twice about hitting the submit button.

Again, I was one of the posters wrong in my initial take. But just know that I will lock this thread if it's bumped to target Celtic fans in the future at inopportune moments (e.g., not making it out of the East).

Note: These thoughts are my own and won't prevent another mod from locking this bump from 2019 if they feel so inclined.

What does not making it out of the east have to do with jaylens contract being an over pay or not?

It has nothing to do with the contract being an overpay. I attempted to make the point of trolls using insignificant anecdotes, such as not making it out of the East, as ammunition to bump this thread again.

Weird it’s the same point you previously brought up....but that’s fine if they do let em troll, still doesn’t make that contract an over pay

[Ill News]

Did this just because I'm pretty and have a day off.

Wow. That's a lot. A whole lot.

Dear lord.

The guy hasn't even shown he's a legit starter.

How does one average 13ppg and command this much money?

Massive overpay and now is teetering on being a negative contract.

I was under the impression Danny Ainge was some masterful contract negotiator...no bueno.

Crazy overpay.

Crazy that it was that much more than Hield.


Makes the Siakam deal look good.

Stars dont wanna play in Boston so they gotta run their franchise as a small market team

Celtics will regret this.

Congrats on your Andrew Wiggins!

From 80 to 115, danny got pwned.

Last year stats to make 115 in 4:

13-4-1

13.5 PER

Wow, that's a terrible contract, the worst I've seen in a long time

Franchise crippling deal for an average player who shows no signs of being anything more than a solid starter.

Crazy this bum is getting paid only $15M less than Pascal. He is worth Hield money at best

He doesnt deserve more than Buddy money, no more than Aaron Gordon money, Lavine money, etc.

4/80 (like lavine and gordon I think) would have been the most i offered, or just match in RFA

With all things considered I will probably have LeVert before Jaylen.

a core of smart, brown and tatum.

Sounds great

Imagine saving all those assets just to give Jaylen 13ppg Brown almost 30m a year.

Comedy gold.

One of the dumbest moves in recent memory. Ainge has fallen far.

Can we stop pretending Ainge is any good now?

Oh hell yes, you're absolutely pretty for posting this

[SMTBSI]

Anyway, enough pettiness. I'll submit a tiny amount of actual content:

One thing I had said on our home board at the time was that this was really only a 4/107 contract, because if Brown got any of the incentives that could push it up to 115 (MVP, DPOY, All-NBA), then any doubt about whether he was worth it had already been retired.

4/107 isn't all that much less of a risk than 4/115, but it's something. Calling it a 4/115 for an unproven was a little bit of an overextension. The 107 was the gamble, the last 8 was basically risk free.

[MagicBagley18]

He’s paid as the 47th highest paid player btw for those keeping track at home and admittedly I’ve been not anywhere near as high on Jaylen as my fellow celtic fans and been wrong thus far

[AussieCeltic]

Did this just because I'm pretty and have a day off.

Wow. That's a lot. A whole lot.

Dear lord.

The guy hasn't even shown he's a legit starter.

How does one average 13ppg and command this much money?

Massive overpay and now is teetering on being a negative contract.

I was under the impression Danny Ainge was some masterful contract negotiator...no bueno.

Crazy overpay.

Crazy that it was that much more than Hield.


Makes the Siakam deal look good.

Stars dont wanna play in Boston so they gotta run their franchise as a small market team

Celtics will regret this.

Congrats on your Andrew Wiggins!

From 80 to 115, danny got pwned.

Last year stats to make 115 in 4:

13-4-1

13.5 PER

Wow, that's a terrible contract, the worst I've seen in a long time

Franchise crippling deal for an average player who shows no signs of being anything more than a solid starter.

Crazy this bum is getting paid only $15M less than Pascal. He is worth Hield money at best

He doesnt deserve more than Buddy money, no more than Aaron Gordon money, Lavine money, etc.

4/80 (like lavine and gordon I think) would have been the most i offered, or just match in RFA

With all things considered I will probably have LeVert before Jaylen.

a core of smart, brown and tatum.

Sounds great

Imagine saving all those assets just to give Jaylen 13ppg Brown almost 30m a year.

Comedy gold.

One of the dumbest moves in recent memory. Ainge has fallen far.

Can we stop pretending Ainge is any good now?

Oh hell yes, you're absolutely pretty for posting this

Haha wow. I thought you had changed that!

[Mavrelous]

Jaylen doesn't understand what contract year means, you're supposed to ball out of your mind BEFORE signing a contract!!!!

[Saint Lazarus]

Proud to be first on your list of quotes, but my post was/is not in any way toxic.

A different question:

With All-Star quality biggish wings in place, what are the Celtics looking to do to challenge the very top of the league and win a title? I think the fanbase is rightly enamored with Marcus Smart as a championship contributing role player, but what else needs to be done? I have my doubts that a team with a questionable center rotation and a defensively- (and size-) challenged PG can get it done. What's next?

Well realistically we may be stuck being the new version of Lillard/McCollum era Blazers (who have had some good players around those two over the years). Or around that.

But what can we hope to do:

-- Hope Kemba rebounds from an injury year to playing the equivalent of an 80 game season like he did the 4 seasons before last year. Then look to trade him for a mid 20s player that lines up with this core.

-- Hope to get lucky with draft picks (only thing you can really do).

There's no real financial leeway for a free agent signing, and we're not CA, FL, TX, or NY so we can't just have all-star to MVP players just decide they are going to come to our team no matter what to cheat the system. So it is what it is.

In 2 years...

[FNQ]

Man the GB really goes after the Celtics a lot

[GSP]

Woat Realgm poll. I wish we could see the voters

Realgmers said Jaylen was overpaid and overrated.

Now its arguably the biggest steal of a contract in the league

[Saint Lazarus]

Man the GB really goes after the Celtics a lot

I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but as a Celtics fan, this is how I generally feel. But then Celtics fans have been told many times on the GB that it's just us our feeling, and most of the criticism is fair.

[FNQ]

Man the GB really goes after the Celtics a lot

I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but as a Celtics fan, this is how I generally feel. But then Celtics fans have been told many times on the GB that it's just us our feeling, and most of the criticism is fair.

not joking at all. Everytime something happens in the league, there's a thread about why the Celtics didnt do that thing. Feel like there's a "Why didnt the Celtics sign Marcus Semien, lulz Ainge" thread coming any day now

[TheSheriff]

Wow. This is a bad contract only because it is not five years.

[Ill News]

Man the GB really goes after the Celtics a lot

I don't know if you're being facetious or not, but as a Celtics fan, this is how I generally feel. But then Celtics fans have been told many times on the GB that it's just us our feeling, and most of the criticism is fair.

not joking at all. Everytime something happens in the league, there's a thread about why the Celtics didnt do that thing. Feel like there's a "Why didnt the Celtics sign Marcus Semien, lulz Ainge" thread coming any day now

This all goes back to the massive haul that Ainge got from the Brooklyn trade. It pales in comparison now to the haul that OKC got for PG13, but back then it caused the media to keep speculating that Ainge would be able to pull off another league-altering trade like he did when he assembled the Big 3 of KG, Allen, and Pierce. So whenever a star was unhappy with his team, Ainge with his war chest of picks was always seen as one of the favorites to trade for that star. It's been said that his long game was always Anthony Davis until Klutch manipulated him to the Lakers, but he still did well with his Plan B of drafting the next stars for the C's, Tatum and Brown.

He's basically become a meme at this point. If Ainge manages to surround Tatum and Brown with the perfect cast and the Celtics become a dominant team, people will still be ridiculing him if he didn't blow the team up and trade for an unhappy star in that season.

[FlatearthZorro]

Proud to be first on your list of quotes, but my post was/is not in any way toxic.

A different question:

With All-Star quality biggish wings in place, what are the Celtics looking to do to challenge the very top of the league and win a title? I think the fanbase is rightly enamored with Marcus Smart as a championship contributing role player, but what else needs to be done? I have my doubts that a team with a questionable center rotation and a defensively- (and size-) challenged PG can get it done. What's next?

A vet big and a wing, who can be solid on D and make a shot here and there on offense would be ideal.