[WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind

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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#542 » by lazybatman » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:44 pm

Nets getting Harden while keeping Harris is a great deal. The obvious volatile ego dynamics amongst their stars aside, this is a great deal.

KD's just made this kinda shameless ring chasing the new norm now I guess.
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Post#543 » by Yinwest » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:45 pm

DNP - Old wrote:Does Kyrie think Harden's belly is round or flat?

Underrated comment.
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Post#544 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:46 pm

metalinguss wrote:
TrustFundBaby wrote:Instant Eastern championship favorites.


They were favorites even before this trade.
Why were they 6 and 6

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Post#545 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:46 pm

Brooklyn did this again?!! 6 years of picks? Some people, you just can't reach.
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Post#546 » by Edrees » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:48 pm

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Yeah well they may score 220 points a game.


That might be true in regular season but in a best of 7 series your offense won't be there every night.

they gave up a bunch of role players for one of the best players of all time and this is your train of thought? you don't have to be a contrarian about everything.


I'm not trying to be a contrarian, nor am I denying that they will be a good team and have upgraded. I just think they have a huge weakness in defense.
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Post#547 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:52 pm

metalinguss wrote:
TrustFundBaby wrote:Instant Eastern championship favorites.


They were favorites even before this trade.

Not without Dinwiddie, and especially not without Kyrie.

The Nets have no idea when Kyrie is coming back (if ever). The Nets were always in need of a lengthy 3&D player. After the trade, they still need one and now have new holes to fill in a quality rebounding center and backup PG. I expect Marks to continue to make moves.
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Post#548 » by gmoney411 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:52 pm

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inquisitive wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie gets moved before trade deadline.


Who would want him?


See that is the beauty of the NBA; you can sit out games, whine, cry, complain about the team and owners and they'll always be some some team willing to trade for you or hand you a max contract.


Maybe. But Kyrie is on the team he just chose with the teammate he chose. They were playing great basketball and he suddenly just dips. What situation does he want to be in?
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Post#549 » by bb22 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:53 pm

Wow Nets killed this one. Easily the team with best scoring trio in NBA history.

KD can fit in and do his thing on any team, but Harden and Kyrie together will be awkward. I know they’ve played together on team USA and are good friends, so I expect it to work out, but when things get tough and the fingers start pointing... watch out!
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Post#550 » by jwise44 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:55 pm

Someone please tell me how to feel. I am a crazy mix of emotions as a rockets fan
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Post#551 » by slickrickstyles » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:58 pm

Openheimer wrote:In the warship it was oladipo and picks for harden?



As a Pacers fan that is what it feels like...which is crazy
Once they have that golden shining moment and it comes to them in a dream or whatever and they understand that, that's when this team and this franchise will go to another level from where it was when I was here.

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Post#552 » by gabri3l3 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:58 pm

levon wrote:
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Demagoog wrote:Looking at it from a Laker perspective, I would love for the Nets running long stretches with Durant at Center, because Davis would have a field day.


I actually can't think of anyone better than Durant to make life difficult for Davis and on the other hand Davis stands little chance against KD with the ball in his hands up top

Huh? I can't think of anyone better to guard KD than AD. Conversely, are you gonna have Durant at the 5 getting bruised by a big team putting pressure on the rim? Who guards Lebron James? Who's making rotations to the other guys on the floor for the Lakers? Harden definitely isn't going to be hauling ass for that.

This reminds me of a supercharged, logical conclusion to the Rockets, except with this added wrinkle of Kyrie fitting in. Yet the Lakers have proven they can absolutely feast on smallball. The Nets should hope they get the Clippers honestly.


Bruised by who ? So you're gonna a keep big on the floor with Durant at the 5? Suicide
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Post#553 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:59 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Brooklyn did this again?!! 6 years of picks? Some people, you just can't reach.


For Harden, it’s a trade most teams make. This is a bad trade for Houston. They should have kept Allen and Levert or traded for better pieces.

Houston is a mess.

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Post#554 » by israelfirst » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:59 pm

horrible trade for the nets. kyrie and harden is a **** backcourt. this will flop
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Post#555 » by Roy The Natural » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:00 am

jwise44 wrote:Someone please tell me how to feel. I am a crazy mix of emotions as a rockets fan


I'd be pissed. This is an awful deal for you guys. It has as much of a chance of netting you absolutely nothing worth anything as it does netting you something useful.

People keep saying that these picks 5 years from now could be worth something. However, 5 years from now it's quite plausible the Nets re-tool in FA, being a New York franchise that doesn't seem to be perpetually making the worst moves ever.

This deal has a high liklihood of getting the Rockets absolutely nothing of value. Exum and Oladipo are straight salary dumps at the end of the year. The obvious hope is that the Rockets are hoping they can flip Oladipo at the deadline for another 1st rounder, but it's just bad all around. Terrible for Houston.
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Post#556 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:00 am

jwise44 wrote:Someone please tell me how to feel. I am a crazy mix of emotions as a rockets fan


Feel good about it. It doesn't get better than that. Now hope one of them bail in a year or two and you're the Celtics again.
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Post#557 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:01 am

Didn't Kyrie originally leave the Cavs because he wanted to prove he could be "the guy" on a Championship team?

Now he's the third best player on his team.
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Post#558 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:02 am

Btw.. what's most important here thats not being discussed yet...just how close was Danny Ainge again this time?
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Post#559 » by kamazilla » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:05 am

Formidable team on paper. But the game is played on the hardwood and I don't like the fit of the players nor the personalities. Don't see them getting stronger in the face of adversity– in fact quite the opposite. I'll take Miami over the Paper Tigers in a playoff series.

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Post#560 » by levon » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:07 am

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I actually can't think of anyone better than Durant to make life difficult for Davis and on the other hand Davis stands little chance against KD with the ball in his hands up top

Huh? I can't think of anyone better to guard KD than AD. Conversely, are you gonna have Durant at the 5 getting bruised by a big team putting pressure on the rim? Who guards Lebron James? Who's making rotations to the other guys on the floor for the Lakers? Harden definitely isn't going to be hauling ass for that.

This reminds me of a supercharged, logical conclusion to the Rockets, except with this added wrinkle of Kyrie fitting in. Yet the Lakers have proven they can absolutely feast on smallball. The Nets should hope they get the Clippers honestly.


Bruised by who ? So you're gonna a keep big on the floor with Durant at the 5? Suicide

There isn't a team in the league that puts more pressure on the rim than the Lakers. They're bigger than most teams at almost every position, and Lebron and AD are coming for the rim every time.

AD ends up guarding the top of the key 3 and is catching the cross-court pass to finish it or go to the line on the other end.

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