Nikola Jokic wins MVP(again)

Freighttrain · Post #541 » by **Freighttrain** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:46 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another former player. A well respected one as well.

A well respected one?

One of the only players ever that literally got run out of San Antonio.

We really reaching

From the moment you attack the person and not the argument you're already lost.

rapstarter · Post #542 » by **rapstarter** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:46 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Another former player. A well respected one as well.

In what universe is Stephen Jackson a well respected former player?

Media hates him, his peers love him.

They don't hate him. Dude's a great player who most likely finished 2nd in MVP voting. They just happen to be smarter than the likes of Antoine Walker and Stephen Jackson

eyeatoma · Post #543 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:47 pm

Sharkboy242 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another former player. A well respected one as well.

damn bro I really thought you would come to accept the mvp results and leave it at that

I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see you all over this thread throwing the same tantrums you did all season

Lol, this was a travesty, and the fix was in from the media. I'd have relented if players also agreed that Jokic was the MVP. They didn't, because they see the truth.

This was one of the most agenda driven MVPs in recent memory. History will look back at what a mistake this was.

eyeatoma · Post #544 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:47 pm

rapstarter wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:In what universe is Stephen Jackson a well respected former player?

Media hates him, his peers love him.

They don't hate him. Dude's a great player who most likely finished 2nd in MVP voting. They just happen to be smarter than the likes of Antoine Walker and Stephen Jackson

Talking about Stephen Jackson.

Sharkboy242 · Post #545 » by **Sharkboy242** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:48 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Sharkboy242 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another former player. A well respected one as well.

damn bro I really thought you would come to accept the mvp results and leave it at that

I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see you all over this thread throwing the same tantrums you did all season

Lol, this was a travesty, and the fix was in from the media. I'd have relented if players also agreed that Jokic was the MVP. They didn't, because they see the truth.

This was one of the most agenda driven MVPs in recent memory. History will look back at what a mistake this was.

Doubling down and going full cope mode. I thought you were better than this.

Cubbies2120 · Post #546 » by **Cubbies2120** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:48 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Narrative, Embiid went through far worse **** and drama than Jokic, and had an all-time season.

Far worse **** like throwing his teammate under the bus, while said teammate was battling back issues that eventually required surgery.

I would think that Embiid of all people would understand how serious some injuries can be, given that he sat out 2.5 of the first 3 seasons of his career...where was the sympathy ?

Poor Embiid, had to play a full 45 games without getting Harden :/

#FirstWorldProblems

Lol your dedication to this false narrative is admirable. But you know what I gotta say?

it's your favorite line, rent free bro.

Meanwhile, you unblocked me I see :lol:

Here we sit, in a Jokic thread, instead of celebrating the 2x MVP we're over here spitting subjective opinions and hypotheticals instead of actual facts

Aaaaaaandddd stiiiiiiillllll #MVP

Hobo4President · Post #547 » by **Hobo4President** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:49 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Sharkboy242 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another former player. A well respected one as well.

damn bro I really thought you would come to accept the mvp results and leave it at that

I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see you all over this thread throwing the same tantrums you did all season

Lol, this was a travesty, and the fix was in from the media. I'd have relented if players also agreed that Jokic was the MVP. They didn't, because they see the truth.

This was one of the most agenda driven MVPs in recent memory. History will look back at what a mistake this was.

What was the agenda?

BelgradeNugget · Post #548 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:49 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
BelgradeNugget wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:
He played in a tougher conference, so them being the 3rd seed compared to a weaker western conference as everyone alluded to should matter? Or doesn't it matter now? I'm getting confused.

And yes I think he would give the Warriors way more problems. Also, putting player x on team y and vice versa when both teams are specifically designed with players to be put around your skills doesn't work for your little soliloquy. Also if he wasn't a 6th seed he wouldn't have to play the Warriors, but the Nuggets were terrible and therefor had to play them.

How was east tougher this year, I don't know where did you get it. I know as Lakers fan you probably didn't follow NBA this season, but west was better again.

Everything to protect your boy I guess

No, west was really better in lost season for your team. Had 3 best teams in the NBA, of off 13 best teams in the NBA 7 are from the west. Where did you get the idea east was better? Some Clippers fans that actually watched NBA this season told you so? Well he fooled you... :lol:

Franco · Post #549 » by **Franco** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:50 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
Franco wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Against these Warriors? Really?

Obviously. Prime Shaq was an absolute monster, who the hell could possibly beat him in 5 or swe-

... well that is awkward.

Against these "Warriors". Why are you talking about them as if they're the Hampton 5 or their previous iteration in 2014-2016 with the death lineup with prime Iggy. Stop it. Their defense is miles away from the death line up and the Hampton 5 was the only juggernaut. This Golden State team is very good, but not great, let alone all time

Jokic might be literally willing to throw Will Barton into a pit of lava to have a teammate like Kobe or Penny playing with him, who Shaq had for all of those series. These Warriors might very well win it all, but even if they don't, Shaq's supporting cast was significantly better so the point still stands :lol:

Bergmaniac · Post #550 » by **Bergmaniac** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:50 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Another former player. A well respected one as well.

In what universe is Stephen Jackson a well respected former player?

Media hates him, his peers love him.

Are you sure about that? IIRC he fought with most of his teammates in San Antonio and is a well known knucklehead.He is also known for antisemitism and getting in trouble with the law, but who cares, right, as long as he praises your hero...

eyeatoma · Post #551 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:50 pm

Both Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry referred to Joel Embiid as the MVP. The list continues to grow. Are we going to question their intelligence as well? Raptors fans adore Kyle Lowry, and Jimmy Butler is very well respected.

Media's advanced stats MVP: Jokic
The People's MVP: Joel Embiid

Freighttrain · Post #552 » by **Freighttrain** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:50 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
losmi wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:
Being a first-round exit team in back-to-back season as the back-to-back MVP is just tragic. We knew the Nuggets were bad, so why give it to Jokic? The argument he made that team is good is nonsense. They got a gentlemen's sweep in the first round. How is that any good? Congratz you're the 16th best team out of 32. He took a bad team and made them average. Any superstar can do that. Embiid is still in the playoffs and we see how big his impact is. "oh but he has a great supporting cast, Jokic doesn't". The Sixers were down 0-2 with that great cast until Embiid played again and now we're questioning Miami because of Embiid. Are we going to give him the MVP next year too if the analytics say he's as good a defender as Embiid? He had the highest PER or top 3 ever. Boy did that turn into playoff wins. Ugh.

I didn't mind him winning it the first time. But being a back-to-back MVP is special. Going out of the first round and pretending it's "just a regular-season award" is bogus. Other factors play a part too such as playoff success or narrative. Winning back to back should always lead to some success in the playoffs. At least make it out of the first round. It diminishes the MVP even more because people will barely remember what season he had because he didn't even make it past April. Or they will remember it because of that fact. It's just tragic.

The bolded is not true, you don't even care to know the facts.

And the only "tragic" loss in past two playoffs was that to ATL. It's comical how Embiid's fans pretend he is some winner.

Making the second round is basically a championship in Philadelphia.

And winning one ring in your franchise with a rental superstar who didn't even want to be there suddenly makes you an expert in winning. The raptors previously got bounced so hard out of the playoff on consecutive years that they start calling LBJ LeBronto from the PTSD.

Raps in 4 · Post #553 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:51 pm

eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another former player. A well respected one as well.

Read on Twitter

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Bruin · Post #554 » by **Bruin** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:51 pm

The levels of copium from some posters is WILD. When a player wins a vote out of 100 media members you would think the player actually deserved the award. But no, just cause some Philly fans have their own bias, they will say literally anything to complain about this

Stephen Jackson and Antoine Walker lol. I’m sure you can find plenty of examples who agree that Jokic won mvp but the Philly posters will definitely not post that cause of their agendas

Raps in 4 · Post #555 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:52 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
losmi wrote:
The bolded is not true, you don't even care to know the facts.

And the only "tragic" loss in past two playoffs was that to ATL. It's comical how Embiid's fans pretend he is some winner.

Making the second round is basically a championship in Philadelphia.

And winning one ring in your franchise with a rental superstar who didn't even want to be there suddenly makes you an expert in winning. The raptors previously got bounced so hard out of the playoff on consecutive years that they start calling LBJ LeBronto from the PTSD.

At least Derozan and Lowry managed to get past the second round, unlike Embiid.

Freighttrain · Post #556 » by **Freighttrain** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:52 pm

Franco wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:
Franco wrote:
Obviously. Prime Shaq was an absolute monster, who the hell could possibly beat him in 5 or swe-

... well that is awkward.

Against these "Warriors". Why are you talking about them as if they're the Hampton 5 or their previous iteration in 2014-2016 with the death lineup with prime Iggy. Stop it. Their defense is miles away from the death line up and the Hampton 5 was the only juggernaut. This Golden State team is very good, but not great, let alone all time

Jokic might be literally willing to throw Will Barton into a pit of lava to have a teammate like Kobe or Penny playing with him, who Shaq had for all of those series. These Warriors might very well win it all, but even if they don't, Shaq's supporting cast was significantly better so the point still stands

OP Calls it "these warriors" as if they're all time. They're not. They're a great team, not all-time. Stop this nonsense

Sharkboy242 · Post #557 » by **Sharkboy242** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:52 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Both Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry referred to Joel Embiid as the MVP. The list continues to grow. Are we going to question their intelligence as well? Raptors fans adore Kyle Lowry, and Jimmy Butler is very well respected.

Media's advanced stats MVP: Jokic
The People's MVP: Joel Embiid

Hobo4President · Post #558 » by **Hobo4President** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:53 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Both Jimmy Butler and Kyle Lowry referred to Joel Embiid as the MVP. The list continues to grow. Are we going to question their intelligence as well? Raptors fans adore Kyle Lowry, and Jimmy Butler is very well respected.

Media's advanced stats MVP: Jokic
The People's MVP: Joel Embiid

Hey, buddy, can you stop having a weird parasocial mental breakdown and answer the question? What agenda?

Cubbies2120 · Post #559 » by **Cubbies2120** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:53 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another former player. A well respected one as well.

A well respected one?

One of the only players ever that literally got run out of San Antonio.

We really reaching

From the moment you attack the person and not the argument you're already lost.

His whole argument was that Jokic shouldn't win REGULAR SEASON MVP because his team doesn't have a chance to win the Championship. Do I really need to attack that argument?

Also forgive me for not taking seriously a guy who supports anti-Semitic views while also championing equality.

Freighttrain · Post #560 » by **Freighttrain** » Mon May 9, 2022 9:53 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Making the second round is basically a championship in Philadelphia.

And winning one ring in your franchise with a rental superstar who didn't even want to be there suddenly makes you an expert in winning. The raptors previously got bounced so hard out of the playoff on consecutive years that they start calling LBJ LeBronto from the PTSD.

At least Derozan and Lowry managed to get past the second round, unlike Embiid.

Wait so now you're using that same second-round logic you blasted Sixers fans for? So consistent