Victor Wembanyama Mega-Thread Part Two: Repurposed for your Wembanyama needs!

[Bornstellar]

Looking very impressive so far vs the bulls. Spurs might actually win a basketball game.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I don't know what Popovich is doing, he took Collins out of the starting 5 but reinserted Sochan at point. Theres just nothing Sochan brings to the table at PG that is beneficial, he's not building reps into a secondary playmaker or anything, hes not aggressive with the ball and can't drive or shoot. Just confusing.

[RRR3]

Their defense is hideous and they play stupidly on offense and the rotations are mindbogglingly bad and they STILL won't start a point guard or even play a point guard with Wemby consistently. Pop is the problem. This team would be bad with any coach, but they shouldn't be Pistons level after adding Wemby.

[G R E Y]

I don't know what Popovich is doing, he took Collins out of the starting 5 but reinserted Sochan at point. Theres just nothing Sochan brings to the table at PG that is beneficial, he's not building reps into a secondary playmaker or anything, hes not aggressive with the ball and can't drive or shoot. Just confusing.

Sochan was guarding the 1 on D but was the 4 on O.

[G R E Y]

Their defense is hideous and they play stupidly on offense and the rotations are mindbogglingly bad and they STILL won't start a point guard or even play a point guard with Wemby consistently. Pop is the problem. This team would be bad with any coach, but they shouldn't be Pistons level after adding Wemby.

This is a Wemby thread. Wemby had a historic night. Tre Jones had the most bringing up the ball possessions, and plenty of them with Wemby. This isn't the take it may seem like it is.

[bravor]

Wemby started at C for this game.

20 rebounds, 4 blocks, 1 turnover with 4 assists.

Took only 3 3s..


C is his best spot.

I respectfully disagree. From our own experience here, he always had the biggest impact when he could pair with a center doing the dirty job. At least if the goal is to win basketball games.

At best, he can play at the 5 against reserve and/or small ball line up, otherwise it's just a receipe for a disaster (risks, results, manner).

[WestGOAT]

21 points on 20 shots, yuck, not to mention -22

[FrodoBaggins]

Here's how Victor's season averages would look with the threes removed. He's such a terrible shot from three.

- 15.1 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.7 bpg, 3.3 topg
- 50.9% FG, 57.0% TS, 81.8% FT

Here's what his shot profile/distribution looks like with the threes removed:

0-3 feet: 34.5% of FGAs
3-10 feet: 27.4% of FGAs
10-16 feet: 19.4% of FGAs
16+ feet: 18.6% of FGAs

Cut out the threes and focus on the mid-range shot. Add size, strength, and power while maintaining flexibility, fluidity, and a lean and athletic body fat percentage. An extra 25-30 pounds within 3-5 seasons will allow him to get an extra 3-4 easy shots near the rim per game that he's currently not due to subpar physical strength and conditioning. Continue to develop toward a 40-45%+ mid-range shot. Play more physically and aggressively to draw more fouls.

Victor is currently shooting 71.7% on shots from 0-5 feet. 4 more of those shots a game at 71.7% FG = 2.87 field goals made x 2 = 5.74 points + 1.27 points from 1.56 free throws (I removed the threes to find the 2pt free-throw rate) = 7 points added to 15.1 ppg = 22.1 ppg on 61.7% TS.

A bigger Anthony Davis seems more and more like the most realistic player comparison. An elite mid-range shot (45%+) will take his game to another level and add a tonne of situational value (in the clutch, late in the shot clock/on broken plays)

[Special_Puppy]

Wemby is doing well. His DPM is clearly positive. His EPM is positive. These are quite good impact signals for a 19 year old rookie. The problem is that Chet is probably having the most impactful rookie season since Nikola Jokic

[zimpy27]

Here's how Victor's season averages would look with the threes removed. He's such a terrible shot from three.

- 15.1 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.7 bpg, 3.3 topg
- 50.9% FG, 57.0% TS, 81.8% FT

Here's what his shot profile/distribution looks like with the threes removed:

0-3 feet: 34.5% of FGAs
3-10 feet: 27.4% of FGAs
10-16 feet: 19.4% of FGAs
16+ feet: 18.6% of FGAs

Cut out the threes and focus on the mid-range shot. Add size, strength, and power while maintaining flexibility, fluidity, and a lean and athletic body fat percentage. An extra 25-30 pounds within 3-5 seasons will allow him to get an extra 3-4 easy shots near the rim per game that he's currently not due to subpar physical strength and conditioning. Continue to develop toward a 40-45%+ mid-range shot. Play more physically and aggressively to draw more fouls.

Victor is currently shooting 71.7% on shots from 0-5 feet. 4 more of those shots a game at 71.7% FG = 2.87 field goals made x 2 = 5.74 points + 1.27 points from 1.56 free throws (I removed the threes to find the 2pt free-throw rate) = 7 points added to 15.1 ppg = 22.1 ppg on 61.7% TS.

A bigger Anthony Davis seems more and more like the most realistic player comparison. An elite mid-range shot (45%+) will take his game to another level and add a tonne of situational value (in the clutch, late in the shot clock/on broken plays)

Davis was his best comp coming in but didn't expect him to love the 3 this much. Will see how he progresses.

Do you think he will ever be as strong as Davis?

[Special_Puppy]

If Wemby doesn't develop into a good 3 point shooter (37% on long time spans) and doesn't develop into a good passer then that pretty severely limits his offensive upside. Would have to develop into an absolute killer in the paint like Giannis is.

[Rust_Cohle]

Youngest player ever to have a 20-20 game

[Bum Adebayo]

If Wemby doesn't develop into a good 3 point shooter (37% on long time spans) and doesn't develop into a good passer then that pretty severely limits his offensive upside. Would have to develop into an absolute killer in the paint like Giannis is.

Well Embiid also fits this criteria (mediocre 3pt shooter, mediocre passer previous seasons), and he was the first player ever (I think) to average 33+ PPG and 65%+ TS at the same time.
He has good enough things elsewhere to not depend on the 3pt shooting, the touch and speed is there to focus more on midrange shooting + face up if he has issues with 3pt distance, coupled with his elite defensive profile, the 3pt shooting may just need to be a threat but not a considerable part of his game.

[FrodoBaggins]

Here's how Victor's season averages would look with the threes removed. He's such a terrible shot from three.

- 15.1 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.7 bpg, 3.3 topg
- 50.9% FG, 57.0% TS, 81.8% FT

Here's what his shot profile/distribution looks like with the threes removed:

0-3 feet: 34.5% of FGAs
3-10 feet: 27.4% of FGAs
10-16 feet: 19.4% of FGAs
16+ feet: 18.6% of FGAs

Cut out the threes and focus on the mid-range shot. Add size, strength, and power while maintaining flexibility, fluidity, and a lean and athletic body fat percentage. An extra 25-30 pounds within 3-5 seasons will allow him to get an extra 3-4 easy shots near the rim per game that he's currently not due to subpar physical strength and conditioning. Continue to develop toward a 40-45%+ mid-range shot. Play more physically and aggressively to draw more fouls.

Victor is currently shooting 71.7% on shots from 0-5 feet. 4 more of those shots a game at 71.7% FG = 2.87 field goals made x 2 = 5.74 points + 1.27 points from 1.56 free throws (I removed the threes to find the 2pt free-throw rate) = 7 points added to 15.1 ppg = 22.1 ppg on 61.7% TS.

A bigger Anthony Davis seems more and more like the most realistic player comparison. An elite mid-range shot (45%+) will take his game to another level and add a tonne of situational value (in the clutch, late in the shot clock/on broken plays)

Davis was his best comp coming in but didn't expect him to love the 3 this much. Will see how he progresses.

Do you think he will ever be as strong as Davis?

Not sure. He has responded well to strength and conditioning in his short time with San Antonio. Added 15 pounds between draft night and training camp. He looked visibly bigger and with more muscle tone on opening night than he did in the Summer League.

I'm certain he weighs more than Gobert did at the same age, who was 235 pound at 21 years old on 2013 draft night. Gobert is now 258+ pounds. Victor getting up to 255-260 pounds in realistic IMO.

Victor Wembanyama says he has put on about 15 pounds since draft night. The Spurs listed him at 230 pounds at the start of training camp. “My conditioning and physical condition are way, way better than any time in my life,” Wembanyama said.

[FrodoBaggins]

I like how Victor looks at the center position. He's got too much size not to be playing the five. It puts him in the middle of the court and closest to the action and rim at all times. Still jacked up too many threes but we can live with that for now.

Averages after two games as a center:

- 18 ppg, 19 rpg, 4.5 bpg

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[FrodoBaggins]

[GrandTheftRondo]

Wemby is doing well. His DPM is clearly positive. His EPM is positive. These are quite good impact signals for a 19 year old rookie. The problem is that Chet is probably having the most impactful rookie season since Nikola Jokic

Why is it a problem that Chet is having an amazing rookie season?

The dude sat out a year and has spent a year around the NBA getting accustomed. Like with Simmons and Embiid, this clearly can be a big benefit and makes them way more ready to go than the rookies going straight into rookie games

[zimpy27]

Wemby is suited to the C.

He can be Gobert like already. Can add his jumper with time.

[Frankie]

Sengun struggled big time against him last night. It was his worst game of the season, offensively speaking.

[User_friendly]

Wemby is doing well. His DPM is clearly positive. His EPM is positive. These are quite good impact signals for a 19 year old rookie. The problem is that Chet is probably having the most impactful rookie season since Nikola Jokic

How impactful Jokic rookie season was?