Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic

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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#541 » by The Servant » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:11 am

infinite11285 wrote:
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Also, per dictionary.com, directly under the definition you cited above.



Several posters defending its use in this thread have made racially offensive posts in the past on this forum. That's why I suggested avoiding using the word altogether in an offensive context. So please, let's not pretend that some folks don't know exactly what they're doing here.


Ok, give me an accurate word to use to describe someone who is lawless, violent, and commits assault. You are the one who wants to control our language, and you're a mod, so provide me a word that sums up those things and I'll use it.

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Donkey, idiot, jackass, instigator, a headache, etc. The English language contains thousands of other nouns that can describe Draymond, and being adamant about using one particular noun is incredibly frustrating. Simply trying to moderate a discussion from turning into a dumpster fire shouldn't result in attacks on my character.

And Draymond Green was not charged with a crime. The NBA will be responsible for handing down a fair punishment, so please do not try to twist the incident into a criminal act that did not happen to support your argument.


Lmao at pretending it wasn't assault on Jordan Poole. Btw this one didn't happen on court:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2723687-draymond-greens-alleged-assault-victim-says-he-wakes-up-crying-after-incident.amp.html

How many people do you have to punch in the face before you can be called a thug? How many people do you have to knock unconscious? He's at 3 so far in the past 6 years.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#542 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:15 am

1) There are people in this thread diminishing his past accomplishments. Draymond was historically good and an incredibly unique player.
2) With each offense, he is becoming further indefensible. A 15-game suspension with the awareness that this is the floor for future suspensions would be fair.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#543 » by davey_wavy » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:20 am

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infinite11285 wrote:
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Ok, give me an accurate word to use to describe someone who is lawless, violent, and commits assault. You are the one who wants to control our language, and you're a mod, so provide me a word that sums up those things and I'll use it.

Go.


Donkey, idiot, jackass, instigator, a headache, etc. The English language contains thousands of other nouns that can describe Draymond, and being adamant about using one particular noun is incredibly frustrating. Simply trying to moderate a discussion from turning into a dumpster fire shouldn't result in attacks on my character.

And Draymond Green was not charged with a crime. The NBA will be responsible for handing down a fair punishment, so please do not try to twist the incident into a criminal act that did not happen to support your argument.


Lmao at pretending it wasn't assault on Jordan Poole. Btw this one didn't happen on court:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2723687-draymond-greens-alleged-assault-victim-says-he-wakes-up-crying-after-incident.amp.html

How many people do you have to punch in the face before you can be called a thug? How many people do you have to knock unconscious? He's at 3 so far in the past 6 years.


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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#544 » by zzaj » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:22 am

FlyingArrow wrote:Suspensions should come with a 20% playoff penalty.

5 game suspension = 5 regular season games + 1 playoff game
25 game suspension = 25 regular season games + 5 playoff games

Since nobody cares about the regular season anyway.


I kinda like this concept. I don't know about the % portion, but I think handing out an additional PO penalty should an offenders team make the POs, is a great idea. Punish the team for an individual's conduct. Nothing will make a person stop stupid behavior faster than this--like the military--unless draymond is actually struggling with delusional/anger issues, which he very well could be.

For Draymond and his long history, I would love to see a 10 game regular season suspension and 2 game PO suspension (switching to 5 additional games next season if GSW doesn't make the POs) and an additional 5 games from the GSW as a show that they condemn this type history of on court behavior.

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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#545 » by yannisk » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:24 am

infinite11285 wrote:
And Draymond Green was not charged with a crime. The NBA will be responsible for handing down a fair punishment, so please do not try to twist the incident into a criminal act that did not happen to support your argument.


He is not charged with a crime, that's true. But if I go to play basketball (or do any other activity) and somebody punches me without a reason I consider it a criminal act. What about you?
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#546 » by infinite11285 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:27 am

The Servant wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
The Servant wrote:
Ok, give me an accurate word to use to describe someone who is lawless, violent, and commits assault. You are the one who wants to control our language, and you're a mod, so provide me a word that sums up those things and I'll use it.

Go.


Donkey, idiot, jackass, instigator, a headache, etc. The English language contains thousands of other nouns that can describe Draymond, and being adamant about using one particular noun is incredibly frustrating. Simply trying to moderate a discussion from turning into a dumpster fire shouldn't result in attacks on my character.

And Draymond Green was not charged with a crime. The NBA will be responsible for handing down a fair punishment, so please do not try to twist the incident into a criminal act that did not happen to support your argument.


Lmao at pretending it wasn't assault on Jordan Poole. Btw this one didn't happen on court:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2723687-draymond-greens-alleged-assault-victim-says-he-wakes-up-crying-after-incident.amp.html

How many people do you have to punch in the face before you can be called a thug? How many people do you have to knock unconscious? He's at 3 so far in the past 6 years.


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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#547 » by One_and_Done » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:31 am

EmpireFalls wrote:Enablers have enabled this to happen.

Remember when GSW fans tried to defend Draymond for kicking ppl in the balls, claiming it was a natural motion he'd always used and he couldn't be expected to change it now? Funny how as soon as the league started suspending him for it he stopped it completely.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#548 » by basketballRob » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:46 am

Ron Artest got more violent at the end of his career.

https://youtu.be/YnayIPA0Yfk?feature=shared

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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#549 » by Nate505 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:58 am

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Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.

There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO


Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.

I don't know what color Bill Romonowski's hair was, but that guy was one of the biggest thugs I've seen in pro sports.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#550 » by Domejandro » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:05 am

New Thread linked below. As a note, if people cannot behave, I'll hand out strikes in the next one. If you don't have it in you to not post like a goofball, literally just avoid the thread. Thank you!

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2339887

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