2016-17 Rookie Watch thread
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Embiid and Murray named rookie of the month.
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magnumt wrote:PockyCandy wrote:Spoiler:
He had 14 Points against the Wolves last night in a Win. Midrange, Drives, and 3's to get there.
Guy is really good as a backup 3.
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Malcolm Brogdon is a guy to look out for, he might be the steal of the draft. 36th pick and he's a key rotation player on a playoff team, plays like a 10 year vet. Rock solid at damn near everything, just a godsend after the Middleton injury.
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Does Dekker count as a rookie? Only played 6 minutes his actual rookie year due to a back injury and he has been fantastic this season.
13/7/2 per 36 to go with 59%ts and 40% from three. His shooting is a bit unsustainable imo but his defense and rebounding appears to be the real deal and he's a very heady player, makes great cuts and attacks closeouts well, also really athletic, runs in transition and gets alot of dunks there and in the half court
13/7/2 per 36 to go with 59%ts and 40% from three. His shooting is a bit unsustainable imo but his defense and rebounding appears to be the real deal and he's a very heady player, makes great cuts and attacks closeouts well, also really athletic, runs in transition and gets alot of dunks there and in the half court
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K_chile22 wrote:Does Dekker count as a rookie? Only played 6 minutes his actual rookie year due to a back injury and he has been fantastic this season.
13/7/2 per 36 to go with 59%ts and 40% from three. His shooting is a bit unsustainable imo but his defense and rebounding appears to be the real deal and he's a very heady player, makes great cuts and attacks closeouts well, also really athletic, runs in transition and gets alot of dunks there and in the half court
He's definitely worth a shout-out, and discussion in this thread. Been very solid.
Bit OT, but 2nd year man Harrell has been playing well also, I thought he was a steal in the 2nd round. Houston have done well with their picks recently.
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A rookie that is overlooked is Pascal Siakam with the Raptors he has been the starting power forward for the team this year due to a injury to Sullinger. He has steadily gotten better in this difficult role as the season has progressed and is a active defender, rebounder and improved scorer. He is another of Masai's jewels like Norman Powell he was drafted at 27th but was rumored to go about 40th.
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Dunn has to be really bad to not take over for Rubio (who is terrible).
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Domantas Sabonis, kid is getting better.
Right know he is ranking 6-7 in 3PT% among ALL NBA players:
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/3-points
First year in Gonzaga he took 0 shots, made 0 too.
Second year he took 14, made 5. It was more like "let's try, and , yeah, sometimes I can hit them".
First year in NBA, after quarter of the season sampling size is impressive: 22-49, almost 45%.
I've been watching kid since he was 15. Initial impression - his game is ugly, but interesting. Very quick, but very raw, all points in the paint, dominant rebounder for his natural PF position. Shot FT with 50% "accuracy", and was very unhappy with that. His father told him to relax. "Shaq was always shooting 50%", didn't hurt him much
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Second year in Gonzaga he was for a long time well above 80% in FT%.
Cause Primo had surgery last year Bulldogs played without a C, mostly it was a combo of Domas and Wiltjer. It was agood combo - Wiltjer terrorizing from outside, Domas - a demolition force inside. Some Domas numbers in his last season with Gonzaga:
12/19/15 GU - Tennessee, w 86-79, Domas 36/16
1/21/16 Gu at San Fran, w 102-94 (OT), Domas with team high in points 35, rebounds 14 and assists - 4.
Couple rebounding exploits from that season: 11/23/15 best high 20, 4 times 17, 4 times 16.
Domas got lucky to end up in OKC. He is playing with Westbrook, who is just too much for any team to handle. Naturally, Domas role have changed. He mostly is floating around three line, creating more space for Russ, Adams and monster from the bench Kanter in the paint. Offensively his role is the one he never had before, and so far he is able to do his job pretty well.
But he is pretty watch on the defense. Always moves, defends well in one on one situations and so one.
Conclusion: in the last 4-5 years Domas showed a very steep improvement in all areas of bball. What impresses me most - improvement in FT% and 3PT%. A simple recipe to achieve that - take a lot of them before the practice, after, or anytime anywhere.
Interesting thing: third year in row Domas play's different role, and does that pretty successfully. I was not expecting that. At first I thought that kid didn't have a shooters touch. It's sooo good sometimes to be wrong
Right know he is ranking 6-7 in 3PT% among ALL NBA players:
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/3-points
First year in Gonzaga he took 0 shots, made 0 too.
Second year he took 14, made 5. It was more like "let's try, and , yeah, sometimes I can hit them".
First year in NBA, after quarter of the season sampling size is impressive: 22-49, almost 45%.
I've been watching kid since he was 15. Initial impression - his game is ugly, but interesting. Very quick, but very raw, all points in the paint, dominant rebounder for his natural PF position. Shot FT with 50% "accuracy", and was very unhappy with that. His father told him to relax. "Shaq was always shooting 50%", didn't hurt him much

Second year in Gonzaga he was for a long time well above 80% in FT%.
Cause Primo had surgery last year Bulldogs played without a C, mostly it was a combo of Domas and Wiltjer. It was agood combo - Wiltjer terrorizing from outside, Domas - a demolition force inside. Some Domas numbers in his last season with Gonzaga:
12/19/15 GU - Tennessee, w 86-79, Domas 36/16
1/21/16 Gu at San Fran, w 102-94 (OT), Domas with team high in points 35, rebounds 14 and assists - 4.
Couple rebounding exploits from that season: 11/23/15 best high 20, 4 times 17, 4 times 16.
Domas got lucky to end up in OKC. He is playing with Westbrook, who is just too much for any team to handle. Naturally, Domas role have changed. He mostly is floating around three line, creating more space for Russ, Adams and monster from the bench Kanter in the paint. Offensively his role is the one he never had before, and so far he is able to do his job pretty well.
But he is pretty watch on the defense. Always moves, defends well in one on one situations and so one.
Conclusion: in the last 4-5 years Domas showed a very steep improvement in all areas of bball. What impresses me most - improvement in FT% and 3PT%. A simple recipe to achieve that - take a lot of them before the practice, after, or anytime anywhere.
Interesting thing: third year in row Domas play's different role, and does that pretty successfully. I was not expecting that. At first I thought that kid didn't have a shooters touch. It's sooo good sometimes to be wrong


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JV4MVP wrote:magnumt wrote:PockyCandy wrote:Spoiler:
He had 14 Points against the Wolves last night in a Win. Midrange, Drives, and 3's to get there.
Guy is really good as a backup 3.
--Mags
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GimmeDat wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Does Dekker count as a rookie? Only played 6 minutes his actual rookie year due to a back injury and he has been fantastic this season.
13/7/2 per 36 to go with 59%ts and 40% from three. His shooting is a bit unsustainable imo but his defense and rebounding appears to be the real deal and he's a very heady player, makes great cuts and attacks closeouts well, also really athletic, runs in transition and gets alot of dunks there and in the half court
He's definitely worth a shout-out, and discussion in this thread. Been very solid.
Bit OT, but 2nd year man Harrell has been playing well also, I thought he was a steal in the 2nd round. Houston have done well with their picks recently.
Yeah, feels like Morey kills it after the first 15 picks (Parsons, Capela, Montrezl, Dekker, Motiejunas) but isn't so good inside of there (Royce White, Jeremy Lamb, Marcus Morris ended up being good but was terrible at first, and T Jones ended up being terrible but started off well)
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TooBad wrote:How good can this guy be? and 2) what were the six GM's before Denver smoking when they passed on him? The kid is only 19 years old and is already looking better than certain all stars in this league.
We really need to change this title to the rookie/overreaction thread. It's seriously difficult have any serious conversations if people keep overreacting to such small sample size, especially with rookies. I was pushing for Boston to take Murray with the third overall pick, I still would have preferred it. That being said we know how raw the draft class was and most aren't seeing close to the minutes Murray is. Let's not forget it was just a month ago Murray was hadn't hit a thing and people were overreacting with the bust label. The kid is going to be a good offensive player in the league and I understand fans love their own rooks, but not even just Murray, we need to hold off with the crazy comparisons and hype on these guys after having a few good games.
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Quentin wrote:Dunn has to be really bad to not take over for Rubio (who is terrible).
Kris Dunn has been really bad (offensively, though his defense is legitimately amazing), but Ricky Rubio is not terrible at all.
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Domejandro wrote:Quentin wrote:Dunn has to be really bad to not take over for Rubio (who is terrible).
Kris Dunn has been really bad (offensively, though his defense is legitimately amazing), but Ricky Rubio is not terrible at all.
Ricky is terrible. Curious, why do we have emoticons like laughing guy and head banging guy and crazy guy? Can't use them or a mod will come and tell you to keep things civil? Weird.
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Hield continues to scrub.
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Alex DeLarge wrote:Hield continues to scrub.
Wait, was this serious?
"This post wants out of New Orleans" - Woj
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Alex DeLarge wrote:Hield continues to scrub.
Wat chu talkin bout Willis
16 points on 4-7 threes today with some big shots late in the 4th to make it a 4 point game
Hield explosion imminent

(meanwhle Murray has gone scoreless the last 2 games heh heh)
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Willie Hernangomez...such skills..just needs to keep getting that play time.
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Alonzo_Morning wrote:(meanwhle Murray has gone scoreless the last 2 games heh heh)
You were saying?
I'm sure there's a full highlight video out there but here's a shot that was pretty amusing.