Is there a reasonable argument that MJ was actually better at basketball than LeBron?

[DimesandKnicks]

Twice as many trophies as lebron, didn’t have to team up to do so, 2 more championships and FMVps, one more DPOY, 4 more 1st team defense,
Only four times in history has a player been first team defense, won the scoring title, MVPregular season and finals MVp…. Jordan, Jordan, Jordan and Jordan. He had 7 of the top ten highest playoff series scoring averages of all time Lebron not even 1 and 19 of the 100 top gamescores recorded. He has higher PER, playoff PER, winshares, playoff winshares, VORP per 48, and even box score plus minus. The only thing fooling people is rebounds and assist because lebron plays point forward. We won’t get into his free throw, midrange game, and weaknesses.

And can you imagine the crap Jordan would get if he lost his team a championship by not showing up like 2011, or if Popovich left Jordan open as a strategy in the finals? Or if he teamed up with Hakeem and Reggie?
It’s Jordan and not remotely close, sorry.

Easier to not team up to win championships when your team is giving Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen instead of JJ Hickson and Luke Jackson

[benson13]

This series is beneath LeBron. Give the king his crown and let's not bother with playing the actual games.

That 2011 Mavericks are one of the greatest teams ever. We have convoluted statistics to prove they were better than Jordan's Bulls themselves let alone any team those Bulls beat.

Jordan never took a paycut to build a superteam;

[zimpy27]

There are definitely reasonable arguments out there, a few in this thread

[GiannisAnte34]

LeBron should have been better with his insane athleticism and teaming up with super friends

But he still wasn’t

[CzBoobie]

The old superteam and super friends arguments...
Give me the best second option and the best coach for a freaking decade over the so called super friends any day.
Not to mention the timing of never really competing with another dynasty and the general team quality diluted by expansions.

[LaLover11]

Yes because LeBron is and always be a overall better player than MJ

[gavran]

The old superteam and super friends arguments...
Give me the best second option and the best coach for a freaking decade over the so called super friends any day.
Not to mention the timing of never really competing with another dynasty and the general team quality diluted by expansions.

But superfriend Wade was better then your best second option ever was.

How can people have the talent to destroy their own argument is less than a sentence?

[CzBoobie]

The old superteam and super friends arguments...
Give me the best second option and the best coach for a freaking decade over the so called super friends any day.
Not to mention the timing of never really competing with another dynasty and the general team quality diluted by expansions.

But superfriend Wade was better then your best second option ever was.

How can people have the talent to destroy their own argument is less than a sentence?

Did LeBron play with prime Wade for a decade? I must have missed it.

[DimesandKnicks]

This series is beneath LeBron. Give the king his crown and let's not bother with playing the actual games.

That 2011 Mavericks are one of the greatest teams ever. We have convoluted statistics to prove they were better than Jordan's Bulls themselves let alone any team those Bulls beat.

Jordan never took a paycut to build a superteam;

Easy not to take a pay cut to build a super team when your organization already built a super team; one in which your second best player is making less money than Luc Longley *shrug*

[bledredwine]

Twice as many trophies as lebron, didn’t have to team up to do so, 2 more championships and FMVps, one more DPOY, 4 more 1st team defense,
Only four times in history has a player been first team defense, won the scoring title, MVPregular season and finals MVp…. Jordan, Jordan, Jordan and Jordan. He had 7 of the top ten highest playoff series scoring averages of all time Lebron not even 1 and 19 of the 100 top gamescores recorded. He has higher PER, playoff PER, winshares, playoff winshares, VORP per 48, and even box score plus minus. The only thing fooling people is rebounds and assist because lebron plays point forward. We won’t get into his free throw, midrange game, and weaknesses.

And can you imagine the crap Jordan would get if he lost his team a championship by not showing up like 2011, or if Popovich left Jordan open as a strategy in the finals? Or if he teamed up with Hakeem and Reggie?
It’s Jordan and not remotely close, sorry.

Easier to not team up to win championships when your team is giving Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen instead of JJ Hickson and Luke Jackson

Heck no it isn't. Taking a franchise from no reputation and putting them on the board with 6 more championships, to be the 3rd most winning franchise is far more impressive than winning 2 each by teaming up in franchises that have had no problem winning a couple or constantly in the past.
You name-dropping Horace Grant like he's some stellar player when he wasn't even top 50 in the league tells you all that you need to know.

Compare that with name dropping Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and Ray Allen, or Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, etc.

[bisme37]

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