76ers back to fining Ben Simmons

[anotherhomer]

well.....this is scorch earth, there's no way he gets his money back after this one

[XblueworldX]

Mental health is very sensitive topic and most know severity of it whether from personal experience or through their family and friends. Also, sometime challenging to evuate.

But if you ask me honestly, my first response would be that he is making this excuse, considering all things happen before claiming mental health issue and reading recent Rich Paul comments. Now of course, there is always possibility of being true. If he truly has it, I wish him healthy recovery.

Just trade him and get this over with, because his value is definitely not going up as the back and forth between both party.

[Spens1]

End to end, this Ben Simmons situation is the wildest thing we've ever seen regarding only one player. A franchise max player becomes so scared to shoot the basketball that he passes open a wide open dunk. His team loses a playoff series in big part because of this passiveness. The franchises coach, other superstar, and entire fanbase call him out on his play. He gets so offended by this that he ghosts the team altogether. Doesn't show up to practices, meetings etc. Tries to get traded, but the team doesn't trade him because his value went from superstar to role player in the span of a summer. Now because he didn't get traded he is claiming his mental health is too unmanageable. I feel like I'm watching a drama sitcom.

Nah i feel like if this was a player like Lattrell Sprewell Morey's office would have been trashed and he'd have been throwing hands at Embiid and possibly Doc as well.

Marbury refusing to suit up for the Knicks i think in 05/06 was way way worse.

[SpreeChokeJob]

They seriously miscalculated when they thought they were going to be paid by sitting out.

Morey don’t play that.

[John Murdoch]

Isn't he going to a NBAPA approved medical professional.

I don't think the 76ers can do anything. You're already winning without him, just get some pieces to finish off the squad and deal him to be honest.

Morey is in it just for the torture

[DusterBuster]

I seriously don't know how anyone can look at Rich Paul's comments in the media and still think their claims of mental illness are on the up and up.

[Tomjas]

I seriously don't know how anyone can look at Rich Paul's comments in the media and still think their claims of mental illness are on the up and up.

Some 4D chess move of Simmons to undergo therapy for months before it was revealed

[DusterBuster]

I seriously don't know how anyone can look at Rich Paul's comments in the media and still think their claims of mental illness are on the up and up.

Some 4D chess move of Simmons to undergo therapy for months before it was revealed

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

[Tomjas]

I seriously don't know how anyone can look at Rich Paul's comments in the media and still think their claims of mental illness are on the up and up.

Some 4D chess move of Simmons to undergo therapy for months before it was revealed

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

Don’t care about Rich Paul and let’s not paint the Sixers as some innocent bystander

They owe Simmons a duty of care and have been going out of their way to trash him

[DusterBuster]

Some 4D chess move of Simmons to undergo therapy for months before it was revealed

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

Don’t care about Rich Paul and let’s not paint the Sixers as some innocent bystander

They owe Simmons a duty of care and have been going out of their way to trash him

You can't claim to be sympathetic to Simmons' claim and then say you "don't care about Rich Paul" exposing Ben Simmons private mental state that should be between himself and his therapist.

Sixers and Morey have plenty of blame, but they aren't the ones currently abusing mental illness as a way to get money for not working.

[Wilfried]

Some 4D chess move of Simmons to undergo therapy for months before it was revealed

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

Don’t care about Rich Paul and let’s not paint the Sixers as some innocent bystander

They owe Simmons a duty of care and have been going out of their way to trash him

No, they want to help him and Simmons' (camp) refuses it ... you don't have to twist it.

[Tomjas]

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

Don’t care about Rich Paul and let’s not paint the Sixers as some innocent bystander

They owe Simmons a duty of care and have been going out of their way to trash him

You can't claim to be sympathetic to Simmons' claim and then say you "don't care about Rich Paul" exposing Ben Simmons private mental state that should be between himself and his therapist.

Sixers and Morey have plenty of blame, but they aren't the ones currently abusing mental illness as a way to get money for not working.

Why did Simmons start mental health care months ago?

[Tomjas]

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

Don’t care about Rich Paul and let’s not paint the Sixers as some innocent bystander

They owe Simmons a duty of care and have been going out of their way to trash him

No, they want to help him and Simmons' (camp) refuses it ... you don't have to twist it.

Simmons has been receiving therapy for months from professionals approved by the Players Association

Sixers only interest is in getting the best value in a trade

There’s no twist

It’s been that way for months

[Gusto1903]

F Simmons and F his Camp for exploiting serious matters like Mental Health so shamelessly.

[Doug_12]

Believe what you want, but if you believe Simmons than you should believe he should fire Rich Paul. He did just reveal some sensitive information about Ben’s therapy in the media to blast the Sixers… cause that’s what an agent should do for a client who’s dealing with “serious” mental health issues.

Don’t care about Rich Paul and let’s not paint the Sixers as some innocent bystander

They owe Simmons a duty of care and have been going out of their way to trash him

No, they want to help him and Simmons' (camp) refuses it ... you don't have to twist it.

If I had mental health issues because of work, the last thing I'd want is to get therapy from my employer's doctor.

To be honest, I was: I worked a lot, it was stressful and I developed panic attacks. Fortunately it only lasted for 2 months, but I never ever considered going anywhere near my employer at that time. I sought help on my own and get my doctor testify that I cannot work. I never even told my employer what the problem is... (Then I went back, worked there a few months until I got an acceptable offer and then quit. Now I'm happy w/ my job and haven't had any issues like that since then.)

So: If the mental health issue is real w/ Simmons, then both parties are handling it in the worst possible way. Simmons should get a doctor diagnose him and testify that he cannot work. Then I believe, he doesn't even need to disclose to the 76ers what the exact problem is - especially because it worsens the situation*. The 76ers then should accept this and that's it.

*Because they start negotiating, seeking compromises etc... in a situation where you don't have capacity for this. That is not the right time. You need to get better and when you are ok, you can then engage in these talks if you want. I didn't for example.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Why did Simmons start mental health care months ago?

We don't know what kind of therapy he started, many people do it but are not because of that incapacitated to perform their job.
The fact that it became the primary issue to refuse to play for the Sixers only after all the other plans failed is highly suspicious, you must admit that.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Anyway, Morey is handling this in a way not other GM in the league could in my view, in this player empowerment time.
I'm a actually impressed.

It would be very interesting to have an anonymous survey to find out what players in general think about this.

[Tomjas]

Why did Simmons start mental health care months ago?

We don't know what kind of therapy he started, many people do it but are not because of that incapacitated to perform their job.
The fact that it became the primary issue to refuse to play for the Sixers only after all the other plans failed is highly suspicious, you must admit that.

I am not rushing to judgment

He’s getting some sort of help and the Sixers forced him to admit it after levying the biggest fines in history

I can understand him keeping it quiet until then as it’s not normally something that people in his position publicise

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Why did Simmons start mental health care months ago?

We don't know what kind of therapy he started, many people do it but are not because of that incapacitated to perform their job.
The fact that it became the primary issue to refuse to play for the Sixers only after all the other plans failed is highly suspicious, you must admit that.

I am not rushing to judgment

He’s getting some sort of help and the Sixers forced him to admit it after levying the biggest fines in history

I can understand him keeping it quiet until then as it’s not normally something that people in his position publicise

Look, when you're paid 33 millions or so expectations are different.
He actually has the option to just walk off and focus on his personal health, something that most people who suffer of this kind of diseases can't do.
I had a person in my team that was facing depression and has been on and off work for almost a year, while getting paid. And I really didn't try to investigate further as she was not willing to share. But I am really tentative when we extend this kind of extremely benevolent logic to the most privileged people in our society. You can't give a millionaire the same latitude in terms of unquestioned benefit of doubt as to someone at the bottom. Personal support? Sure, why not. Economical? Not really.

[Jimmy Recard]

Disgusting how they’re making a mockery of mental health. So scummy. Simmons is a spineless coward and Rich Paul is a pos.