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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#561 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:12 pm

2weekswithpay wrote:Da Silva might've solidified himself as a first round pick.

Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#562 » by G R E Y » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:13 pm

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2weekswithpay wrote:Da Silva might've solidified himself as a first round pick.

Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.

CD's lack of GAF motor is glaring.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#563 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:15 pm

Kurtz wrote:Edey just dominating this game. Forget asking if he's a first round pick, and start asking if he's breaking into the top 10.

I know he can't defend in space in the NBA, but given his potential dominance inside you can work around that limitation.

If you aren't going to build your entire offense around Edey then he's not worth a top 10 pick imo.

Yeah he's going to struggle playing defense. But if you truly build your offense around his skillset then he might could be worth it. Surround him with 4 floor spacers and see if that 4 out 1 in offense could work like it did with Dwight and the Magic back in the day.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#564 » by ___Rand___ » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:16 pm

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Kurtz wrote:Edey just dominating this game. Forget asking if he's a first round pick, and start asking if he's breaking into the top 10.

I know he can't defend in space in the NBA, but given his potential dominance inside you can work around that limitation.


He's too slow for the NBA. He can't stand in the paint like he does in college. They'll just pull him out from the paint and just blow by. NBA court is bigger too. Too much space for him to cover. So if I'm picking him in 1st, it'll be like with 28th or 30th pick, and I desperately need a big body to deal with Joker or something. Otherwise 2nd round is better.


Maybe you're using it as a metaphor, but NBA and NCAA courts are the same size.


Is it? I thought it was smaller. 3 point line is longer. Paint is wider.

Edit: yup. same size court, but paint and 3 point line distance stands.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#565 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:16 pm

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2weekswithpay wrote:Da Silva might've solidified himself as a first round pick.

Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.

CD's lack of GAF motor is glaring.

Agreed he doesn't have that DAWG in em!

He's already a projected top 5 pick, so I'm not sure if he gains anything from going back to school. He's more of a project player. He gotta add some weight to his frame.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#566 » by ___Rand___ » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:18 pm

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Kurtz wrote:Edey just dominating this game. Forget asking if he's a first round pick, and start asking if he's breaking into the top 10.

I know he can't defend in space in the NBA, but given his potential dominance inside you can work around that limitation.


He's too slow for the NBA. He can't stand in the paint like he does in college. They'll just pull him out from the paint and just blow by. NBA court is bigger too. Too much space for him to cover. So if I'm picking him in 1st, it'll be like with 28th or 30th pick, and I desperately need a big body to deal with Joker or something. Otherwise 2nd round is better.


I see your point, but if a 34-year old Brook Lopez can figure out how to be runner-up DPOY in the NBA, I think Edey can make it work too.


I would say he's slower than 34 year old Lopez. I think someone will pick him up. late rounds at most.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#567 » by eminence » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:18 pm

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He's too slow for the NBA. He can't stand in the paint like he does in college. They'll just pull him out from the paint and just blow by. NBA court is bigger too. Too much space for him to cover. So if I'm picking him in 1st, it'll be like with 28th or 30th pick, and I desperately need a big body to deal with Joker or something. Otherwise 2nd round is better.


Maybe you're using it as a metaphor, but NBA and NCAA courts are the same size.


Is it? I thought it was smaller. 3 point line is longer. Paint is wider.


Yep, both 94x50. HS courts are shorter at 84x50. FIBA courts are technically a tiny bit smaller than NBA/college courts as well.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#568 » by Kurtz » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:29 pm

G R E Y wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:Da Silva might've solidified himself as a first round pick.

Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.

CD's lack of GAF motor is glaring.


Yeah, he's got a real smooth stroke and he moves real well, but you really have to question a guy who is mocked to go top 5 but is this willing to defer to multiple teammates.

Possibly he hasn't recovered from his injury yet but that doesn't seem to be an issue watching him.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#569 » by 2weekswithpay » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:39 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:Da Silva might've solidified himself as a first round pick.

Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.


Not excusing Cody Williams' play recently but Da Silva is 3 years older than Cody. He's better now but will he be better in 4 years at the end of both player's rookie contracts?
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#570 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:52 pm

2weekswithpay wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:Da Silva might've solidified himself as a first round pick.

Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.


Not excusing Cody Williams' play recently but Da Silva is 3 years older than Cody. He's better now but will he be better in 4 years at the end of both player's rookie contracts?

Down the line Williams may be better. I'm talking right now Da Silva is clearly the better player.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#571 » by jkvonny » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:03 pm

Wow!

Gonzaga vs Purdue is gonna be a good one!
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#572 » by 2weekswithpay » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:03 pm

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G R E Y wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Honestly he looks like a better prospect than Cody Williams.

CD's lack of GAF motor is glaring.


Yeah, he's got a real smooth stroke and he moves real well, but you really have to question a guy who is mocked to go top 5 but is this willing to defer to multiple teammates.

Possibly he hasn't recovered from his injury yet but that doesn't seem to be an issue watching him.


I think this tends to happen when you aren't good/great at any one skill. Cody is kind of average across the board which leads to him floating around during games.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#573 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:06 pm

2weekswithpay wrote:
Kurtz wrote:
G R E Y wrote:CD's lack of GAF motor is glaring.


Yeah, he's got a real smooth stroke and he moves real well, but you really have to question a guy who is mocked to go top 5 but is this willing to defer to multiple teammates.

Possibly he hasn't recovered from his injury yet but that doesn't seem to be an issue watching him.


I think this tends to happen when you aren't good/great at any one skill. Cody is kind of average across the board which leads to him floating around during games.

Oh there is no denying his potential. He's not great at anything, but he's solid in a lot of things as well. Anytime you have a 6'8 wing who can handle and make plays there is always a chance he could develop those skills at an elite level. He could be a star down the line, but it will take him some time to develop mainly his strength.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#574 » by ___Rand___ » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:15 pm

Duke's next. On the topic of big men, does/should Filipowski enter the draft this year? He considered and pulled out last year. IMO it won't hurt him to stay another year in college, get stronger, polish his game.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#575 » by G R E Y » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:21 pm

___Rand___ wrote:Duke's next. On the topic of big men, does Filipowski enter the draft this year? He considered and pulled out last year. IMO it won't hurt him to stay another year in college, get stronger, polish his game.

Has Ivicic declared?
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#576 » by rockmanslim » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:25 pm

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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#577 » by Dan33185 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:28 pm

I always love these coaches from the small school that say "we're not the underdog" or "we belong here" right before they go out and get blown out by 30.
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#578 » by rockmanslim » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:31 pm

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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#579 » by ___Rand___ » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:38 pm

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___Rand___ wrote:Duke's next. On the topic of big men, does Filipowski enter the draft this year? He considered and pulled out last year. IMO it won't hurt him to stay another year in college, get stronger, polish his game.

Has Ivicic declared?


Haven't heard any declarations. I think it'll happen after the tourney. What's your thought on him?
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Re: March Madness Discussion and prospect watch 

Post#580 » by ___Rand___ » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:39 pm

Dan33185 wrote:I always love these coaches from the small school that say "we're not the underdog" or "we belong here" right before they go out and get blown out by 30.


I would have loved to see Oakland in the sweet 16. I think that defense and 3 point shooting could have made some noise. NC State was playing too well.
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