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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#581 » by Tacoma » Fri Jul 4, 2014 3:17 am

Imon wrote:LMAO.

29 pages and counting...
Lin isn't a bad guy but I wouldn't want him on my team simply because people hyperventilate over small issues like this. The Tim Tebow of the NBA.


And LMAO right back at you... if you think this is a small matter, they why post and extend the thread adding more fuel with an insuting Tim Tebow reference? Why not just let it rest?

It takes 2 to tango and "hyperventilation" is being done by both sides. If no one were hyperventilating on the "anti-Lin" side, this thread would've died a long time ago.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#582 » by 13th Man » Fri Jul 4, 2014 3:19 am

I want to see this reach at least 50 pages :)
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Post#583 » by Ettorefm » Fri Jul 4, 2014 3:28 am

there's a disconnect and now its blown out of proportion about how good he is and how bad he is treated.

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I kinda agree with that, but not the overrating part. The ones I see mistakenly valuing him are haters. I like Lin and would love to see him suceed in another team, but I don't think he's an All-Star or anything, neither have I ever seen some overrated opinion about him by his supporters or fans.
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People just see that he makes the team better and never gets the attention he needs, and that he should leave to a team that appreciates him for his quality - not All-star quality, just very very good quality. He can start for the Bucks, Magic, Pistons and Lakers, for example.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#584 » by MiltownHawkeye » Fri Jul 4, 2014 4:55 am

This thread taught me that the less good at basketball you are the less your human dignity matters.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#585 » by Kupchak9 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:56 am

Lin to the Spurs please !
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Post#586 » by Ettorefm » Fri Jul 4, 2014 5:58 am

Kupchak9 wrote:Lin to the Spurs please !

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Man, Lin would be called an All-Star in that system :lol: Imagine if Parker had a career-ending surgery and they needed someone right now. Lin would be awesome as their playmaker, he's spurs material.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#587 » by baki » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:20 am

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playoffs wrote:Man I don't get the hate so many Rockets fans have for Lin. I can understand hating a player that has disrespected your franchise or the fans, or plays selfish ball, but Lin has done none of those things.

Do I hate him? No.

Am I tired of him? Of how NBA fans who just love the underdog Lin repeatedly use him as a whipping dog to bash everyone else on the Rockets? About how the fact that Lin isn't an All-Star is used as this fact that somehow "he isn't used properly" and not the fact that he is a point guard with major flaws in his game? Of his inconsistency and how he has stretches where he looks absolutely terrific, and then stretches where it looks like he doesn't belong in the league?

Yeah. I am tired of Lin. It's not his fault. He's an average point guard with strengths and weaknesses. But because of who he is, we have 26 freaking pages on one tweet from this average point guard, because of the media and the underdog story he represents. So I don't blame him for it in the slightest. But that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy me to death, and I'm sick to death of dealing with it. And a great deal of Rockets fans are at this point as well.


Nobody is forcing you to read or watch Lin.

You are more than welcome to stop reading this thread any time.

Bye bye.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#588 » by baki » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:23 am

Manitoba wrote:
GC Pantalones wrote:Maybe it's because Bev is the better player?

Lin's on/off in Houston: -2.0 (they're better when he's not on the floor)
Bev's on/off in Houston: +6.4 (they're way better with him on the floor)

Where are you getting your stats? Accordiing to 82games.com, Lin's on/off this year is -1.1, not 2.0. Incidentally, Jamal Crawford's on/off this year is -1.6, which is worse than Lin's. By your logic, therefore, the Clippers would have been better off without the 2014 Sixth Man of the Year. The true conclusion is that on/off is a worthless stat.

When Lin started they were 21-12 (52 wins over 82 games), When Bev started they were 38-17 (57 wins over 82 games). By all measures the starting unit plays better with Beverley out there (you know the off ball shooter/defender). He's a role player and Lin is a 6th man type with the 7th man game.

More deceptive numbers. You didn't mention that Lin's 21-12 record as starter included 5 losses when Howard was out with injury. (Dwight was healthy for all of Beverley's games.) Is it any surprise that the Rockets tend to lose when their center is absent?

When Dwight is healthy, Lin's winning percentage as starter is 0.750, which is *far* better than Beverley's 0.691.

Another point. I said earlier that on/off is a useless stat. Well, here's a stat that isn't useless. Jeremy LIn's True Shooting % was .572 the past season, a lot better than Jamal Crawford's 0.556, and VASTLY better than Kyrie Irving's .533 and John Wall's .524. Lin should have been 6MOY; perhaps he didn't qualify because he started too many games.

So you are comprehensively wrong in claiming that Beverley is better than Lin.

In short, Lin is one of the best PGs in the NBA, and the Rockets did him a great wrong in benching him. After JerseyNumberGate, I think everybody sees the team's deceit and disrespect towards Lin.


Careful now, some people don't want to know or hear about this, they still think Beverley and Harden are winners :lol:
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#589 » by steamed hams » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:25 am

omg I wowuld love for Lin to somehow end up on the Spurs
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Post#590 » by UDRIH14 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:26 am

isnt he gettin paid 15m for this new season? feeling disrespected? lmao
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Post#591 » by baki » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:28 am

Kupchak9 wrote:Lin to the Spurs please !


Man that would rock, great system and great team player, though Lin would work well on many teams out there.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#592 » by baki » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:29 am

UDRIH14 wrote:isnt he gettin paid 15m for this new season? feeling disrespected? lmao


Not his fault that the contract ended up that way, he was underpaid at $5m for the first 2 years anyway.
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Post#593 » by WiggOuts » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:31 am

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Post#594 » by baki » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:32 am

inquisitive wrote:isnt it time to lock this?


No because every fan from every team is sharing and talking about it, the other Lin thread not so interesting.
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Post#595 » by Maudlin17 » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:41 am

UDRIH14 wrote:isnt he gettin paid 15m for this new season? feeling disrespected? lmao



Yes because that's totally what this issue is about..how much he gets paid to play basketball. It has nothing to do with how a company is treating one of its current employees.
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Re: Lin feeling disrespected? 

Post#596 » by Scootsyy » Fri Jul 4, 2014 6:49 am

Man, Lin is getting so much hate for something that he didn't even do; he doesn't have a **** attitude, he's not a cancer to the team, he's not out partying and getting in trouble, he doesn't really partake in playing the blame game, so why is he so hated? It seems that everybody has a hard on for disliking him because of the constant dick riding that ESPN was doing during the whole Linsanity period. I see several Rockets fans in this thread that seem to dislike Lin, but they overlook the awful mean girls attitude of the core of the team in Howard, Harden, and (to an extent) Parsons. I feel that Lin would be a solid second option on any fringe playoff team, not that I'm saying that's a major accomplishment, but it is certainly better than the bum that a lot of people treat Lin like. It also baffles me how Harden's lack of defense is blatantly overlooked by many fans, yet there is an irrational hate for a guy that seems to have one of the more laid back personalities in the league. I still can't comprehend how anyone thought it was okay to try to woo Carmelo with a banner where he is wearing Lin's number. As someone else said, it is about seniority, not talent when it comes to what number a player can wear when joining a new team.
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Post#597 » by baki » Fri Jul 4, 2014 7:07 am

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Someone did this, I wonder how Parsons feel about it since he may be on the trading blocks as well :lol:
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Post#598 » by CablexDeadpool » Fri Jul 4, 2014 7:14 am

Ettorefm wrote:I kinda agree with that, but not the overrating part. The ones I see mistakenly valuing him are haters. I like Lin and would love to see him suceed in another team, but I don't think he's an All-Star or anything, neither have I ever seen some overrated opinion about him by his supporters or fans.
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People just see that he makes the team better and never gets the attention he needs, and that he should leave to a team that appreciates him for his quality - not All-star quality, just very very good quality. He can start for the Bucks, Magic, Pistons and Lakers, for example.


Well, see you not one of his crazy fans.

I mean a normal basketball fan, can see Lin as an elite backup and an average starter.
A normal guy can see Lin in Jarrett Jack territory, which to me he is.

Then you have his fans that would think he is in Ty Lawson territory and beyond...which then makes normal basketball fan turn into a Lin hater. Which then will turn a regular Lin fan into a rabid Lin fan or they will keep perspective.

Lin isn't a bad player, but overall he's average and it's pretty sad, seeing that the hype has pretty much made him nothing more than a commodity to sell tickets until a team gets good, then he is sold.

What happened was...basically his fans made Lin valuable for non basketball reasons that supersedes his basketball ability. Knicks thought he wasn't gonna get a big time contract from somebody, and he got one and they correctly decided not to blow money on him. Morey always thought Lin was replaceable and now he intends to get rid of him and it has only been 2 years.

It's pretty sad. :nonono:
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Post#599 » by MaxRider » Fri Jul 4, 2014 7:25 am

baki wrote:Image

Someone did this, I wonder how Parsons feel about it since he may be on the trading blocks as well :lol:

he will lhao because that is awful photoshop job

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people need to stop wearing #35 if don't want to feel disrespect in few years
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Post#600 » by Knighthonor » Fri Jul 4, 2014 7:35 am

MaxRider wrote:
baki wrote:Image

Someone did this, I wonder how Parsons feel about it since he may be on the trading blocks as well :lol:

he will lhao because that is awful photoshop job

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people need to stop wearing #35 if don't want to feel disrespect in few years

Yes bad photoshop

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