ils411 wrote:Pennebaker wrote:ils411 wrote:Eh, KD = wuss confirmed, much like how Lebron = wuss also.
Though Lebron's wussness is still a level higher than KD's.
But can't blame either for wanting rings. Not everyone is lucky enough to be in a team that got Pippen, grant, kucock (spelling?), rodman etc or got paired with a Shaq or Pau without conniving or jumping ship to do so.
Well, for one thing, Kevin Durant was already lucky enough to be on a team that got Westbrook, James Harden and Serge Ibaka. He went to the Finals with those guys, two of which may end up hall of famers. And LeBron in Cleveland was lucky enough to play with... ??? LeBron's most reliable and dynamic sidekick in Cleveland was probably Larry Hughes (not even an all-star, let alone a hall of famer), and he was so reliable that he missed the 2007 Finals to injury.
But KD was already surrounded with talent in OKC. He was one of those fortunate players that was gifted a GM that could draft real talent (like Jerry Krause did for Michael Jordan). LeBron James did not have that in Cleveland.
Regardless of that, KD still went to a team that:
1) has the reigning 2x NBA MVP
2) just won 73 games
3) has three all-stars
4) has a head coach that just won coach of the year
5) recently went to back-to-back finals
6) won a championship a season ago
Clearly the 2010 Miami Heat were not on the level of the 2016 Golden State Warriors. That Heat team hadn't won a single playoff series since 5 years prior. They weren't a great team. They had D.Wade and literally nobody else. And Chris Bosh? He was completely unproven as a championship caliber player. And Erik Spoelstra? He was also completely unproven at that level.
So there can be no comparison. Durant is joining a championship team with gobs of talent. He can get injured, miss the entire season, and the Warriors can still make the Finals. But LeBron joined an
experiment in Miami, and one that was almost completely reliant on him for winning. The Heat absolutely could not afford to lose LeBron. The Warriors are not so reliant on KD, so he can just kind of chill and ride coattails and hope to get a ring. It's a very emasculating decision for Durant, in my opinion.
come now, you're telling me that a Miami team with wade and bosh in 2011 wont make it to the EFC and not win a ring?
If LeBron stayed in Clevland, a Miami team with bosh and wade would take him and his calvs out and go to the finals. Could win a ring too as they are just as talented as the spurs and whathaveyou.point still stands
LeBron is a greater wuss than Durant when he left Clevland than Durant's wussiness now.
But that was then, the now is, Lebron has almost redeemed himself in my eyes and is now just lame but at least not a wuss while Duran is a sissy wussy wuss.
What!? I can't believe you're trying to argue that the 2011 Heat without LeBron was even remotely championship worthy. Even WITH LeBron, that team was terrible from a personnel standpoint.
Look at what that 2011 Heat team might have looked like without LeBron:
PG: Carlos Arroyo
SG: Dwyane Wade
SF: Michael Beasley
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Joel Anthony
And don't even get me started on their non-existent bench. By any objective measure THAT TEAM STINKS!
Now look at the Warriors without Kevin Durant.NO CONTEST. (I mean, shoot, it still features a 2x NBA MVP and three All-Stars!
)
And you're forgetting that the KG, Pierce, Allen & Rondo championship Boston Celtics were still alive and well in 2010, having just been in the NBA Finals that year. There was no guarantee that the Miami Heat were going to be able to beat the Celtics in the East. And when ESPN's panel of "experts" made their championship predictions at the start of the 2010-11 season most of them selected either the Lakers or the Celtics.
What LeBron did involved more risk and more uncertainty. And his Big 3s are always reliant on him for winning. But KD is joining an already completed and championship-proven Big 3, trying to create a Big 4. And for Golden State, Durant is actually expendable. They don't
need him like the Heat needed LeBron.
