The ROTY/Rookie Discussion Thread, Part III

Revived · Post #581 » by **Revived** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:09 pm

Anunoby on the poll but no Jackson?

Golden Knight · Post #582 » by **Golden Knight** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:46 pm

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Well Anunoby has started 36 games for Toronto who have the league's 4th best record. Jackson has started 16 games for the league's 5th worst record and is shooting 39/27/60 for the season. Anunoby is shooting 46/36/70. Give me Anunoby's 6ppg over Jackson's 10ppg on a significantly worse shooting any day of the week. We're not even talking about Anunoby's defensive impact.

Fat · Post #583 » by **Fat** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:59 pm

Kolkmania wrote:New York media did a nice job hyping Frank Ntilikina earlier in the season, but he regressed to being one of the worst offensive players in the league, 40.3 eFG% and .426 TS%.

Somehow basketball reference won't let me see his advanced stats compared to other players with significant minutes, but a -3.6 OBPM and -0.5 WS must be among the worst, right?

He wasnt hyped up majority knew and understood Ntilkina was more of a project player you have to be patient with. You look forward to what he can become later not what he is now.. right now he is really raw. I think he's at least 2 years away from being the point guard we need him to be (that is if this franchise even has the patience to wait around)

Mitchell was the guy i wanted but not ready to give up on ntilkina just yet as frustrating as his offense is to watch at times.

Pharmcat · Post #584 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:59 am

Kolkmania wrote:New York media did a nice job hyping Frank Ntilikina earlier in the season, but he regressed to being one of the worst offensive players in the league, 40.3 eFG% and .426 TS%.

Somehow basketball reference won't let me see his advanced stats compared to other players with significant minutes, but a -3.6 OBPM and -0.5 WS must be among the worst, right?

he is a lotto bust, the next mardy collins...another terrible pick by the NY FO

WaveTheWheat80 · Post #585 » by **WaveTheWheat80** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:26 am

Mitchell gets three fouls in the first qtr. Still finishes with 20pts/4ast/4stls/3rebs in 26 minutes.

Catchall · Post #586 » by **Catchall** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:30 am

Ntilikina is young and playing a tough position. He needs a couple years to put his game together.

KqWIN · Post #587 » by **KqWIN** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:56 am

Catchall wrote:Ntilikina is young and playing a tough position. He needs a couple years to put his game together.

Reminds me of Exum. He just needs to stick with it and stay healthy.

vossy_3 · Post #588 » by **vossy_3** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:29 am

WaveTheWheat80 wrote:Mitchell gets three fouls in the first qtr. Still finishes with 20pts/4ast/4stls/3rebs in 26 minutes.

He also took 17 shots in that time.

The jazz actually played their best bball of the season with Mitchell on the bench.

EireannX · Post #589 » by **EireannX** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:02 pm

vossy_3 wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:Mitchell gets three fouls in the first qtr. Still finishes with 20pts/4ast/4stls/3rebs in 26 minutes.

He also took 17 shots in that time.

The jazz actually played their best bball of the season with Mitchell on the bench.

They were +17 with him on vs +13 with him off. So their 'best basketball of the season' generates a worse differential?

commentatorer · Post #590 » by **commentatorer** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:43 pm

The folks forecasting that Simmons would struggle to score once teams started waiting for him in the paint, were wrong.
For January (11 games), Simmons shot .586 from the field for 16.5ppg.

draftnightsuit · Post #591 » by **draftnightsuit** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:32 pm

Revived wrote:Anunoby on the poll but no Jackson?

Watch on YouTube

He’s been absolutely horrible all year.

CoreyVillains · Post #592 » by **CoreyVillains** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:54 pm

JohnWillow wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Fox to all the haters out there.

Spoiler:

Fox was my favorite guard in the draft. While not a knock down shooter, his form is still pretty fluid. A few years down the line I wouldn't be shocked to see him in the convo for top 3 guys from this draft. He is going to be really really good. I wish he was in a better time zone for me because I really enjoy watching him play.

stitches · Post #593 » by **stitches** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:37 pm

I'm here to deliver to you your daily Mitchell highlights:

Watch on YouTube

Enjoy!

SeattleJazzFan · Post #594 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:40 pm

vossy_3 wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:Mitchell gets three fouls in the first qtr. Still finishes with 20pts/4ast/4stls/3rebs in 26 minutes.

He also took 17 shots in that time.

The jazz actually played their best bball of the season with Mitchell on the bench.

lol

cool007 · Post #595 » by **cool007** » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:29 pm

stitches wrote:I'm here to deliver to you your daily Mitchell highlights:

Watch on YouTube

Enjoy!

Man I really like Mitchell. He is going to be pretty awesome. I hope Jazz molds him as a James Harden type player. He really has the tools. He has really good handles and does have a good vision.

Cappy_Smurf · Post #596 » by **Cappy_Smurf** » Thu Feb 1, 2018 5:16 am

vossy_3 wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:Mitchell gets three fouls in the first qtr. Still finishes with 20pts/4ast/4stls/3rebs in 26 minutes.

He also took 17 shots in that time.

The jazz actually played their best bball of the season with Mitchell on the bench.

LMAO! Fake news. Anyone who actually watches Utah games knows how much better DM makes the team.

During the game they mentioned a stat:

Mitchell has 14 games scoring 25+ points this year.

The rest of this rookie class has 24 combined.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #597 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Feb 1, 2018 7:25 am

Anyone who thought Tatum vs Jackson was over.

January stats:
Tatum - 30 minutes, 11 points, 5 rebounds @ 46/34/75
Jackson - 24 minutes, 14 points, 4 rebounds @ 50/31/74

Kolkmania · Post #598 » by **Kolkmania** » Thu Feb 1, 2018 8:57 am

Ben Simmons has been absolutely fantastic lately. Very efficient shooting nights and the nonchalant turnovers are trending down. Perimeter shooting by the wings have been putrid lately, otherwise there would have been some big assist numbers as well.

6'10'' shouldn't be able to do things like this:

Read on Twitter

Also a shout out for Jarrett Allen who was terrific this game.

Kolkmania · Post #599 » by **Kolkmania** » Thu Feb 1, 2018 9:58 am

Cappy_Smurf wrote:
vossy_3 wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:Mitchell gets three fouls in the first qtr. Still finishes with 20pts/4ast/4stls/3rebs in 26 minutes.

He also took 17 shots in that time.

The jazz actually played their best bball of the season with Mitchell on the bench.

LMAO! Fake news. Anyone who actually watches Utah games knows how much better DM makes the team.

During the game they mentioned a stat:

Mitchell has 14 games scoring 25+ points this year.

The rest of this rookie class has 24 combined.

So to prove a point about how much better Mitchell makes the team play you're going to cite the amount of times he scored more than 25 points?

According to nbawowy, the Jazz have been slightly worse with Mitchell on the court. Still very impressive for a rookie with his usage rate.

steefP2 · Post #600 » by **steefP2** » Thu Feb 1, 2018 10:31 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Anyone who thought Tatum vs Jackson was over.

January stats:
Tatum - 30 minutes, 11 points, 5 rebounds @ 46/34/75
Jackson - 24 minutes, 14 points, 4 rebounds @ 50/31/74

Pretty sure it’s still over.

Who wins? (May select 2 options.)