2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat (Series tied 1-1)

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Who wins?

Knicks in 4
8
3%
Knicks in 5
17
6%
Knicks in 6
74
25%
Knicks in 7
51
17%
Heat in 4
9
3%
Heat in 5
27
9%
Heat in 6
95
31%
Heat in 7
21
7%
 
Total votes: 302

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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#581 » by QUIZ » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:46 am

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Hope you know the Knicks were younger then the Cavs right ??? And about jimmy being the best player in the series Jalen Brunson says hiiiiiii ....


Lol even your man Stephen A would say that’s blasphemous

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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#582 » by cgf » Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:58 am

Man some heat fans really make it hard to root for Jimmy :lol:
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#583 » by DrCoach » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:16 am

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If you want to be more specific , Giannis missed 2 games and a half.

That half a game they were already down double digits with Giannis playing.

And they won one of the 2 full games without Giannis. You could argue they played better without Giannis.

Next.


He played 11 mins out of 48

Thats actually more than 2.75 cause math


mate what is your point? miami heat beat the bucks the last two games giannis played and they were clearly winning the one he played partly.


The point is pretty elementary for anyone with a modicum of common sense
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#584 » by cgf » Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:21 am

If Julius is good to go, is Miami going to put Bam on him and hope Love can keep Mitch/IH from feasting on the offensive glass?
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#585 » by heatlejuice » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:04 am

The KnicksFix wrote:game 1: knicks win , heat fans " not scared, just game 1, spo will adjust"
game 2: knicks win, heat fans " they were supposed to win both, we just need to protect home court"
game 3: heat win, jimmy goes off, heat fans "told you we would adjust, knicks can't stop jimmy at home"
game 4: knicks win, heat fans "we were uddermanned, knicks get all the calls"
game 5: knick win closeout, heat fans "well what did they expect, we were playing 2 guys down, they would never beat us if evenly matched"

talk that talk after game 5, keep that energy bro


This is going to be gold in a couple of weeks. Maybe sooner. LOL
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#586 » by Wolfy1983 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 am

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goodboys lats wrote:The Knicks are so much worse than the Bucks who just lost in 5. The Cavs are a bunch of kids with bad spacing. This is probably the best 8 seed in NBA history.


Lol, Heat got lucky that Giannis missed two games. Slow your roll there my boy lol.

And I hope the Heat have the same attitude you do, it'll be a very short series in the Knicks favor. Sadly, I know the Heat don't have that attitude.



By your logic, the Knicks will be lucky to win the series since Herro and Oladipo are out for Miami
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#587 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:09 am

heatlejuice wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:game 1: knicks win , heat fans " not scared, just game 1, spo will adjust"
game 2: knicks win, heat fans " they were supposed to win both, we just need to protect home court"
game 3: heat win, jimmy goes off, heat fans "told you we would adjust, knicks can't stop jimmy at home"
game 4: knicks win, heat fans "we were uddermanned, knicks get all the calls"
game 5: knick win closeout, heat fans "well what did they expect, we were playing 2 guys down, they would never beat us if evenly matched"

talk that talk after game 5, keep that energy bro


This is going to be gold in a couple of weeks. Maybe sooner. LOL


you're right, maybe after we close out the heat in 4 instead of 5
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#588 » by RoyceDa59 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:26 am

Absolutely cheering for both teams here, this is an unexpected treat in the 2nd round.

Jimmy Butler ability to unlock top 3 player mode every playoffs without fail is legendary.

On the other hand, to see the Knicks finally back in the playoffs and winning a series, with a chance to go to the conference finals… I think it’s great for basketball.
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#589 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:38 am

heat fans, the reason why you lose this is simple... the knicks are elite at defending the pick and roll with ice, drop coverage, hedge, and blitz coverage... the spacing is always kept with IQ and hart in position if the ball handler gets a pick, and mitch has perfect awareness of space to pressure the ball handler if he get to the paint. toppin also collapses to protect the paint a lot, along with julius. the reason why the knicks do so well is because this forces the primary ball handler to take tough shots... and this does not begin to address when the knicks actually pressure with hedge or double teams which will be done to get the ball out of butler's hands.

the knicks defense will give the heat nightmares, mitch, quick, hart, barrett, these players work in synchrony, and if you watch the first game, josh hart will always be in the best position defensively. the guy was a perfect addition because of that

this series is not as close as media and talking heads make it seem, as the knicks defensive coverage has been the best of any team in the postseason
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#590 » by Capn'O » Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:23 am

Why we gotta wait another day tho
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#591 » by Grinditout » Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:28 am

The difference between Budenholzer and Thibs will be glaringly apparent this series.
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#592 » by KIRAG » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:01 am

Spo vs Thibs

OG JB vs on the rise JB

Heat fans vs Knicks fans

this series is going to be :onfire:
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#593 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:25 am

A hobbled & depleted Miami team took 2nd seed Boston to 7 games last season & were a Butler 3 away from taking out the ECF & going back to the NBA finals. We just dismantled the #1 seed. WTF do you think Miami are going to do to the Knicks :lol:

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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#594 » by heatlejuice » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:27 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
heatlejuice wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:game 1: knicks win , heat fans " not scared, just game 1, spo will adjust"
game 2: knicks win, heat fans " they were supposed to win both, we just need to protect home court"
game 3: heat win, jimmy goes off, heat fans "told you we would adjust, knicks can't stop jimmy at home"
game 4: knicks win, heat fans "we were uddermanned, knicks get all the calls"
game 5: knick win closeout, heat fans "well what did they expect, we were playing 2 guys down, they would never beat us if evenly matched"

talk that talk after game 5, keep that energy bro


This is going to be gold in a couple of weeks. Maybe sooner. LOL


you're right, maybe after we close out the heat in 4 instead of 5


Let's make this fun. Since you're so confident, if it goes more than 5 games (which it will unless the Heat give you the same ole a** kicking the bucks got) you change your sig to HEAT OWNS KNICKS till next season.
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#595 » by iamoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:55 am

The KnicksFix wrote:game 1: knicks win , heat fans " not scared, just game 1, spo will adjust"
game 2: knicks win, heat fans " they were supposed to win both, we just need to protect home court"
game 3: heat win, jimmy goes off, heat fans "told you we would adjust, knicks can't stop jimmy at home"
game 4: knicks win, heat fans "we were undermanned, knicks get all the calls"
game 5: knick win closeout, heat fans "well what did they expect, we were playing 2 guys down, they would never beat us if evenly matched"

talk that talk after game 5, keep that energy bro
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#596 » by iamoti » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:59 am

3ballbomber wrote:A hobbled & depleted Miami team took 2nd seed Boston to 7 games last season & were a Butler 3 away from taking out the ECF & going back to the NBA finals. We just dismantled the #1 seed. WTF do you think Miami are going to do to the Knicks

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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#597 » by cgf » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:02 am

3ballbomber wrote:A hobbled & depleted Miami team took 2nd seed Boston to 7 games last season & were a Butler 3 away from taking out the ECF & going back to the NBA finals. We just dismantled the #1 seed. WTF do you think Miami are going to do to the Knicks :lol:


Get rolled by them, just like they're going to do to the Celtics in the next round :wink:
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#598 » by cgf » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:04 am

iamoti wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:game 1: knicks win , heat fans " not scared, just game 1, spo will adjust"
game 2: knicks win, heat fans " they were supposed to win both, we just need to protect home court"
game 3: heat win, jimmy goes off, heat fans "told you we would adjust, knicks can't stop jimmy at home"
game 4: knicks win, heat fans "we were undermanned, knicks get all the calls"
game 5: knick win closeout, heat fans "well what did they expect, we were playing 2 guys down, they would never beat us if evenly matched"

talk that talk after game 5, keep that energy bro
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Well yeah, we're gunna have an ECF to get ready for :wink:
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#599 » by cgf » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:30 am

So trying to predict how each team will plan on defending one another and what would make the most sense to me would be to use their JB & Bam on our JB & Ju, their two best defenders on our two best offensive players; hope Love can keep Mitch/IH from feasting on the offensive glass; let Vincent / Martin chase RJ / IQ around whenever one of them is out there with our top 2; with Lowry / Robinson trying to hide on Hart / Grimes.

From our perspective there are a couple of big questions that could change a lot:
1. Robinson or Hartenstein?
There were a lot of games in which Mitch only got 18-22 minutes, despite being healthy & not being in foul-trouble, and if Spo starts having Bam bringing the ball up the court to pull our 5 into space, this could be another one of those matchups where Thibs leans on Hartenstein more than Robinson.

2. Jimmy or the shooters?
If their shooters stay hot, then even with all of our bodies we'll have to pick between giving Jimmy extra attention or staying tight to their shooters.

I think I would start the game focused on keeping their shooters from coming to life and letting Jimmy be Jimmy; before starting to throw a lot more at Jimmy in the 2nd half when their shooters will have a lot less time to find their rhythm...and Jimmy will have less time to figure out the counters to what we're throwing at him.

I figure Hart & Grimes will be the main Jimmy defenders, but Quickley, Barrett, Randle, and McBride, will likely get thrown at Jimmy at some point...especially if we start throwing the kitchen sink at him the way Thibs did Garland / Mitchell.
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Re: 2023 East Semifinals | (5) New York Knicks VS (8) Miami Heat 

Post#600 » by RRR3 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:46 am

Knicks are deeper but Jimmy is the best player in the series by quite a large margin and I think that means Heat in 6. I am biased though.

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