Is the experiment in Miami is failing?

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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#61 » by GoLakers2011 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:49 pm

coldfish wrote:I'll bash the Heat with the best of 'em, but give me a break. Its been 8 games. In Miami's defense, their defense has been mostly spectacular and when they win, they are destroying teams. There are a lot of reasons to think they are going to win 65+ games.

IMHO, Miami is still the clear cut favorite to win the East.

That being said, the Lakers look like a juggernaut.

Are you **** high? They have been manhandled in their 3 losses. They are not even close to the clear cut favorite.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#62 » by jmbflame21 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:49 pm

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coldfish wrote:I'll bash the Heat with the best of 'em, but give me a break. Its been 8 games. In Miami's defense, their defense has been mostly spectacular and when they win, they are destroying teams. There are a lot of reasons to think they are going to win 65+ games.

IMHO, Miami is still the clear cut favorite to win the East.

That being said, the Lakers look like a juggernaut.

Are you **** high? They have been manhandled in their 3 losses. They are not even close to the clear cut favorite.

lol man handled.......i think youre high
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Post#63 » by NYK 455 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:50 pm

Too early to tell. Mike Miller is a big missing part of that team.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#64 » by Jimmy76 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:50 pm

GoLakers2011 wrote:
coldfish wrote:I'll bash the Heat with the best of 'em, but give me a break. Its been 8 games. In Miami's defense, their defense has been mostly spectacular and when they win, they are destroying teams. There are a lot of reasons to think they are going to win 65+ games.

IMHO, Miami is still the clear cut favorite to win the East.

That being said, the Lakers look like a juggernaut.

Are you **** high? They have been manhandled in their 3 losses. They are not even close to the clear cut favorite.

Manhandled?

Either you aren't following the heat or have a different definition of manhandled than me

Yeah I'd still pick the heat to win the east right now as well
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#65 » by GoLakers2011 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:53 pm

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coldfish wrote:I'll bash the Heat with the best of 'em, but give me a break. Its been 8 games. In Miami's defense, their defense has been mostly spectacular and when they win, they are destroying teams. There are a lot of reasons to think they are going to win 65+ games.

IMHO, Miami is still the clear cut favorite to win the East.

That being said, the Lakers look like a juggernaut.

Are you **** high? They have been manhandled in their 3 losses. They are not even close to the clear cut favorite.

Manhandled?

Either you aren't following the heat or have a different definition of manhandled than me

Yeah I'd still pick the heat to win the east right now as well

By manhandled I mean pushed around in the paint.

They are 5-3. There is no way you can they are the clear cut favorite in the East.

Their bench sucks, they have no size, or low post scoring.

They ain't gonna win the East this year.

That would be Boston.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#66 » by coldfish » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:56 pm

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coldfish wrote:I'll bash the Heat with the best of 'em, but give me a break. Its been 8 games. In Miami's defense, their defense has been mostly spectacular and when they win, they are destroying teams. There are a lot of reasons to think they are going to win 65+ games.

IMHO, Miami is still the clear cut favorite to win the East.

That being said, the Lakers look like a juggernaut.


how are they clear cut fav, they lost to the clear cut favorite? But I guess the excuses were rampant, 1st game of the year, wade coming off injury, big 3 didn't play together, blah blah blah, lets see what other excuses come up IF they lose again to Bos this thurs?


Trust me, it is painful to defend the Heat, but their losses seem flukey. That loss against Boston was with Boston fully healthy, rested and at home. It also had Wade missing everything in his first game back and Miami still almost won. Even if they lose to Boston again, I just don't see how, after 82 games, Miami doesn't end up at the top of the heap in the East.
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Post#67 » by IEcelticfan » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:03 pm

coldfish wrote:Trust me, it is painful to defend the Heat, but their losses seem flukey. That loss against Boston was with Boston fully healthy, rested and at home. It also had Wade missing everything in his first game back and Miami still almost won. Even if they lose to Boston again, I just don't see how, after 82 games, Miami doesn't end up at the top of the heap in the East.


actually, i'd disagree a little, but juuuuust a little.

Celts was missing Perk & Delonte, JO & Shaq weren't 100%. Fully rested? LOL 1st game of the season and let me guess, ummm...Mia had an disadvantage and wasn't fully rested IN THEIR first game of the season, too. (dont know if you (care to) remember, the Celts actually played late into June, so if anything, they're "less rested" that 1ts rd exit wade, 2nd rd quitter the queen, and non-playoff participant rupaul lol).

wade missing everything hmm....it couldn't be partially be because of the Celts' defense, could it? shoot, in fact im gonna go pull the boxscore and see who else on the celts missed a lot of shots that night ....

and also, the Boston is @ home thing. i dont care who you are, good, no, GREAT teams win anywhere, on the road, at home, outdoors, et al.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#68 » by YounG_A » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:05 pm

GoLakers2011 wrote:By manhandled I mean pushed around in the paint.

They are 5-3. There is no way you can they are the clear cut favorite in the East.

Their bench sucks, they have no size, or low post scoring.

They ain't gonna win the East this year.

That would be Boston.

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Post#69 » by nonemus » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:06 pm

IEcelticfan wrote:
coldfish wrote:Trust me, it is painful to defend the Heat, but their losses seem flukey. That loss against Boston was with Boston fully healthy, rested and at home. It also had Wade missing everything in his first game back and Miami still almost won. Even if they lose to Boston again, I just don't see how, after 82 games, Miami doesn't end up at the top of the heap in the East.


actually, i'd disagree a little, but juuuuust a little.

Celts was missing Perk & Delonte, JO & Shaq weren't 100%. Fully rested? LOL 1st game of the season and let me guess, ummm...Mia had an disadvantage and wasn't fully rested IN THEIR first game of the season, too. (dont know if you (care to) remember, the Celts actually played late into June, so if anything, they're "less rested" that 1ts rd exit wade, 2nd rd quitter the queen, and non-playoff participant rupaul lol).

wade missing everything hmm....it couldn't be partially be because of the Celts' defense, could it? shoot, in fact im gonna go pull the boxscore and see who else on the celts missed a lot of shots that night ....

and also, the Boston is @ home thing. i dont care who you are, good, no, GREAT teams win anywhere, on the road, at home, outdoors, et al.


Wade had one of the 10 worst games of his NBA career that night. He hasn't had as bad a game in 3 years. It definitely wasn't entirely due to the Celtics defense.
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Post#70 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:06 pm

coldfish wrote:
Trust me, it is painful to defend the Heat, but their losses seem flukey. That loss against Boston was with Boston fully healthy, rested and at home. It also had Wade missing everything in his first game back and Miami still almost won. Even if they lose to Boston again, I just don't see how, after 82 games, Miami doesn't end up at the top of the heap in the East.

Enough with the reverse jinxes already. This thing is a failure, they need to blow it up.
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#71 » by MitchellUK » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:07 pm

It seems like I've replied to about 10 of these threads already today, but to keep things as succinct as possible:

- They have not gelled as quickly as they would like, undoubtedly.
- Wade is the only one of the Big Three who appears to be truly asserting himself right now. Lebron seems to be struggling to find the balance between creating for himself or creating for others, especially playing with two guys who don't necessarily need him to create something for them - they can do it themselves. Bosh looks poor at both ends right now. He's not heavily involved in the offense, and his defense and rebounding, something he was supposed to be leading the charge on for the Heat, are nowhere to be seen much of the time.
- Many of their team-mates ARE subpar. Big Z would be a fine backup for a truly great center. Joel Anthony is not one of those. Ditto Eddie House for Carlos Arroyo - both are less than good enough for a team wanting to contend for a championship. Especially Arroyo, who is utterly redundant; he can't defend, he's not required to run the offense, and he isn't a good shooter. Why is he even on the team? Once Miller returns, their bench will instantly look stronger, with Haslem and Mike to spell Bosh and Lebron/Wade, or occasionally play alongside them, but ultimately the center and point guard positions look horrible right now.
- All that said, 8 games. 8 GAMES! Give it time. If three months from now, Miller is back, the whole squad is healthy and they are still having nights when they are struggling, and Bosh and James aren't performing the way they are expected to, then it is time for this thread. As it is, the season is two frigging weeks old.
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Post#72 » by LApwnd » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:08 pm

nonemus wrote:wade missing everything hmm....it couldn't be partially be because of the Celts' defense, could it? shoot, in fact im gonna go pull the boxscore and see who else on the celts missed a lot of shots that night ....

and also, the Boston is @ home thing. i dont care who you are, good, no, GREAT teams win anywhere, on the road, at home, outdoors, et al.


Wade had one of the 10 worst games of his NBA career that night. He hasn't had as bad a game in 3 years. It definitely wasn't entirely due to the Celtics defense.[/quote]

Bosh stunk it up too, whats the excuse for him?
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Re: Is the experiment in Miami is failing? 

Post#73 » by IEcelticfan » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:09 pm

nonemus wrote:
IEcelticfan wrote:
coldfish wrote:Trust me, it is painful to defend the Heat, but their losses seem flukey. That loss against Boston was with Boston fully healthy, rested and at home. It also had Wade missing everything in his first game back and Miami still almost won. Even if they lose to Boston again, I just don't see how, after 82 games, Miami doesn't end up at the top of the heap in the East.


actually, i'd disagree a little, but juuuuust a little.

Celts was missing Perk & Delonte, JO & Shaq weren't 100%. Fully rested? LOL 1st game of the season and let me guess, ummm...Mia had an disadvantage and wasn't fully rested IN THEIR first game of the season, too. (dont know if you (care to) remember, the Celts actually played late into June, so if anything, they're "less rested" that 1ts rd exit wade, 2nd rd quitter the queen, and non-playoff participant rupaul lol).

wade missing everything hmm....it couldn't be partially be because of the Celts' defense, could it? shoot, in fact im gonna go pull the boxscore and see who else on the celts missed a lot of shots that night ....

and also, the Boston is @ home thing. i dont care who you are, good, no, GREAT teams win anywhere, on the road, at home, outdoors, et al.


Wade had one of the 10 worst games of his NBA career that night. He hasn't had as bad a game in 3 years. It definitely wasn't entirely due to the Celtics defense.


never said it was. in fact, it was just partially. wait, i did type that originall, no? yeah, just aprtial. i understand that players have terrible games every now n then.

what abt the rest ??
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Post#74 » by GoLakers2011 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:12 pm

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GoLakers2011 wrote:By manhandled I mean pushed around in the paint.

They are 5-3. There is no way you can they are the clear cut favorite in the East.

Their bench sucks, they have no size, or low post scoring.

They ain't gonna win the East this year.

That would be Boston.

Heat vs Lakers in the Finals
Heat will win 8-)

I can't tell if your serious or not. Miami as currently constructed has no chance against the Lakers in a series.

I doubt they would win a game.

If they got abused by Milsap/Okafor and a washed up Garnett and Shaq imagine what will happen when they face Gasol, Odom, and Bynum
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Post#75 » by jcuuofd » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:17 pm

People seem to forget that they destroyed the Magic and barely lost to the Celtics. They are going to get beat by a lot of teams from the western conference over the course of the regular season, but I don't see them losing to the Magic in the playoffs and its still too early to tell if they will lose to the Celtics.
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Post#76 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:19 pm

Can Bosh's nickname be the Trojan Raptor? I love it
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Post#77 » by ahonui06 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:21 pm

jcuuofd wrote:People seem to forget that they destroyed the Magic and barely lost to the Celtics. They are going to get beat by a lot of teams from the western conference over the course of the regular season, but I don't see them losing to the Magic in the playoffs and its still too early to tell if they will lose to the Celtics.


Boston was playing without their true defensive anchor, Kendrick Perkins and also Delonte West and they still beat the Heat. In a 7 game series, I have no doubt the Celtics would punish the Heat inside. If Paul Millsap can score 46 on them, imagine what Shaq/KG/Perkins can do.
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Post#78 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:22 pm

Classic, the Miami forum right now reads like they just lost the ECF.
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Post#79 » by bruddahmanmatt » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:26 pm

LApwnd wrote:
nonemus wrote:
Wade had one of the 10 worst games of his NBA career that night. He hasn't had as bad a game in 3 years. It definitely wasn't entirely due to the Celtics defense.


Bosh stunk it up too, whats the excuse for him?


There weren't enough cameras pointed at him. After all, at the end of the day it's all about being on TV. 8-)
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Post#80 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:27 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:Classic, the Miami forum right now reads like they just lost the ECF.

I'm disappointed. Most of the overreaction is coming from July 2010 join dates.

The good Heat fans hardly post on our board anymore.

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