Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

[Collie]

If that happens, they'd still not be much better than current Denver. Heck I'd probably take Nene over Brook Lopez right now.

[wang000hk]

the travis outlaw contract isn't bad enough

they want rip

They also want Al Harrington lol
What the hell is Billy King thinking?
Does he really think adding "talent" like Harrington can convince Melo to extend with them?
If the current Nuggets can't convince him to stay,then the Nets sure won't be able to.

[KnickelandDime]

Knicks fans are hilarious. They're calling fans of other teams delusional? Such irony.

Yeah because all Knicks fans think the exact same thoughts right?

Knicks can offer Gallo, their 2014 first, Eddy Curry's expiring, maybe a late first if they move a role player to a contender (Turiaf to the Magic or Azubuike to the Bulls both make sense) and a pick ranging somewhere between 12-25 depending on how high Randolph's value is when he is moved. Obviously the 4 or so firsts plus Favors and Murphy the Nets are offering trumps that offer, however I do think the Knicks offer would be good enough for the Nuggets to bite on in February if Melo really will only sign an extension with the Knicks. So I guess it hinges on whether or not Melo will settle on the Nets and nobody except for he and his wife know the answer to that.

[Ortho Stice]

Why do the Nets want Carmelo so badly? It seems like they're the only team that wants him, or are the only team that's trying to get him. And they want to give away several first round draft picks for him, as well as a potential future All-Star center, Favors. It's like the Wolves situation when Stern took away several Minnesota first round picks, leaving the Wolves unable to build around their star player, except the Nets would willfully give their picks away. Plus a prime Garnett was twice as good as Carmelo. Does Prokhorov plan on renaming his team the Brooklyn Anthony's? The logo will be ambiguous, a silhouette depicting either an Italian mobster or Carmelo. New York should just abandon basketball altogether. The Nets are a joke and the Knicks were a joke and IMO are still a joke.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Am I the only one who thinks this trade is good? Nets won't win a championship but they can make a push for the 4th seed. I would take that team over NY, Maybe even Chicago! Billups and Rip still got ball left in them just need to be put in winning situations.

[J Smitty]

The hardest part about rebuilding is getting a legit star/franchise player to build around and/or attract other free agents to come.

This is why teams like the Wolves, Clippers, Grizzlies, etc have had such a difficult time signing quality free agents, and therefore having any kind of sustained success, in recent years. When you're in a smaller market, the only thing that is going to attract quality players to sign with you, is if you can build at least a decent team with a solid foundation.

Sure, the Nets could keep taking swings in the draft and hoping to hit a home run at some point(like the Wolves have been since KG left)....or they could just trade one or two of those top picks and get a sure thing. And not only a sure thing, but a sure thing/top 10 player who is still only 25 years old.

Now if they give up the majority of their flexibility to get him, that's another issue. But the desire to get him is quite obvious. Especially with the move to Brooklyn in a couple years, they need something to sell those people when they get there....and who better than a superstar born in Brooklyn, who went to college in NY?

I think they're just in a "let's do what it takes to get this guy...and then if we do, sort everything else out later."

[step]

Am I the only one who thinks this trade is good?

There was a reason why Detroit wanted no part of it.

[The Rebel]

You would think people would learn after Wallace, Kobe, Shaq, Bosh, Lebron, and every other pending free agent that was not getting his way with the team he was with. new York is the common threat, but outside of amare has always been just a threat to help players get what they want.

[The Rebel]

Am I the only one who thinks this trade is good? Nets won't win a championship but they can make a push for the 4th seed. I would take that team over NY, Maybe even Chicago! Billups and Rip still got ball left in them just need to be put in winning situations.

No this deal is better for the Nets then most are seeing, RIP and Chauncey help now, and they get a top lotto pick from the Pistons to help long term, while only giving up slightly more then they are reported to agree to.

I can see why Detroit said no.

[9abovetherim]

Im little unclear how Rip helps them to get Melo.

[JoseRizal]

I feel sorry for you Nets fan, really I do, because your GM has brain washed you into thinking that Melo really does want to sign an extension, its just that the Nets do not have the proper assets to make the trade.

Really I do feel for your team. I'm not saying that Nets would not land Melo, they might, but it will be without that extension.

Haha sure so I guess all these rumors flying around about Melo and the Nets are just being made up for fun right? I'll believe ESPN over you anytime.

And the Nets would NEVER give up all their assets unless Melo signed an extension. They've made that very clear.

The fact of the matter is Denver isn't even gonna entertain the Knicks. Eddy Curry, Gallo, and no picks is perhaps one of the worst offers they've received.

Then you must believe this

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... f_traded/#

When your believable source is Chris Sheridan (A known Knick @ss kisser & Nets hater), you better think twice before posting this link...

[Ruhiel]

[Shaheen]

Why do the Nets want Carmelo so badly? It seems like they're the only team that wants him, or are the only team that's trying to get him. And they want to give away several first round draft picks for him, as well as a potential future All-Star center, Favors. It's like the Wolves situation when Stern took away several Minnesota first round picks, leaving the Wolves unable to build around their star player, except the Nets would willfully give their picks away. Plus a prime Garnett was twice as good as Carmelo. Does Prokhorov plan on renaming his team the Brooklyn Anthony's? The logo will be ambiguous, a silhouette depicting either an Italian mobster or Carmelo. New York should just abandon basketball altogether. The Nets are a joke and the Knicks were a joke and IMO are still a joke.

That's a ridiculous assertion. The Rockets and Knicks have both been busting their butts to get a shot at Carmelo. Also how is it like that at all? The Nets are giving up their pick this year which is one of the weakest drafts ever and a GS pick. That's not much drafting talent at all. Especially since the majority of these draft picks end up being busts anyway.

[klemen4]

I tried to do a trade on this NJN-DEN-DET rumor and it is so hard to do anything without at least around 10+ players involved.

This is the trade:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=2etwew4

Why so many players involved:

1) With Billups and Melo there are 30,2 mil going out so around 22+ mil must come in. Harris+Favors contract are only 13 mil so where to get additonal 9 mil?
- Vujacic is not possible because he can not be traded with a player
- Im sure Denver does not want Outlaw
- With Harris going to den and Lawson there also Farmar contract is not possible
- Morow 4 mil contract is the only one left
- From Det side only Wilcox 3 mil fits the bill, because Im sure DEN would not want Maxiel or Vallanueva and Prince from DET side is a no go.
-Still 2 mil short Ross and Graham must be included for this to work.

Now this is 6 incoming players to DEN. There roster stands at 14 - carmelo,billups is 12. So 3 more den player must be involved. Here there is an option for DEN to include Carter,Ely and Williams in a trade or to cut all 3 to make room for trade to go through. I think this 3 are the only possibility because the only other low contract is Forbes who they like and doubt would they cut.

From NJN side 7 players going out (Harris,Favors,Murphy, Petro,Morrow,Ross,Graham) and 6 coming in.

From DET side is simple, they send Hamilton to NJN and probably Wilcox to DEN taking in Murphy and Petro.

All the picks included are mystery of course.

Yes there are 14 players involved and I do not se a lot of other option fro this trade to be possible. Maybe 2-3 different small contract player going the other way around but that is it.

NJN team post this trade would be:

billups/farmar/carter/uzoh
hamilton/vujacic
anthony/outlaw/james
humphries/williams
lopez/ely

[Fat Kat]

Nets fan think about this.

Why is Nets pushing for a trade first then wanting to speak with Melo to convince him to sign an extension?

Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't the Nets FO seek for a trade AFTER the fact that they are 100% convinced that Melo will sign with them?

The way I see it, the Nets are playing Russian Roulette and betting that Melo will be convinced to sign that extension.

IMO waste of time, the Nets FO should be more focused on how to get better through other avenues. They are putting all their hopes on Melo signing the extension.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.2595192

[Flash3]

Even with NJ reportedly adding Rip and Chauncey to Melo, I don't seem them being better than Boston and eventually Miami or Orlando.

[AmareNY]

The Nets are trying hard to land Melo, got to give them credit for this. I would still be suprised to see Melo sign a extension with them. I see him signing with Chicago or the Knicks this summer.

[Blackmun]

Brook Lopez
(PF)
Melo
Rip
Chancy

Is a pretty solid team. It won't win a title but its a top 8 team in the East and would fill up some seats.

Yeah, I'm sure Melo is just dying to join a team that is going to be a "Top 8 team in the East". I guess he's all about filling up some seats in Newark, huh.

[Pablo Escobar]

I doubt Melo wants to go to the Nets

[osamu]

Melo will just walk and sign with the Knicks. I'm not sure what New Jersey is thinking :s