a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond

[atliens99]

lol, if this happened he would be considered goat in his first season no questions asked.

[Kilroy]

He would pretty much be GOAT. No one has ever shot 70% from three and if he did it there would be no questions that he would have the biggest impact on the game.

There's a few players out there that could hit at least 70% from 3 in the gym...

The problem is many of them can't average 35% in a game...

A guy like the one described probably couldn't 'average 70% from half court' in a game... In order to do that, you'd have to be elite in some physical way... Strength, quickness, verticle... Something... Because otherwise, you're just not getting too many shots off in the NBA unless you were wide open... And that wouldn't happen very often if you started hitting those shots.

Actually i think a lot of guys could easily hit 70% of 3 pointers in practice if they are just shooting with no defense. I remember watching an interview of Dirk last season during a practice and you could see Peja hit like 12 3s in a row. I bet guys like him, Ray Allen, Novak, Korver, etc.... could all hit over 70% of 3s with no defense

Yeah, I actually think a hell of a lot of NBA players could do that in practice... I remember Kobe saying Vujacic hardly ever missed in practice... I think Fisher and Walton had similar reputations... And Bynum recently challenged the team to a 3pt shooting competition and won.

I was just trying to be conservative in an attempt to avoid derailing the discussion.

The point is that even the worst of the guys mentioned is still at least an 'average' NBA athlete and none of them average anywhere near 70%...

It's just not going to be possible for a below average athlete with below average physical gifts to average anywhere near 70% from half court.

Now if you just wanted to call him an 'NBA Talented 5'8" PG that could amazingly average 70% from HC'...

But still, 70% is kind of a ridiculous number.

[spearsy23]

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I was just trying to be conservative in an attempt to avoid derailing the discussion.

Attempt failed?

[LikeABosh]

lol, if this happened he would be considered goat in his first season no questions asked.

You guys are killing me

[Kilroy]

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I was just trying to be conservative in an attempt to avoid derailing the discussion.

Attempt failed?

Clearly...

Fortunately, I'm not sure how much legs the original discussion has left.

[Reginald Wayne]

Any stipulation on his shooting form?

If he can shoot runners, hooks, and floaters from half court at 70% then he owns.

[HurricaneKid]

I think some of you aren't thinking this through. If he's too short and slow and can't handle the ball, it won't matter how good he can shoot, because he'll never get a clear look. Teams won't have to double him, they would just stick a single man on him and tell the defender, "Don't worry about help defense. Don't do anything but guard this guy. Never leave him open."

Screens won't work because the defense would just switch.

Now, that's not to say he wouldn't score or provide us with some entertainment, but I don't think it's the panacea y'all are making it out to be.

Look at how hard a Ray Allen or Reggie Miller had to work to find open looks throughout their careers. My guess is they make 7 out of 10 of their 3 pointers in practice. But they can't maintain that over multiple games because teams don't leave them that much space. They are constantly in motion, constantly running around double screens, constantly making cuts, and more often than not they still don't get a wide open look. They're forced to elevate over the defender and shoot blindly with a hand in their face. And that's with the benefit of a 24 second shot clock. Y'all are talking about trying to run backcourt sets for a some average Joe in 8 seconds or less.

Elite 3pt shooters like allen and miller generally makes 85-90%+ in practice.
70% is a very low number for a guy like allen and miller.Heck back in college and high school i used to make 70% of may 3pt while playing by myself.

This. My AAU coach told us all the time it was a bad shot if you couldn't make it 80% in practice. And quite a few of us shot higher than that from 3 when he called us out.

Most people have NO idea how good these guys are.

Google DeShawn Stevenson vs Gilbert Arenas. Arenas had been challenging Stevenson to a contest for ages. Agent Zero would shoot one handed from college threes against DS shooting NBA 3s. The video is pretty impressive.

[Ozark]

A player of that size with average athleticism couldn't even receive the ball off the inbound, couldn't get the shot off, couldn't pass out of a trap, couldn't be on the court when playing defense, so on and so forth.

He wouldn't be left alone after he hit 2-3 of those shots, so no, this player could not play in the NBA, and if he could make 70% of his shots from any distance, he would not be of average athleticism to begin with.

Someone of average athleticism and average to below size would never get the ball in their hands unless the other team simply chose to ignore them. If they shot 70%, they would not be ignored.

So in other words, no.

[bigbreakfast]

but was below average in every other area and was 5'8 would he be in the NBA

I can shoot close to 100% on layups, and I'm exactly 5'8 and just above average in every other area. Do I have a shot in the NBA? No? but I shoot close to 100% though!

[Ugalde]

Did everyone forget about the back court violation. The minute the ball got past half court he is useless. No spacing at all.

[Ayt]

He'd easily be the best player in history. How is this debatable?

[Rebuilding Year]

You would be unbeatable even with his bad defense. Just keep the entire team back on D and pass around until you get him am open look. They're never going to catch up when you're not giving up transition baskets and you're scoring 2.1 points per possession. You'd be undefeated.

[MartyConlonJr]

I agree, OP is 5'8 and had THAT dream. I've had it before (I'm 6'0 though), where you have no other discernable skill but can just jack shots from anywhere. Very Space Jam.

If your NBA 3PT% after the season was 70%, not that you can hit 70% when wide open or in practice (most NBA players can do that), then it would probably earn you a roster spot on the right roster, one with a SG/SF with great handles.

Your team would ask itself whether they can play 4 1/2 on 5 on defense every time down and defend at an efficiency better than the 2.1 points per possession you are getting back on the three pointer at the other end.

To anyone that doesn't get the point of being able to shoot past half court, when there are 8 second violations, you do realise half court is 47 feet or something (from memory). Camp a 5'8 dude out there, Mike Miller in the corner and leave Dwyane Wade or Lebron with the ball at the top of the key. Imagine the room to operate. With the defenders staying at home.

[dballislife]

so no matter what hes a 70 percent 3 throw shooter? he could average 200 pts a game then

[hayguise]

Guys, if it's fixed that he always shot 70% beyond half court, he wouldn't have to be open. He could chuck up any shot ever and it would go in 70% of the time for three points.

This guy would be the GOAT.

[Tave]

He'd easily be the best player in history. How is this debatable?

Because of this little-bitty qualification:

but was below average in every other area and was 5'8 would he be in the NBA

A 5'8" player with below average speed (slow), below average quickness (no explosiveness), below average hops (flatfooted), below average coordination (klutz), below average court vision/awareness (no BBIQ), below average passing (easily trapped), below average handles (turnover prone), below average defense (liability), below average strength (weak), below average stamina (out of shape), etc...is going to have an incredibly difficult time getting his shot off no matter how well he shoots or where he can shoot it from.

I don't care if he can make 90% of his half-court shots, it won't matter if his defender just steals the ball from him before he shoots it or packs it back into his face.

That's not to say he couldn't drain a few. Sure, his man might lose him a couple times a game or he might cherry-pick a few or get himself open in transition, but it won't be enough to matter, especially when you consider that he'd be getting torched on defense every possession.

Most players need a running start and have to jump off one foot to make those shots and give them any sort of accuracy, or else they have to heave it like a football, which requires a good deal of strength and isn't accurate at all. Even then both approaches require a lot of space and are very easy to block when you know they're coming.

Unless the OP would have us believe that this magical, 5'8" wunderkind with no lift and weak arms is going to pop up and hit contested full court shots with perfect form, it ain't happening. And it won't, because that violates the laws of physics.

The only way it could possibly work is if it went something like this:

Any stipulation on his shooting form?

If he can shoot runners, hooks, and floaters from half court at 70% then he owns.

But that's not reality, that's Candyland.

I can wrap my mind around someone being able to knock down full court or half court shots at a high clip on an open court with plenty of space. I can't imagine some asthmatic, uncoordinated average Joe with a noodle arm shooting that percentage while heaving up running hook shots and behind the back junk over NBA defenders.

[ERRDAY3]

I agree, OP is 5'8 and had THAT dream. I've had it before (I'm 6'0 though), where you have no other discernable skill but can just jack shots from anywhere. Very Space Jam.

If your NBA 3PT% after the season was 70%, not that you can hit 70% when wide open or in practice (most NBA players can do that), then it would probably earn you a roster spot on the right roster, one with a SG/SF with great handles.

Your team would ask itself whether they can play 4 1/2 on 5 on defense every time down and defend at an efficiency better than the 2.1 points per possession you are getting back on the three pointer at the other end.

To anyone that doesn't get the point of being able to shoot past half court, when there are 8 second violations, you do realise half court is 47 feet or something (from memory). Camp a 5'8 dude out there, Mike Miller in the corner and leave Dwyane Wade or Lebron with the ball at the top of the key. Imagine the room to operate. With the defenders staying at home.

i didn't have have a dream about this i did hit like 4 half court shots in a row two weeks before making this but it wasn't in my head when i made. The ****

[Bertrob]

Still legendary

[ERRDAY3]

how about it was Nate Robinson shooting 70%

[Left Side Drive]

how about it was Nate Robinson shooting 70%

GOAT