Celtics planning offer for Gortat

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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#61 » by chandlerbang23 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:41 pm

celtics need inside scoring and rebounding, he fits the bill perfectly+
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#62 » by Clyde Frazier » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:41 pm

Fischella wrote:Bradley is better than Gortat, if Ainge trades Bradley to the Suns this is Joe Johnson 2.0


You're essentially saying Bradley's a future all star? Sounds a bit exaggerated to me.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#63 » by orange_juice32 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:45 pm

Wow, tough decision.

On the one hand, adding Gortat will significantly improve their chances of coming out of the East. but Bradley looks very promising as well.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#64 » by JackFinn » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:46 pm

The Suns would be insane to trade Gortat. They should just resolve their little conflict and move on.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#65 » by lazfa199 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:51 pm

Stupid trade the suns need to just keep giving Gortat more time on the court with Markeef instead of Scola and he'll be fine
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#66 » by COY0607 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:53 pm

wow... i understand that celtic fans like bradley and are high on him, but damn.... hes being treated like he's kemba walker/klay thompson (even waiters) like guard prospect.... gortat would be a great get for the celtics, especially if bradley is the biggest piece they give up
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#67 » by No-Man » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:57 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:
Fischella wrote:Bradley is better than Gortat, if Ainge trades Bradley to the Suns this is Joe Johnson 2.0


You're essentially saying Bradley's a future all star? Sounds a bit exaggerated to me.

Yes, no doubt, if he stays healthy and stay away from injuries, like his shoulders... of course, top5 SG in 2-3 years.

The guy is special.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#68 » by No-Man » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:58 pm

COY0607 wrote:wow... i understand that celtic fans like bradley and are high on him, but damn.... hes being treated like he's kemba walker/klay thompson (even waiters) like guard prospect.... gortat would be a great get for the celtics, especially if bradley is the biggest piece they give up

Bradley is a better prospect than Waiters and Thompson, even with Kemba, but I think Bradley would be more important cause he's a SG and the position it's in trouble right now.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#69 » by Speedlot » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:05 am

Bradley is a stud... unless celtics know something.
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Post#70 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:06 am

Bradley is able to stop point guard penetration which is something rondo has a hard time doing. Bradley allows rondo to gamble and play the passing lanes which rondo loves doing. Bradley might never be an all star but he means a lot to our defense.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#71 » by No-Man » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:07 am

Speedlot wrote:Bradley is a stud... unless celtics know something.

that's the only thing that worry me, the shoulders, is a tricky injury and maybe they know that's something chronic.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#72 » by chandlerbang23 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:09 am

sad to see scola struggle so much in the pheonix offense.
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Post#73 » by rickrolled » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:11 am

Our SG position has been a weakness, and to make a deal work we'd have to include Lee as he is the first of Green/Bass/Lee that can be traded on (dec 15).

So NO way we trade half of our SG's Lee+Bradley! And just keep Terry and Barbosa, Terry is 34 and Barbosa is probably leaving next year.

With Gortat, they are going to move KG back to the 4, with Bass coming off the bench. Then have Gortat and Wilcox at the 5. I think there will be minutes for Sullinger at both 4 and 5 but i'm thinking he might be traded.

I hope not anyway, he was/is a top 10 talent maybe top 5-6 in this years draft.

Ainge is going to have to recruit a 3rd team if he want's to keep Sullinger, maybe take on Dudley for a pick or prospect. Rockets have a weakness at the SF with Royce White situation, and Delfino/parsons aren't that good. Maybe send them Royce White I don't know.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#74 » by sunskerr » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:13 am

rickrolled wrote:Our SG position has been a weakness, and to make a deal work we'd have to include Lee as he is the first of Green/Bass/Lee that can be traded on (dec 15).

So NO way we trade half of our SG's Lee+Bradley! And just keep Terry and Barbosa, Terry is 34 and Barbosa is probably leaving next year.

With Gortat, they are going to move KG back to the 4, with Bass coming off the bench. Then have Gortat and Wilcox at the 5. I think there will be minutes for Sullinger at both 4 and 5 but i'm thinking he might be traded.

I hope not anyway, he was/is a top 10 talent maybe top 5-6 in this years draft.

Ainge is going to have to recruit a 3rd team if he want's to keep Sullinger, maybe take on Dudley for a pick or prospect. Rockets have a weakness at the SF with Royce White situation, and Delfino/parsons aren't that good. Maybe send them Royce White I don't know.


You certainly seem to have a unique take on a player's value. Are you suggesting you can acquire Gortat without trading Bradley and a player like Sullinger?
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#75 » by No-Man » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:15 am

If I'm the C's my offer would be something like Lee+Sullinger+2nd, nothing more.
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Post#76 » by rickrolled » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:19 am

sunskerr wrote:
rickrolled wrote:Our SG position has been a weakness, and to make a deal work we'd have to include Lee as he is the first of Green/Bass/Lee that can be traded on (dec 15).

So NO way we trade half of our SG's Lee+Bradley! And just keep Terry and Barbosa, Terry is 34 and Barbosa is probably leaving next year.

With Gortat, they are going to move KG back to the 4, with Bass coming off the bench. Then have Gortat and Wilcox at the 5. I think there will be minutes for Sullinger at both 4 and 5 but i'm thinking he might be traded.

I hope not anyway, he was/is a top 10 talent maybe top 5-6 in this years draft.

Ainge is going to have to recruit a 3rd team if he want's to keep Sullinger, maybe take on Dudley for a pick or prospect. Rockets have a weakness at the SF with Royce White situation, and Delfino/parsons aren't that good. Maybe send them Royce White I don't know.


You certainly seem to have a unique take on a player's value. Are you suggesting you can acquire Gortat without trading Bradley and a player like Sullinger?


actually i said sullinger might get traded in this situation.. im positive though...bradley is not part of any deal for Gortat.
if suns could get a 3rd team offering better than sullinger ainge will try his best to find one.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#77 » by sunskerr » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:22 am

Well I'm a Suns fan and from my point of view Avery is an absolute must in any package from the Celtics for Gortat - of course barring a 3rd team sending something of equal or similar value.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#78 » by Clyde Frazier » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:22 am

Fischella wrote:
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Fischella wrote:Bradley is better than Gortat, if Ainge trades Bradley to the Suns this is Joe Johnson 2.0


You're essentially saying Bradley's a future all star? Sounds a bit exaggerated to me.

Yes, no doubt, if he stays healthy and stay away from injuries, like his shoulders... of course, top5 SG in 2-3 years.

The guy is special.


I think you're overrating him. Very undersized SG who's obviously a good on the ball defender, but outside of that corner 3 and decent cuts to the basket, he doesn't give you much more offensively. Then again I still have hope gallinari will be an all star one day, so we all have our hangups.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#79 » by nuposse04 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:35 am

Boston has little to offer for Gortat IMO, Bradly doesn't seem like someone who could really be relied upon offensively. Pretty sure they could find much better suitors than Boston if they REALLY wanted to get rid of Gortat.
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Re: Celtics planning offer for Gortat 

Post#80 » by AKFO » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:37 am

Clyde Frazier wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:
You're essentially saying Bradley's a future all star? Sounds a bit exaggerated to me.

Yes, no doubt, if he stays healthy and stay away from injuries, like his shoulders... of course, top5 SG in 2-3 years.

The guy is special.


I think you're overrating him. Very undersized SG who's obviously a good on the ball defender, but outside of that corner 3 and decent cuts to the basket, he doesn't give you much more offensively. Then again I still have hope gallinari will be an all star one day, so we all have our hangups.

Yeah except he is only 21 and has several years to go until he peaks. He was scoring 15 ppg as a starter last year, and that is just a small sample size of his offensive potential. That being said, I would not give up Bradley for Gortat. Maybe Bass+Lee+Melo+Picks for Gortat+Filler. I probably wouldn't even part with Lee though.
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