Why isn't anyone giving Lin a chance with the Rockets?

[Hero]

My question is, who's better, Lin or 2000-2003 Fisher ?

[bigbadstevenson]

is more of a deceptively athletic than truly physically athletic guard.

Please, please explain to me how Lin is deceptively athletic. I'd love to hear this.

Wellllll... step 1 is convincing people that you're really not athletic.

Step 2 is becoming athletic.

He's only one step away.

[Total_Package]

It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

If he wasn't Asian there would have never been such a hype about him. There are barely Asians players in the league, finally one has tremendous success with the beautiful story attached and there you go.


There you go, another way to put it.

Yup.. this. If Lin wasn't Asian nobody would even care... including most of China. Let's be honest the only reason Houston signed him was because of the China connection. Lin is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

[Durant Durant]

It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

If he wasn't Asian there would have never been such a hype about him. There are barely Asians players in the league, finally one has tremendous success with the beautiful story attached and there you go.


There you go, another way to put it.

Yup.. this. If Lin wasn't Asian nobody would even care... including most of China. Let's be honest the only reason Houston signed him was because of the China connection. Lin is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

how can an undrafted player be overrated? lmao.

[Total_Package]

As a Bucks fan...

I'm sorry dude. You deserve better than Jennings & Mayo. Lin may indeed be a better team player than those guys.

Jennings can play like a superstar one night and then the biggest stiff in the world the next. He would be much better coming of the bench, but he looks negatively at that prospect. Lin is clearly a superior floor general to Jennings and much more a team player. Jenning's attitude stinks. He thinks he's a great player, but he's a lot less than that. I actually like "Monta have it all" Ellis more than Jennings

There was a very good reason Jennings went to Italy first before going to College.



That's all Jennings has ever been about. Money and bling. In Jennings mind he should be an all-star playing in New York.

[Total_Package]

Yup.. this. If Lin wasn't Asian nobody would even care... including most of China. Let's be honest the only reason Houston signed him was because of the China connection. Lin is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

how can an undrafted player be overrated? lmao.

Overhyped? He is overhyped because he is Asian. On talent alone he is a scrub.

[WD]

IMO-Some fans have turned into "what ave you done for me this quarter" fans....I like LIN, thought he was a bit overhyped, but it is what it is.......

[realgm1980]

Lin is a fine fit, imo. I love how people crucify lin for his turnovers but give harden a pass -_-

Dude his TO% is well above Harden's, and Harden's having to worry about a lot more.

because Harden shoot a lots, the more you shoot the lower your TO% is

[junot111]

I wouldn't dare try to take credit for "inventing" racial prejudices and stereotypes which have been around long before I was born. Perhaps you have not heard of his path to the NBA and how he was neglected every step of the way due to people's inaccurate perceptions of him? Nor did I invent jealousy and envy, basic human traits that also contribute to people's blind hate for athletes like Lin. No one is marginalizing anyone's opinion, but they're exactly that, OPINIONS which reflect one's bias.

And I'm glad you think he's a nice kid, but you don't speak for all those that show blatant hate towards Lin for no apparent reason other than that they think he does not deserve the fame and recognition he's received. It is clear that some people simply don't want to acknowledge his success and will look for any opening to bash him. These people constantly spew out inaccurate statements about his game, such as the myth that he can't shoot, that' he's overpaid, that he can't play defense, etc. Such ignorance just proves that some people refuse to find out the truth and will state anything in order to favour their own opinion.

You making that ridiculous claim marginalizes every other player black, white or other who ever got overlooked in their path to the NBA, as if this is some unique hardship he has had to endure. Newsflash, everyone has their own personal struggles and hardships. DJ Mbenga was freaking about to be executed in his home country. Why don't you take a few minutes and educate yourself on Leandro Barbosa's childhood.

So please forgive us for not lining up for Jeremy Lin pity party parade.

Thank you for the basketball analytics lesson, please tell me then what it is an indicator of, how good a defender that player is? Unlike many posters that choose to speak on what they don't know, I've actually watched the majority of the Rockets games this past season, and that is what I base my opinions on. However to those that have not watched them, I present statistics as a means to prove my point. What is it that you have presented to prove yours?

Watch closer, because you are seeing what you want to see.

You clearly just don't want to accept the fact that much of the criticism against him is unjust and purely based on hate, because the evidence of it is clear as day.

I thank you again for the lesson. "watch closer" wow you must know a lot. You just shut down my whole argument by telling me to watch closer. Thank you for proving that your opinion has absolutely no basis.

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[Baller 24]

He's fine, at the start of last season he had some issues adjusting with his injury and sharing the ball so much. But he found his groove, he was doing liek 39% 3PT to close out the final 38 games of the season. He plays excellent defense (above average no doubt). I don't think the Rockets are going to make any changes and I expect Lin to contribute just fine. He knows if he fully reaches his potential he can be a true "X-Factor" on this team, I think the playoffs (where he had 2 injuries and looked incredibly slow) kind of left a sour taste to the national public.

[Vides990]

Yup.. this. If Lin wasn't Asian nobody would even care... including most of China. Let's be honest the only reason Houston signed him was because of the China connection. Lin is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

how can an undrafted player be overrated? lmao.

B/c a lot of people on this board seem to think he is starting pg material. LOL.

[Baller 24]

Yup.. this. If Lin wasn't Asian nobody would even care... including most of China. Let's be honest the only reason Houston signed him was because of the China connection. Lin is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

how can an undrafted player be overrated? lmao.

B/c a lot of people on this board seem to think he is starting pg material. LOL.

What's wrong with that? 13.4 PPG/6 APG on 44%/34% 3PT (39% to finish the last 42 games), w/excellent D (1.6 SPG) is fine for a starting point guard, I'll go onto say that's average to slightly above average.

[AmazingJason]

Lin is always going to be controversial because he is Asian. He has tons of positive attention from fellow Asians - who love basketball - and people who love his story - which is a great one. On the other side, he has haters because of that attention and the fact that Asians in general still have lower social status in the US.

The truth is that as a player, he is somewhere in the middle. He is overpaid, but most NBA players are anyway, whether you are a star or role player. I personally think he is fine where is now. He is going to be a 4th or 5th option and a secondary ball-handler. He has always been a good defender, and now he can focus more of his energy into that instead of "Linsanity". He shot well from 3PT territory the 2nd half of last season and he is no doubt working on that. If he can shot 38%+ from 3PT, attack when his teammates create openings for him, and play good defense from the PG position, he'll be a plus.

[Durant Durant]

Yup.. this. If Lin wasn't Asian nobody would even care... including most of China. Let's be honest the only reason Houston signed him was because of the China connection. Lin is one of the most overrated players in the NBA.

how can an undrafted player be overrated? lmao.

B/c a lot of people on this board seem to think he is starting pg material. LOL.

I see him as starting PG material too.

people just want him to fail from the get-go somehow. JR Smith salty? looking at the NBA statistics for PGs efficiency for last season. Rubio and Lin are consecutive bottom 20. Lin's team made it to the playoffs. and Rubio gets all the love (no pun intended).

[H20FAN]

It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

Absurd.

Jeremy Lin is a fine player, but he is not what the Rockets need. His strengths are running the break and running the pick and roll. Unfortunately, Harden is superior in that regard and his backup is a better fit for what the Rockets are doing, at a fraction of the cost.

What the Rockets need is a guy who can spot up shoot, defend and not turn the ball over. That is not Lin. He needs to go to a team where he can assume the role of primary ball handler.

This sums up the whole thread. Rockets need a guy like a young Derek fisher. A spot shooter who can defend other PGs.

[Slava]

I wonder how different people might talk of Lin if he was the 6th man on the Spurs running pick and rolls with a big guy every time down the floor. He's likely not going to hit those Linsanity levels with his shooting but he's a really good player when used for his strengths, which Mike D'Antoni did in NY.

Popovic rightfully gets credit for making guys like Neal & Green look halfway decent in the NBA but Mike D and Lin deserve credit for his evolution as well.

Like Doctor. MJ mentioned earlier in this thread, Presti's stupidity in trading Harden altered the landscape of the West for Houston and Lin's role seized to exist before it even began and now as the snow ball continues to roll on, Asik, who would have been Lin's pick and roll partner is going to be phased out as well or both can be used off the bench.

[azuresou1]

Amazing how Lin can still have so many racist haters despite proving that he's not just a flash-in-the-pan like Flip Murray.

On-topic: Lin won't be any worse next year in Houston than he was this past year, but he's not an ideal fit. He's not as consistent a shooter as you'd like, and even he knows it, which hurts his aggressiveness and confidence. He's at his best with the ball in his hand looking to score off penetration; as a fourth option you're better off replacing him with guys like Calderon or Jack or Lowry.

[Ikcelaks]

I wonder how different people might talk of Lin if he was the 6th man on the Spurs running pick and rolls with a big guy every time down the floor. He's likely not going to hit those Linsanity levels with his shooting but he's a really good player when used for his strengths, which Mike D'Antoni did in NY.

Popovic rightfully gets credit for making guys like Neal & Green look halfway decent in the NBA but Mike D and Lin deserve credit for his evolution as well.

Like Doctor. MJ mentioned earlier in this thread, Presti's stupidity in trading Harden altered the landscape of the West for Houston and Lin's role seized to exist before it even began and now as the snow ball continues to roll on, Asik, who would have been Lin's pick and roll partner is going to be phased out as well or both can be used off the bench.

Yep, I really like Lin as a back-up pg for a top-tier team who can come in and take the load off the team's primary ball-handling star. I just don't see him bringing value as a starter beside Harden and Howard, because he's not an effective floor-spacer.

IMO, a guard paired with Harden needs to be elite as either a shooter or defender (or cheap). Lin isn't.

[SUN]

It is Lin's skin color and last name. He has been treated this way the whole life. He will deal with it.

Just because some guy made a Rush Hour joke doesn't mean Lin is Rodney King.

[kobe808lak]

Dwight has one of the better hands in the NBA

He has stone hands.