Who deserves the Nets blame?

[Kobe8Forever]

Ironic coming from the guy with Kobe as his username.

Do you even know what ironic means? Lay off the fancy college words bro.

[Joseph17]

Kidd. Livingston was leading the team back in the game in the 4th and Kidd responded to that by benching him. If D-Will and Johnson are playing poorly, take them out of the game.

[Massamba]

Nets , Lakers same issues. It's more a business deal than anything else. Having a rookie coach as JKidd, 2 futur HOF that planed to retire this summer. DWill that may be injured. Brook Lopez who can't play an entire season. At least they will sell jerseys and other deals.

[delfam]

Billy King deserves all the blame, him or Prokorhov.

Signing Kidd was just stupid, atleast make him an assistant and bring in a real coach.

That trade they did was awlful, they still aren't better than Miami and ruined their future for the next 5 years. Williams, Johnson, and Pierce are all alpha dogs who need the ball in their hand to succeed.

I don't get why GM's think they can just put 5 of the best players on the floor and think its good. Every team needs hustle players, role players, guys that mesh. These team is just not that.

[TDevilsG]

Overreaction thy name is realgm. Give the team some time to gel and build chemistry, let the coach learn how to utilize his players efficiently, get Williams to play well and get Kirilenko better and this team will be fine.

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[Froob]

bass has become a beast on defense. maybe brooklyn can give us the rest of the picks they didn't give us over the next decade.

[USA]

I know it is a cliche but they are built for the playoffs. Rookie head coach plus 2 new but old stars, it takes time to gel and get all the kinks worked out.

[Froob]

Ironic coming from the guy with Kobe as his username.

Do you even know what ironic means? Lay off the fancy college words bro.

Filibuster.

[prophet_of_rage]

I know it is a cliche but they are built for the playoffs. Rookie head coach plus 2 new but old stars, it takes time to gel and get all the kinks worked out.

The rookie head coach makes this a lie. How are you going to be built for the playoffs with a rookie head coach when the game is all about adjustments. You can still get run out of the playoffs if you can't impose your style on the other team. Right now the Nets can't impose their will on another team.

Also forgotten in the one point win over Miami was that it was the home opener and the head coach was Lawrence Frank not Jason Kidd. They've been on a losing streak with Kidd in charge.

[USA]

I know it is a cliche but they are built for the playoffs. Rookie head coach plus 2 new but old stars, it takes time to gel and get all the kinks worked out.

The rookie head coach makes this a lie. How are you going to be built for the playoffs with a rookie head coach when the game is all about adjustments. You can still get run out of the playoffs if you can't impose your style on the other team. Right now the Nets can't impose their will on another team.

Also forgotten in the one point win over Miami was that it was the home opener and the head coach was Lawrence Frank not Jason Kidd. They've been on a losing streak with Kidd in charge.

I was referring to the players not the coach when I said built for the playoffs.

[dobrojim]

At least trader joe stopped making 1 thread a day about the nets or asking questions if bulls are legit, rose will be rose, or if they are any good.

to answer the question... father time.
it happens to everybody folks, we saw MJ in Washington, at some point no matter how hard u practice and try, your body won't respond as well as when u are in your 20' s.
Kg looks really done, JJ wasn' t much of a superstar so the decline looks worse than it should and idk what happened to Williams?

BUT THE MOST SURPRISING is their BENCH> i thought they had legit deep bench, but i don' t see it in performance. they don' t really impact the game much and help starters that well except maybe that game against the heat.

also coach kidd so far i dont see anything he brings to the table other then name recognition lol
it will take him few seasons to get it going.

long time wizards fan here...used to think Blatche could be a good player. Was
glad when we amnestied his sorry rear end. Was surprised he actually played halfway
decently for the Nets last year. Not surprised at all that he seems to have reverted
to his old level of awful. If your first big off the bench is Blatche, things may not
go that well. This has been amplified by the apparent decline of KG so far.

[SF_Warriors]

Still early, but 2-5 is a very poor record.

I'd put some blame on kidd, but really Billy King is the guy who hired him.

With such strong veteran voices and egos on this team, it is hard to believe kidd can help them get through tough times like this by keeping guys in check, focused on their roles, and follow the system/gameplan.

It is hard for a couple reasons:
1) Lack of experience
2) Kidd played against all those guys and is not too far apart age-wise from most of them. He is more like a peer than a mentor at this stage. hard to really convey the type of messages he is trying to get across as some of the guys on the team may not take him as seriously.

But back to King.
1) I do not get how this guy thought it was a good idea bringing in a rookie coach fresh out of the league to coach a bunch of hard-nosed veterans who have a win now mentality with a short window.
2) To make things worse, nets may have the largest collection of immovable contracts in NBA history.
3) They also traded away a lot of picks. That will hamper them in the future when trying to acquire veteran talent. The KG and PP trade really stings. No good team couldve afforded those contracts. Boston was ogign to have to give them away sooner or later. But hey, why not give away picks to get two guys no one else had the means to get anyways.
4) Signing AK was pure luck. How often does a guy take less than half the money he could get to play for a team unless he has some kind of personal relationship with the owner or something. Not many solid Russian players around for signings like this to be a routine occurence

To Nets fans I've argued with. Still think King is a good GM? The guy literally can do this because they have a payroll over 20 mill higher than the next highest paid team, and he is mismanaging it big time.

On the bright side. Nets don't really need first round picks. They now have the Laker model for team building. Sign free agents at top dollar since the owner is so willing to spend.
Those LA championship teams really did not have any use for first round picks either.

[pross]

Ironic coming from the guy with Kobe as his username.

Do you even know what ironic means? Lay off the fancy college words bro.

I don't know what backward school you went to, because ironic is a basic word that even my 8 year old nephew understands. If you can't see the irony in your previous statement talking about KG being the "GOAT Douchebags" with "kobe" as your username, then maybe you should go back to school.

[HeatRing2012]

to me it's Deron.

he's their franchise player, and those should be able to overcome either bad coaching or bad teammates.
his supporting cast is strong, so the blame should be directed at Williams.

[Kobe8Forever]

Ironic coming from the guy with Kobe as his username.

Do you even know what ironic means? Lay off the fancy college words bro.

I don't know what backward school you went to, because ironic is a basic word that even my 8 year old nephew understands. If you can't see the irony in your previous statement talking about KG being the "GOAT Douchebags" with "kobe" as your username, then maybe you should go back to school.

If you know the definition so well, why don't you explain "how" it is ironic then. This should be entertaining.

[eagereyez]

I said this during the off season and argued with just about every Nets homer there was- JKidd will not be a good coach this season, and signing him as their head coach was possibly the worst contract the Nets have given out (which says a lot).

No matter how good Kidd MIGHT become in the future, the Nets have always been a win now team. So many homers posted things like "it doesn't matter, Kidd has veterans surrounding him", "Kidd has great assistants to help him". There was so much bias it was unbelievable. The bottom line is this: Kidd is a rookie head coach with 0 experience. He's never even worked as an assistant coach. All that garbage about him being a player-coach during his NBA career was simply irrelevant, because it won't translate. It would be hilarious if Kidd was fired by the Nets before the AS break.

[pross]

Do you even know what ironic means? Lay off the fancy college words bro.

I don't know what backward school you went to, because ironic is a basic word that even my 8 year old nephew understands. If you can't see the irony in your previous statement talking about KG being the "GOAT Douchebags" with "kobe" as your username, then maybe you should go back to school.

If you know the definition so well, why don't you explain "how" it is ironic then. This should be entertaining.

I thought you would have figured it out in the last post but you're a Kobe fan, so I can see how it might be hard to comprehend.

You called KG the "GOAT douchebags" when in actual fact, the man who you so clearly idolize "Mr Kobe Bryant", is obviously a bigger douchebag and as I would put it, the "GOAT douchebags". So the irony of the situation is the guy you idolize is in actual fact the biggest douchebag, not the person you actual mentioned in KG.

Simple enough?

[Kobe8Forever]

I don't know what backward school you went to, because ironic is a basic word that even my 8 year old nephew understands. If you can't see the irony in your previous statement talking about KG being the "GOAT Douchebags" with "kobe" as your username, then maybe you should go back to school.

If you know the definition so well, why don't you explain "how" it is ironic then. This should be entertaining.

I thought you would have figured it out in the last post but you're a Kobe fan, so I can see how it might be hard to comprehend.

You called KG the "GOAT douchebags" when in actual fact, the man who you so clearly idolize "Mr Kobe Bryant", is obviously a bigger douchebag and as I would put it, the "GOAT douchebags". So the irony of the situation is the guy you idolize is in actual fact the biggest douchebag, not the person you actual mentioned in KG.

Simple enough?

So many faulty assumptions. Still nothing ironic.

[mopper8]

I think if you'd seriously suggested KG was unlikeable because he was a douchebag that'd be ironic in the sense that it's not really congruous for someone to like douchebag player A but find player B unlikeable because he's a douchebag.

However, since you called him a douchebag almost affectionately, it wasn't really ironic.

[Paradise]

I said this during the off season and argued with just about every Nets homer there was- JKidd will not be a good coach this season, and signing him as their head coach was possibly the worst contract the Nets have given out (which says a lot).

No matter how good Kidd MIGHT become in the future, the Nets have always been a win now team. So many homers posted things like "it doesn't matter, Kidd has veterans surrounding him", "Kidd has great assistants to help him". There was so much bias it was unbelievable. The bottom line is this: Kidd is a rookie head coach with 0 experience. He's never even worked as an assistant coach. All that garbage about him being a player-coach during his NBA career was simply irrelevant, because it won't translate. It would be hilarious if Kidd was fired by the Nets before the AS break.

It's not all on Kidd. The system itself works. The defense looks better. The ball movement is there when they want to move it.

But the real issue here is this "veteran" team plays lazy basketball against inferior teams and decide to show up against Miami/Indiana.

This is stuff that happened last season under two different coaches, so I think the blame should be placed on the two stars.