Both Kings And Cousins Hinting At Possible Offseason Trade.

[slicedbread2]

There is absolutely no way you trade a franchise player in Cousins.

For Sacramento, this would be a nightmare as the fanbase has put up with a lot of crap and has supported the team through thick and thin whether it was incompetent management and ownership or other nonsense, but to trade Cousins would be a PR nightmare. The only way you trade him is if say he tells you that it'd be best to move on and he wants to go elsewhere. Until then, slowly and patiently build the team to be better. It's not easy since they are in the west, but they have the #6 pick most likely in this year's draft and could use it on someone who fits with Cousins(Porzingis perhaps?) or use it to move down in the lottery and dump some contracts(Thompson/Landry) while collecting more picks and or assets to fill out the roster.

They aren't that far away and Karl being hired on was a good move especially after the Malone debacle. I'd give it one more year before finally deciding to make a move.

[Austincys21]

Only way I keep him is cause he's talented but let's be real he's immature and a head case. He won't ever win anything unless he decides to grow tf up

[sdballer]

No one even asked karl about trading cousins. He was talking about the fact that he thought there was room to develop and grow with the pieces they had but that you also had to be open to moves like trades.

Does it mean the kings aren't stupid enough to do it? No, but the silliness from other fans who think they have to trade a dollar for three quarters is pathetic.

[Death and Taxes]

I like the scenario Bill Simmons talked about with Vooch plus top pick for Cousins.

Vooch is on a good contract and still young. If Orlando can land Thibs they have the type of roster that Thibs will love.

Vuc is hardly even a positive impact player with how bad his defense is (and defense at the center position is incredibly important) and Orlando's pick will probably be 5th, which isn't good enough in my opinion, especially since Sacramento doesn't have the best track record with draft picks.

I'm a Celtics Fan. I'd trade the farm for Cousins and hope that we do, but Vuc is close to a 20/10 big with great 3 point shooting for the position and a clean injury history. Vuc would be a good fit in Karl's open, movement based system and the Kings have Vlade Divac as a prominent member of the front office who could provide further support and guidance, plus he played his college ball in California.

Finally you even have the Shaq angle who -as another influential member of the front office- has recently admitted regret toward leaving the Orlando franchise so early, stating he would have liked to have delivered the city a championship. In his eyes, would there be a better pay back to Orlando than delivering the most arguably the most physically imposing center of today's game to their doorstep? The fit as a trade partner is real.

Throw in the 5th pick and Orlando might have the best offer out there. You can say their track record is spotty but they also did take Cousins at 5 and are now looking at a King's Ransom for him.(Didn't realize the pun until I typed it... refuse to delete it)

Personally think there are 4 potential franchise players in this draft in Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, and and Deangelo Russell. At 5 you have a decent chance of one of the top 4 teams over thinking the draft and passing on one of them. Even if they don't you could take a potential rotation corner stone in Justise Winslow or if your so worried about post defense, Kristaps Porzingis would be a pretty great fit to cover Vuc's deficiencies with his length and mobility and possesses the kind of upside to warrant a high first round draft pick.

If taking the sketchy Euro big so high is a daunting prospect and you really just want the proven commodity to pair next to Vuc, Willey Caulie Stein is right there to come in and block shots and either way you have your own pick a few selections later to cover up any areas where you still might be weak by picking up Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, Myles Turner, or maybe even NCAA player of the year Big Frank Kaminski.

All of this being said Kings I think the Kings should take Tyler Zeller, Kelly Olynk or Jared Sullinger, *insert player here*(I've heard that Karl likes Evan Turner), 2015 Celtics First, 2016 Brooklyn 1st, any of our seconds or late firsts that it would take to get the deal done. Boston then signs the recently opted out Kevin Love and contend for years. There can be miracles when you believe.

[Stoosh]

What does it say about the Kings organization that they have been unable to build a playoff team with DeMarcus Cousins AND Rudy Gay? Even Utah look like better competitors in the West...

[SacKingZZZ]

Unless Cousins demands a trade, which his past comments on similar subjects would suggest that being unlikely, and Vlade Divac really is in charge I wouldn't hold my breath about landing Cuz anytime soon. Vlade just did an interview before one of the games and I can't see them interested in moving the guy they want to build their entire offense around.

[sdballer]

I like the scenario Bill Simmons talked about with Vooch plus top pick for Cousins.

Vooch is on a good contract and still young. If Orlando can land Thibs they have the type of roster that Thibs will love.

Vuc is hardly even a positive impact player with how bad his defense is (and defense at the center position is incredibly important) and Orlando's pick will probably be 5th, which isn't good enough in my opinion, especially since Sacramento doesn't have the best track record with draft picks.

I'm a Celtics Fan. I'd trade the farm for Cousins and hope that we do, but Vuc is close to a 20/10 big with great 3 point shooting for the position and a clean injury history. Vuc would be a good fit in Karl's open, movement based system and the Kings have Vlade Divac as a prominent member of the front office who could provide further support and guidance, plus he played his college ball in California.

Finally you even have the Shaq angle who -as another influential member of the front office- has recently admitted regret toward leaving the Orlando franchise so early, stating he would have liked to have delivered the city a championship. In his eyes, would there be a better pay back to Orlando than delivering the most arguably the most physically imposing center of today's game to their doorstep? The fit as a trade partner is real.

Throw in the 5th pick and Orlando might have the best offer out there. You can say their track record is spotty but they also did take Cousins at 5 and are now looking at a King's Ransom for him.(Didn't realize the pun until I typed it... refuse to delete it)

Personally think there are 4 potential franchise players in this draft in Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, and and Deangelo Russell. At 5 you have a decent chance of one of the top 4 teams over thinking the draft and passing on one of them. Even if they don't you could take a potential rotation corner stone in Justise Winslow or if your so worried about post defense, Kristaps Porzingis would be a pretty great fit to cover Vuc's deficiencies with his length and mobility and possesses the kind of upside to warrant a high first round draft pick.

If taking the sketchy Euro big so high is a daunting prospect and you really just want the proven commodity to pair next to Vuc, Willey Caulie Stein is right there to come in and block shots and either way you have your own pick a few selections later to cover up any areas where you still might be weak by picking up Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, Myles Turner, or maybe even NCAA player of the year Big Frank Kaminski.

All of this being said Kings I think the Kings should take Tyler Zeller, Kelly Olynk or Jared Sullinger, *insert player here*(I've heard that Karl likes Evan Turner), 2015 Celtics First, 2016 Brooklyn 1st, any of our seconds or late firsts that it would take to get the deal done. Boston then signs the recently opted out Kevin Love and contend for years. There can be miracles when you believe.

3 things:
Vucevic has hit 5 total 3s in his career

That boston package sucks

Can other teams fans stop making crappy cousins proposals?

[sdballer]

What does it say about the Kings organization that they have been unable to build a playoff team with DeMarcus Cousins AND Rudy Gay? Even Utah look like better competitors in the West...

That they haven't even played a full season together under the same coach and with any consistent teammates.

[SacKingZZZ]

What does it say about the Kings organization that they have been unable to build a playoff team with DeMarcus Cousins AND Rudy Gay? Even Utah look like better competitors in the West...

The good part is they have one more shot at it. They got rid of the head of the snake (Chris Mullin), and they cut the balls off of the other (D'Alesandro). This is a different front office right now so lets see what they can do first.

[KF10]

What does it say about the Kings organization that they have been unable to build a playoff team with DeMarcus Cousins AND Rudy Gay? Even Utah look like better competitors in the West...

They were stupid enough to fire a coach (Mike Malone) who had them playing tough, defense and grind it out baskeball. FO/management were like "nah, we don't want that. we want uptempo! 3PTers!" LOL They truly thought that Ty Corbin was the next step to success. This is the same organization that wanted Josh Smith (!) but Malone was like "fk that ish"

[reignfire]

Vuc is hardly even a positive impact player with how bad his defense is (and defense at the center position is incredibly important) and Orlando's pick will probably be 5th, which isn't good enough in my opinion, especially since Sacramento doesn't have the best track record with draft picks.

I'm a Celtics Fan. I'd trade the farm for Cousins and hope that we do, but Vuc is close to a 20/10 big with great 3 point shooting for the position and a clean injury history. Vuc would be a good fit in Karl's open, movement based system and the Kings have Vlade Divac as a prominent member of the front office who could provide further support and guidance, plus he played his college ball in California.

Finally you even have the Shaq angle who -as another influential member of the front office- has recently admitted regret toward leaving the Orlando franchise so early, stating he would have liked to have delivered the city a championship. In his eyes, would there be a better pay back to Orlando than delivering the most arguably the most physically imposing center of today's game to their doorstep? The fit as a trade partner is real.

Throw in the 5th pick and Orlando might have the best offer out there. You can say their track record is spotty but they also did take Cousins at 5 and are now looking at a King's Ransom for him.(Didn't realize the pun until I typed it... refuse to delete it)

Personally think there are 4 potential franchise players in this draft in Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, and and Deangelo Russell. At 5 you have a decent chance of one of the top 4 teams over thinking the draft and passing on one of them. Even if they don't you could take a potential rotation corner stone in Justise Winslow or if your so worried about post defense, Kristaps Porzingis would be a pretty great fit to cover Vuc's deficiencies with his length and mobility and possesses the kind of upside to warrant a high first round draft pick.

If taking the sketchy Euro big so high is a daunting prospect and you really just want the proven commodity to pair next to Vuc, Willey Caulie Stein is right there to come in and block shots and either way you have your own pick a few selections later to cover up any areas where you still might be weak by picking up Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, Myles Turner, or maybe even NCAA player of the year Big Frank Kaminski.

All of this being said Kings I think the Kings should take Tyler Zeller, Kelly Olynk or Jared Sullinger, *insert player here*(I've heard that Karl likes Evan Turner), 2015 Celtics First, 2016 Brooklyn 1st, any of our seconds or late firsts that it would take to get the deal done. Boston then signs the recently opted out Kevin Love and contend for years. There can be miracles when you believe.

3 things:
Vucevic has hit 5 total 3s in his career

That boston package sucks

Can other teams fans stop making crappy cousins proposals?

If you don't think a 20/10 big man is valuable you are insane. They are extremely rare. He's young, no injury, great contract.

[Stoosh]

What does it say about the Kings organization that they have been unable to build a playoff team with DeMarcus Cousins AND Rudy Gay? Even Utah look like better competitors in the West...

That they haven't even played a full season together under the same coach and with any consistent teammates.

And whose fault is that? Nobody can blame the players for under-performing under that situation...

3 coaches in one season.

[benjamins]

Cousins seems willing to stay...I think the Kings will work something out, strangely. I mean it's statistically improbable to keep screwing up at this rate, right?

[Stoosh]

What does it say about the Kings organization that they have been unable to build a playoff team with DeMarcus Cousins AND Rudy Gay? Even Utah look like better competitors in the West...

The good part is they have one more shot at it. They got rid of the head of the snake (Chris Mullin), and they cut the balls off of the other (D'Alesandro). This is a different front office right now so lets see what they can do first.

Hopefully it works...fortunately for them DeMarcus hasn't shown the typical disgruntled star player persona while they figure things out.

[KF10]

Cousins seems willing to stay...I think the Kings will work something out, strangely. I mean it's statistically improbable to keep screwing up at this rate, right?

Cousins isn't going anywhere.

The only way Cousins is heading out it's when the front office/management officially lost their damn minds and are purposely sabotaging the franchise.

They've shown that they are delusional and somewhat incompetent but they are not stupid. Losing Cousins means = bye bye $$$$$

...and that would only be the tip of the iceberg.

[Death and Taxes]

Vuc is hardly even a positive impact player with how bad his defense is (and defense at the center position is incredibly important) and Orlando's pick will probably be 5th, which isn't good enough in my opinion, especially since Sacramento doesn't have the best track record with draft picks.

I'm a Celtics Fan. I'd trade the farm for Cousins and hope that we do, but Vuc is close to a 20/10 big with great 3 point shooting for the position and a clean injury history. Vuc would be a good fit in Karl's open, movement based system and the Kings have Vlade Divac as a prominent member of the front office who could provide further support and guidance, plus he played his college ball in California.

Finally you even have the Shaq angle who -as another influential member of the front office- has recently admitted regret toward leaving the Orlando franchise so early, stating he would have liked to have delivered the city a championship. In his eyes, would there be a better pay back to Orlando than delivering the most arguably the most physically imposing center of today's game to their doorstep? The fit as a trade partner is real.

Throw in the 5th pick and Orlando might have the best offer out there. You can say their track record is spotty but they also did take Cousins at 5 and are now looking at a King's Ransom for him.(Didn't realize the pun until I typed it... refuse to delete it)

Personally think there are 4 potential franchise players in this draft in Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, and and Deangelo Russell. At 5 you have a decent chance of one of the top 4 teams over thinking the draft and passing on one of them. Even if they don't you could take a potential rotation corner stone in Justise Winslow or if your so worried about post defense, Kristaps Porzingis would be a pretty great fit to cover Vuc's deficiencies with his length and mobility and possesses the kind of upside to warrant a high first round draft pick.

If taking the sketchy Euro big so high is a daunting prospect and you really just want the proven commodity to pair next to Vuc, Willey Caulie Stein is right there to come in and block shots and either way you have your own pick a few selections later to cover up any areas where you still might be weak by picking up Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, Myles Turner, or maybe even NCAA player of the year Big Frank Kaminski.

All of this being said Kings I think the Kings should take Tyler Zeller, Kelly Olynk or Jared Sullinger, *insert player here*(I've heard that Karl likes Evan Turner), 2015 Celtics First, 2016 Brooklyn 1st, any of our seconds or late firsts that it would take to get the deal done. Boston then signs the recently opted out Kevin Love and contend for years. There can be miracles when you believe.

3 things:
Vucevic has hit 5 total 3s in his career

That boston package sucks

Can other teams fans stop making crappy cousins proposals?

Wow I'm shocked by that, FWIW he made 23 his last year at USC on 35%. Excuse the ignorance, I'm primarily a draft guy.

Cant speak for other teams but I know I'm going to hype my team's package till the cows come home. It's not always the best deal that goes through, if Cousins want to go to Boston and the Kings think the offer is fair, that's where he'll go. If Boston's offer is a B and the best Sac can find is a B+ they would rather send Cousins off to Greener pastures than risk him ending up in a crappy situation and the rest of your team's valuable players are constantly looking over their shoulders.

[crazy_me_87]

Cousins seems willing to stay...I think the Kings will work something out, strangely. I mean it's statistically improbable to keep screwing up at this rate, right?

Cousins isn't going anywhere.

The only way Cousins is heading out it's when the front office/management officially lost their damn minds and are purposely sabotaging the franchise.

They've shown that they are delusional and somewhat incompetent but they are not stupid. Losing Cousins means = bye bye $$$$$

...and that would only be the tip of the iceberg.

Well it will depend on how damaged Cousins relationship with the new FO really is.
If he disconected with the Organisation then he needs to go.

Thats all speculation of course. But this is the only way i see him beeing traded.

Well not stupid? i dont know. I still cant get my head around why you would fire a Coach that had your Team in the playoff race,playing hard,defense and who the players(especailly your Franchise player) loved to death.

And for what? for "show" for "uptempo" I am sorry but thats not a winning basketball decision.

[Foye]

2015 1st/Dieng/Muhammed/Unprotected 1st 2016/LaVine for Cousins/Landry

Rubio/Wiggins/Cousins core

No, the Wolves certainly won't sell the bank for a C almost leading the league in turnovers per game and refusing to defend when not pleased with other teammates effort.

Let him go to the Knicks or whatever. Wolves probably wouldn't even offer their 2015 1st for him.

[Froob]

I love how every Fanbase thinks their offer is the best one.

But, we all know ultimately he'll be traded to the Lakers for a used washing machine for some reason.

[aal04]

So I hear spurs are after a Duncan successor...