76ers will become dynasty in 10 years

[psualltheway5]

8 years ago the Blazers were the future dynasty team. And they even had players good enough to somewhat justify such a thought. Phillys current roster doesn't have 5% of the potential that squad had let alone the Thunder a few years ago.

Just stop. The Blazers had a great core decimated by injuries.

Saying the Sixers don't have 5% of the potential of OKC is also foolish. You are obviously angry at the Sixers for whatever reason, but don't make blanket statements that are senseless.

[Q C]

8 years ago the Blazers were the future dynasty team. And they even had players good enough to somewhat justify such a thought. Phillys current roster doesn't have 5% of the potential that squad had let alone the Thunder a few years ago.

Just stop. The Blazers had a great core decimated by injuries.

Saying the Sixers don't have 5% of the potential of OKC is also foolish. You are obviously angry at the Sixers for whatever reason, but don't make blanket statements that are senseless.

I would go as far as to say Phillys entire roster doesn't have 5% of Durants talent let alone Durant/WB/Harden/Ibaka potential core

[nikster]

8 years ago the Blazers were the future dynasty team. And they even had players good enough to somewhat justify such a thought. Phillys current roster doesn't have 5% of the potential that squad had let alone the Thunder a few years ago.

Just stop. The Blazers had a great core decimated by injuries.

Saying the Sixers don't have 5% of the potential of OKC is also foolish. You are obviously angry at the Sixers for whatever reason, but don't make blanket statements that are senseless.

I would go as far as to say Phillys entire roster doesn't have 5% of Durants talent let alone Durant/WB/Harden/Ibaka potential core

thats just ridiculous. whatever tho,haters gone hate

[Blkbrd671]

We haven't won a chip in like what 30+ years? Haven't been relevant for damn near 15. I think a championship would make all of this worth it...and its not like we were coming off of greatness pre-hinkie anyway...the highligh of that era was being a dead Bulls team..barely. and dying slow against a dying Bostons squad...WHICH might I add was BLOWN UP prior to Hinkie coming here. I also would like to add that we weren't even the worst team in the league either of these last two years. So at the end of the day this isn't even that big of a step back as people are acting....if it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Nothing new except Post Hinkie would actually have assets to deal and cap space to use instead of the dead carcass Hinkie had.

I probably underestimated how badly Sixers fans want a title. I guess when you look at it, its been 30 years , whats another 10, i can see how Philly fans can be okay with that, however again, if it takes Philly 10 yeasr to win 1 title, but SVG (for instance) does it in 5 years, then i feel at that point Philly's experiment is a failure. If in 10 years Philly creates a dynasty , then i'd be more inclined to say Hinkie move was smart.

furthermore if the NBA changes the rules of tanking, which is very possible in the next couple years, and philly is unable acquire the pieces needed to create that dynasty as they intend, then these past couple years of suck would be for nothing. My point is that Philly is risking a lot on a experiment so lengthy, and its reasonable to say its dumb considering the 1,000's of factors involved.

[floppymoose]

I don't know what the Sixers future holds, but I've been sold on Noel since he was in high school. His emergence surprises me not at all.

[Q C]

Just stop. The Blazers had a great core decimated by injuries.

Saying the Sixers don't have 5% of the potential of OKC is also foolish. You are obviously angry at the Sixers for whatever reason, but don't make blanket statements that are senseless.

I would go as far as to say Phillys entire roster doesn't have 5% of Durants talent let alone Durant/WB/Harden/Ibaka potential core

thats just ridiculous. whatever tho,haters gone hate

feel free to point out the transcendent future hall of fame talent. If you had the choice to take Phillys current roster or Kevin Durant on your squad for the next 10 years and you even had to think about it, I feel bad for you.

[Mik317]

8 years ago the Blazers were the future dynasty team. And they even had players good enough to somewhat justify such a thought. Phillys current roster doesn't have 5% of the potential that squad had let alone the Thunder a few years ago.

Just stop. The Blazers had a great core decimated by injuries.

Saying the Sixers don't have 5% of the potential of OKC is also foolish. You are obviously angry at the Sixers for whatever reason, but don't make blanket statements that are senseless.

I would go as far as to say Phillys entire roster doesn't have 5% of Durants talent let alone Durant/WB/Harden/Ibaka potential core

You don't know this tho. For one, we don't even know who we will take at 3. We don't even know how good Embiid is/can be. We don't even know if we could somehow luck into drafting our "Durant" talent next year. I agree that the article in the OP is silly for calling dynasty right now but It is weird that the naysayers don't give any benefit of the doubt.

the worst part of these threads is that it seems like people want Sixers fans to only focus on the downside. All we hear is "what if it doesn't work?" Or "you act like it can't fail"...I think we all know it can go bad in an instant....but why spend time worrying about the bad when you can be i don't know? hopeful? Like I said earlier..we will have a clearer idea of what our "core" truly is by the mid-to end point of next year...by then we can begin to see what type of players we have and go from there.

I hate the OKC comps too but you go back to Durant's rookie year and you wouldn't think they'd be this good either..,.we had jokers on this very board calling Durant a bust, a chucker, and a scrub and ****. Mostly trolls but some dudes were legit serious.

It is silly to place a dynasty tag on dudes who haven't played yet..yes...but it is equally silly to place a ceiling on them as well. Its not a one way street. If we have to constantly be reminded that it can fail...then I'd atleast like some people to acknowledge the potential upside of it as well... That's what we are pursuing. If we don't reach it, that will suck...doesn't mean you don't try. Especially considering where the franchise was 3 years ago. That is the key, we haven't taken a step back really. I don't even like all the moves Hinkie made but I wouldn't switch places with the Sixers of 3 years ago.

[Ponchos]

10 years is a long time. In 10 years 85% of the current Philly roster won't be in the league.

[Mik317]

We haven't won a chip in like what 30+ years? Haven't been relevant for damn near 15. I think a championship would make all of this worth it...and its not like we were coming off of greatness pre-hinkie anyway...the highligh of that era was being a dead Bulls team..barely. and dying slow against a dying Bostons squad...WHICH might I add was BLOWN UP prior to Hinkie coming here. I also would like to add that we weren't even the worst team in the league either of these last two years. So at the end of the day this isn't even that big of a step back as people are acting....if it doesn't work. It doesn't work. Nothing new except Post Hinkie would actually have assets to deal and cap space to use instead of the dead carcass Hinkie had.

I probably underestimated how badly Sixers fans want a title. I guess when you look at it, its been 30 years , whats another 10, i can see how Philly fans can be okay with that, however again, if it takes Philly 10 yeasr to win 1 title, but SVG (for instance) does it in 5 years, then i feel at that point Philly's experiment is a failure. If in 10 years Philly creates a dynasty , then i'd be more inclined to say Hinkie move was smart.

furthermore if the NBA changes the rules of tanking, which is very possible in the next couple years, and philly is unable acquire the pieces needed to create that dynasty as they intend, then these past couple years of suck would be for nothing. My point is that Philly is risking a lot on a experiment so lengthy, and its reasonable to say its dumb considering the 1,000's of factors involved.

You are selling short how hard it is to win a chip, plus if we ever win one with this group chances are we were pretty good those other years before breaking through. You don't just go from awful to winning a chip in a years span. So if we have about 6 years of playoffs and stuff and 1 year of championship..I'd take that in a heart beat and all of it would have been worth it. 2 bad years for 6 good years plus 1 amazing year? Sign me up today.

That is what I think a lot of people are missing. We just want a team with the CHANCE to win. Haven't had that since Iverson. Winning a chip is the obvious end goal but just being in the conversation is a hell of a lot better than what the Iggy era was (i.e hoping to perhaps scare a team, and a win a few games but never any championship aspirations). Just going into a season with legit title hopes would feel great.

So no, that would not be a failure. (that only happens when after the championship, Hinkie is unable to keep us there lol)

[DowJones]

The problem is that we haven't seen anything from the players they have drafted. "Red shirting" these guys the last 2 years is good for tanking but that also takes 1 full year off their rookie deals. That part hurts. The next thing you know, these guys will be due big extensions.

The bottom line is that we just don't know. They have more of a chance to become Minnesota than a dynasty.

[Blkbrd671]

1. Has any team ever had an approach similar to the Sixers? You can't claim it has never been done if it has never been attempted.

WTF!? absolutely pointless post in which your agreeing with me in a argumentative fashion

2. Once again, this is just an asinine, baseless opinion.

because i disagree with your opinion doesn't make it asinine or baseless. normally attacking a poster directly is done when you have nothing else to say. We'd rather you just do that.

3. "This much suck"? I would rather two years of being awful with upside, instead of 10 years of meddling, treadmill, mediocrity that they were producing.

i always crack up when this argument is brought up. So because Philly has had sh* GM or owner for the longest time, means that "the system doesn't work". Yes it takes a while for teams to figure sh* out, but doesn't mean you blow everything up and out of the water because your ownership failed to hire teh right ppl for periods of time.

Judging by your response , your indicating that Philly isn't tanking this year?

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

Not sure if you are serious, but I'll bite.

They didn't draft Beasley first off.

Rubio, Williams, Flynn, and Wesley Johnson are NOWHERE close to the prospects that Embiid, Russell, and Noel are.

According to whom?

When I look at NBADraft.net, Williams was a 99, Rubio a 97, Wesley Johnson a 97, Flynn a 94.

Embiid a 100, Russell a 98, Noel a 95.

So NBADraft.net believed they were roughly equal prospects.

Can you link me to an article that supports your statement?

[Q C]

sure it COULD work? anything COULD happen. but like I said, there have been plenty of teams in recent memory that had much better young talent than Philly currently has and haven't even seen titles, let alone become dynasties. even if by some miracle Philly acquired talent similar to what OKC had in Durant/WB/Harden (which they are not even remotely close to doing so ) how do they exactly expect to hold on those guys long enough for them to get the experience necessary to win a single title let alone "become a dynasty" its a joke. teams can't pay that kind of money. The rare exception is a team like the Warriors who have a small window because of Stephen Currys sweetheart paper mache ankle contract

[psualltheway5]

Not sure if you are serious, but I'll bite.

They didn't draft Beasley first off.

Rubio, Williams, Flynn, and Wesley Johnson are NOWHERE close to the prospects that Embiid, Russell, and Noel are.

According to whom?

When I look at NBADraft.net, Williams was a 99, Rubio a 97, Wesley Johnson a 97, Flynn a 94.

Embiid a 100, Russell a 98, Noel a 95.

So NBADraft.net believed they were roughly equal prospects.

Can you link me to an article that supports your statement?

Oh God.

According to just about every draft analyst with a brain.

[DowJones]

I think Chris Sheridan has been reading my posts

Dynasties often include the best player on the planet. Are the Sixers anywhere close to having a top 5 player on the planet or even the best player? No, they aren't.

That's part of why Philly isn't currently a dynasty.

But projecting forward, I definitely consider Embiid to be a potential 'best player in the world' candidate over the next decade. He's the best center talent to enter the league since Oden, and before that guys like Shaq/Mourning/Yao/Duncan; before that, you're going all the way back to guys like Hakeem/Robinson. He's an extremely rare caliber of prospect, and imo has a legit shot at becoming the single most dominant force in the league.

Throw away the issue with Embiid's attitude. The guy fractured his back and foot in college. That is a terrible combination and it is the reason you got him with the 3rd pick in the draft. And the kid is really raw. Towns and Okafor both produced at a higher level than Embiid's did in their lone year in college. It isn't fair at all to compare Embiid with Shaquille, Duncan, Zo, etc.

[nikster]

I would go as far as to say Phillys entire roster doesn't have 5% of Durants talent let alone Durant/WB/Harden/Ibaka potential core

thats just ridiculous. whatever tho,haters gone hate

feel free to point out the transcendent future hall of fame talent. If you had the choice to take Phillys current roster or Kevin Durant on your squad for the next 10 years and you even had to think about it, I feel bad for you.

except thats not even close to what i was saying. ill give you an A for outrage

[Ponchos]

sure it COULD work? anything COULD happen. but like I said, there have been plenty of teams in recent memory that had much better young talent than Philly currently has and haven't even seen titles, let alone become dynasties. even if by some miracle Philly acquired talent similar to what OKC had in Durant/WB/Harden (which they are not even remotely close to doing so ) how do they exactly expect to hold on those guys long enough for them to get the experience necessary to win a single title let alone "become a dynasty" its a joke. teams can't pay that kind of money. The rare exception is a team like the Warriors who have a small window because of Stephen Currys sweetheart paper mache ankle contract

They absolutely can pay several max deals. Max deals after the rookie contract are much lower than max deals for guys who have been in the league 9-10 years.

They can lock up their core for close to a decade no sweat (if they want to). Hell, OKC could've had Harden and Ibaka but didn't want to go 1 cent into tax territory. OKC easily could've maintained their core while spending far far less than major spenders like Cleav and Brooklyn.

[DowJones]

Not sure if you are serious, but I'll bite.

They didn't draft Beasley first off.

Rubio, Williams, Flynn, and Wesley Johnson are NOWHERE close to the prospects that Embiid, Russell, and Noel are.

According to whom?

When I look at NBADraft.net, Williams was a 99, Rubio a 97, Wesley Johnson a 97, Flynn a 94.

Embiid a 100, Russell a 98, Noel a 95.

So NBADraft.net believed they were roughly equal prospects.

Can you link me to an article that supports your statement?

Oh God.

According to just about every draft analyst with a brain.

I would agree with you on Embiid if not for his injury history. Broken feet at age 18 is scary. Combine that with a fractured back...yikes. No way on Noel. He had tons of flaws coming out of college and fell to 6th in an absolutely terrible draft. I have no idea on Russell. Ohio State players in general scare me.

[Blkbrd671]

The problem is that we haven't seen anything from the players they have drafted. "Red shirting" these guys the last 2 years is good for tanking but that also takes 1 full year off their rookie deals. That part hurts. The next thing you know, these guys will be due big extensions.

The bottom line is that we just don't know. They have more of a chance to become Minnesota than a dynasty.

Ya at what pont do they stop red shirting and start winning. Also how long is going to take them to learn how to win?

[psualltheway5]

1. Has any team ever had an approach similar to the Sixers? You can't claim it has never been done if it has never been attempted.

WTF!? absolutely pointless post in which your agreeing with me in a argumentative fashion

2. Once again, this is just an asinine, baseless opinion.

because i disagree with your opinion doesn't make it asinine or baseless. normally attacking a poster directly is done when you have nothing else to say. We'd rather you just do that.

3. "This much suck"? I would rather two years of being awful with upside, instead of 10 years of meddling, treadmill, mediocrity that they were producing.

i always crack up when this argument is brought up. So because Philly has had sh* GM or owner for the longest time, means that "the system doesn't work". Yes it takes a while for teams to figure sh* out, but doesn't mean you blow everything up and out of the water because your ownership failed to hire teh right ppl for periods of time.

Judging by your response , your indicating that Philly isn't tanking this year?

1. You said it has never worked. I said you cannot make a statment like that because it was never attempted. Those are not the same arguments. So, how can you judge a model that has "never worked" in your opinion, when nobody has tried it before? That's like saying electricity is a terrible idea for lighting, before Franklin even discovered it.

2. There is such thing as an opinion. Then, there is what you said. You claim they won't win much in 10 years, some small market team will win, and you had no evidence to support this. This isn't even a clear thought, nonetheless an informed opinion.

3. Look at the Sixers past drafts. They have gotten some very good value in their late teens picks. Most of the players they drafted in the middle of the 1st round were solid players. Once again, a team with solid players only cannot win. So, yeah, the "system" didn't really work.