Ty Lawson Generating Interest From The Lakers, Rockets, Pistons & Kings

MelosSoreWrist · Post #61 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:26 pm

The Penguin wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:
The Penguin wrote:Jennings straight up for Lawson works under the trade rules. Nuggets can rehab Jennings' value and flip him at the deadline.

Lawsons value, despite the duis, is greater than Jennings, who might not be on the court for a while, now. Doesnt make sense for the Nuggets to get a player who you hope will play good enough by the trade deadline to create value for a player who already has that value.

Except it's not. If Lawson had the value you think he does, he wouldn't be on the Nuggets anymore. There's a reason why news stories about potentially releasing him are coming out.

If Lawson didnt have any value, he wouldnt be on the Nuggets either. We'll see how this plays out. I think the potential release reports were a cleansing reaction by the organization.

I also think if Jennings had value, Detroit wouldve traded him and wouldve been part of the team makeover. Speculation on my part.

Todd3 · Post #62 » by **Todd3** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:30 pm

MelosSoreWrist wrote:
The Penguin wrote:Jennings straight up for Lawson works under the trade rules. Nuggets can rehab Jennings' value and flip him at the deadline.

Lawsons value, despite the duis, is greater than Jennings, who might not be on the court for a while, now. Doesnt make sense for the Nuggets to get a player who you hope will play good enough by the trade deadline to create value for a player who already has that value.

i get what you mean but i think both their value isnt much right now, and while Jennings as a player may not be worth much, his exp contract still has value to teams like DEN looking to dump salary of a problem player.

MGB8 · Post #63 » by **MGB8** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:04 pm

Detroit makes sense if they can move Jennings in return, but I don't see that being what Denver is looking for.

Lakers don't really make sense because he'll probably stunt the development of their young guards, and I don't know that he'll mesh well with Kobe.

Brooklyn needs a PG but doesn't have much of anything to offer, unless Joe Johnson's contract is appealing and Denver has some salaries that it wants to dump.

Milwaukee could use an upgrade at starting PG, but I don't know that Lawson fits what they want to do. He might, though, and maybe Lawson for MCW and OJ Mayo (expiring) works on trade checker. But is that really worthwhile for Denver?

Utah makes the most sense of teams that might be willing to give up something for Lawson - they really need a starting level PG. Burke and Burks combined would work, but I have a feeling Utah wants to keep Burks - although maybe Exum - if they believe in him - and Hood allow them to take the loss.

Han Solo · Post #64 » by **Han Solo** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:06 pm

MGB8 wrote:Detroit makes sense if they can move Jennings in return, but I don't see that being what Denver is looking for.

Lakers don't really make sense because he'll probably stunt the development of their young guards, and I don't know that he'll mesh well with Kobe.

Brooklyn needs a PG but doesn't have much of anything to offer, unless Joe Johnson's contract is appealing and Denver has some salaries that it wants to dump.

Milwaukee could use an upgrade at starting PG, but I don't know that Lawson fits what they want to do. He might, though, and maybe Lawson for MCW and OJ Mayo (expiring) works on trade checker. But is that really worthwhile for Denver?

Utah makes the most sense of teams that might be willing to give up something for Lawson - they really need a starting level PG. Burke and Burks combined would work, but I have a feeling Utah wants to keep Burks - although maybe Exum - if they believe in him - and Hood allow them to take the loss.

Detroit has Meeks too. I know the name isn't that sexy, but he's better than any 2 guard they have right now (at this time). Jennings and Meeks if we were trying would be my bet.

Han Solo · Post #65 » by **Han Solo** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:08 pm

For the record too.. Jennings went from being hated to a fan favorite. He's always going to be a little wild, but he's turned the corner in my opinion.

MrBaynes · Post #66 » by **MrBaynes** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:13 pm

Lawson is toxic right now, heck he hasn't even had his court date and sentencing for his DUI (3rd if you believe the rumors that he had one in Missouri as he told officers in January). As much as Denver may want him away from the team, and away from Mudiay you gotta think that it would be better for him and the organization to wait it out until mid-season and increase his stock even a little bit. I honestly don't know what you get for him now besides expiring contracts, maybe a half a season of rehabbing his image can at least get you a young talent or a mid-late first as well.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #67 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:09 pm

Glad to see his value is at least something.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #68 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:19 pm

perezident wrote:The Kings have never and won't express interest in Lawson...writer seemingly drawing conclusions to his old playing days with Karl. Article is false on Kings behalf

Thanks Vivek.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #69 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:24 pm

inquisitive wrote:either he gets waived or a mutual buyout occurs.

Waiving seems like a bad idea. Nuggets still owe Lawson the full amount and we gain no cap space.

Nuggets_Talk · Post #70 » by **Nuggets_Talk** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:26 pm

The Penguin wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:
The Penguin wrote:Jennings straight up for Lawson works under the trade rules. Nuggets can rehab Jennings' value and flip him at the deadline.

Lawsons value, despite the duis, is greater than Jennings, who might not be on the court for a while, now. Doesnt make sense for the Nuggets to get a player who you hope will play good enough by the trade deadline to create value for a player who already has that value.

Except it's not. If Lawson had the value you think he does, he wouldn't be on the Nuggets anymore. There's a reason why news stories about potentially releasing him are coming out.

Not moving him so far doesn't mean his value is less than Jennings. Flawed logic.

KingFox · Post #71 » by **KingFox** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:00 pm

people are just throwing the Kings around because of past rumors. lazy ass reporting

Kupchak9 · Post #72 » by **Kupchak9** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:08 pm

None of these teams have a lottery pick to offer so I doubt the Nuggets would be interested in doing business with them.

RIPskaterdude · Post #73 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:33 pm

Kupchak9 wrote:None of these teams have a lottery pick to offer so I doubt the Nuggets would be interested in doing business with them.

there's no way in hell they are getting a lottery pick for him anyways

Austincys21 · Post #74 » by **Austincys21** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:35 pm

I'd love for the Lakers to be interested as a 3rd team and Nick Young be including. Maybe...

Lakers get Trevor Ariza
Rockets get Ty Lawson
Nuggets get Nick Young, Ryan Kelly, and Nick Johnson

I'm not sure the market for Lawson is but I'd hope for a steal like this if possible

Kupchak9 · Post #75 » by **Kupchak9** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:37 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:
Kupchak9 wrote:None of these teams have a lottery pick to offer so I doubt the Nuggets would be interested in doing business with them.
there's no way in hell they are getting a lottery pick for him anyways

Was a joke

.

Austincys21 · Post #76 » by **Austincys21** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:37 pm

As for another DUI... Really? Has he not heard of Uber, he's a millionaire... This dude is 1. Stupid 2. A cheapskate 3. An alcoholic

TKainZero · Post #77 » by **TKainZero** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:44 pm

When you hear about player like igudola and Harrison Barnes never drinking a drop of alcohol in their lives...

It sounds weird

Then stories like this... And it sounds great!

TKainZero · Post #78 » by **TKainZero** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:45 pm

Austincys21 wrote:I'd love for the Lakers to be interested as a 3rd team and Nick Young be including. Maybe...

Lakers get Trevor Ariza
Rockets get Ty Lawson
Nuggets get Nick Young, Ryan Kelly, and Nick Johnson

I'm not sure the market for Lawson is but I'd hope for a steal like this if possible

Why would the rockets trade ariza?

Ariza is good?

Post #79 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:47 pm

Nuggets_Talk wrote:
inquisitive wrote:either he gets waived or a mutual buyout occurs.

Waiving seems like a bad idea. Nuggets still owe Lawson the full amount and we gain no cap space.

So long as you have the Rockets bidding against other teams you should be able to get expiring contracts and a young big at a minimum. Either Capela, Jones or Montejunias.

Austincys21 · Post #80 » by **Austincys21** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:02 pm

TKainZero wrote:
Austincys21 wrote:I'd love for the Lakers to be interested as a 3rd team and Nick Young be including. Maybe...

Lakers get Trevor Ariza
Rockets get Ty Lawson
Nuggets get Nick Young, Ryan Kelly, and Nick Johnson

I'm not sure the market for Lawson is but I'd hope for a steal like this if possible

Why would the rockets trade ariza?

Ariza is good?

How else can the Rockets acquire him ? The Rockets just signed Brewer to a similar contract and can't be traded so that leaves

Papa, Prig, and Capela ? Maybe
I don't see Jones or Montejunas

Nuggets have Chandler and Gallo so adding Ariza and his 3 years 8m may be not of interest