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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#61 » by khufure » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:01 pm

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jayu70 wrote:Crazy Indeed.
Bucks at 2?
Bucks will miss the veteran leaders of Zaza, Illyasova and Dudley. Not flashy guys but understood and played their roles and did the dirty work. They may score more points but I think their defense will suffer.


How many times do we have to tell you all.

No they won't.

Bucks ceiling is 2 and their floor is 6.

Have to see if Giannis keeps being a bonehead, and what Parker looks like post-ACL. Besides upside, I thought the Bucks strength was their defense. The weakness was inexperience and offense. Maybe "low basketball IQ" could be added, we'll have to see how it all fits together. I wonder if Kidd can make MCW be a positive point guard on offense, especially with Monroe, Parker, Giannis to throw the ball to.....
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#62 » by jayu70 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:02 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Crazy Indeed.
Bucks at 2?
Bucks will miss the veteran leaders of Zaza, Illyasova and Dudley. Not flashy guys but understood and played their roles and did the dirty work. They may score more points but I think their defense will suffer.


How many times do we have to tell you all.

No they won't.

Bucks ceiling is 2 and their floor is 6.

You told us so it's true, lol. Ok buddy.
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#63 » by Jadoogar » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:02 pm

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NBA4u wrote:Would like to hear someones take on this.

assuming all healthy...

I stopped right there. Worst assumption ever.


Agreed. Ofcourse it's silly to project injuries but i don't think it's realistic to believe that teams like the Heat/Bulls will be healthy for a full season based on recent performance
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#64 » by Ballerhogger » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:06 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Cleveland/Milwaukee have to be the most overrated teams this summer

How is CLE overrated? They willl have best basketball player and good 2nd option to start next year. They play the east. Irving will come back. They have Mosgov for full season now. MILK slightly overrated but nobody expects them to make it to ECF. They have a chance but thats about it.
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#65 » by Left Side Drive » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:59 pm

Even if it is the Eastern conference you still need to have a really good team clicking on all cylinders to get a top 2 finish. Only team I can see doing so are Hawks, Bulls and maybe the Heat.

Unless someone can convince me that the Bucks have a competent above average offense?
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Post#66 » by Bishop45 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:00 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:Cleveland/Milwaukee have to be the most overrated teams this summer

How is CLE overrated? They willl have best basketball player and good 2nd option to start next year. They play the east. Irving will come back. They have Mosgov for full season now.


They've been placed on a plateau slightly below godly. The actual champions aren't even receiving the same aura of respect. They should still be favorite's in their conference. With every team wearing a glaring health asterisk... a Cleveland team with Kyrie/Love/Varejao/Moz is exempt. And as I type, someone will say that all of them can go down and Cle would still be the best in the East then call everybody else delusional.

I know they are the superior team in the East, the level of their superiority has just become satire
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#67 » by Prez » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:01 pm

khufure wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Crazy Indeed.
Bucks at 2?
Bucks will miss the veteran leaders of Zaza, Illyasova and Dudley. Not flashy guys but understood and played their roles and did the dirty work. They may score more points but I think their defense will suffer.


How many times do we have to tell you all.

No they won't.

Bucks ceiling is 2 and their floor is 6.

Have to see if Giannis keeps being a bonehead, and what Parker looks like post-ACL. Besides upside, I thought the Bucks strength was their defense. The weakness was inexperience and offense. Maybe "low basketball IQ" could be added, we'll have to see how it all fits together. I wonder if Kidd can make MCW be a positive point guard on offense, especially with Monroe, Parker, Giannis to throw the ball to.....
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Post#68 » by Rendei » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:03 pm

In my view, the Cavs are 1, and 2-10 are basically a roll of the dice in which damn near anything can happen. I was previously pretty high on the Hawks before all the arrests and injuries and everything else, but now I'm more content to lump them in with everyone else.

So if anyone wants to convince me that their predictions are crazy, I need to see something like the Cavs not finishing number 1, or some team everyone hates like the Sixers making it in.

Atlhawks09 wrote:How do the Hawks make the ECF yet people still think they peaked? I understand we didn't get a game off the Cavs but I think they should have won game 1 and 3.


Lebron basically did a solo job in that series. "Almost" beating a solo Lebron in maybe one game isn't really something to brag about.

I understand the concern. Can they do anything to up their win total, really? Will anyone feel better about their chances against the Cavs in a series next time? Those are some extremely difficult hurdles to clear.
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#69 » by IndyPacers67 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:37 pm

Assuming the Pacers stay healthy there's no way they won't make the playoffs. Last year Solomon Hill lead the team in minutes, George Hill missed a big chunk of the first half, and of course PG didn't play until the last 6 games.

All that said, the misconception on this board is that the Pacers front court has gotten worse with the loss of West and Hibbert. Roy was still somewhat of a force defensively last year, but overall he and West had such terrible seasons they were net negatives. David West in particular was incredibly lethargic all season and probably the worst front court defensive player in the NBA. Jordan Hill, LaVoy Allen, Miles Turner, Ian Mahnimi is barely serviceable and likely to be the one of the worst front courts in the east, but it really can't get worse than it was last season.

With PG, Monta and GHill, the Pacers will probably win 43-47 games, good for the 6 seed in the East this year.

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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#70 » by khufure » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:46 pm

Milbuck wrote:
khufure wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:
How many times do we have to tell you all.

No they won't.

Bucks ceiling is 2 and their floor is 6.

Have to see if Giannis keeps being a bonehead, and what Parker looks like post-ACL. Besides upside, I thought the Bucks strength was their defense. The weakness was inexperience and offense. Maybe "low basketball IQ" could be added, we'll have to see how it all fits together. I wonder if Kidd can make MCW be a positive point guard on offense, especially with Monroe, Parker, Giannis to throw the ball to.....
Is this a joke?

You got a short term memory or what?
http://www.businessinsider.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-flagrant-2-foul-on-mike-dunleavy-2015-4
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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#71 » by j-ragg » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:04 pm

To say Milwaukee's floor is 6 is stupid. They will probably make the playoffs again but a lot of other teams got better too. The East may not be great compared to the West but it's going to be a lot more competitive.
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Post#72 » by Manute Lol » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:13 pm

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Post#73 » by F N 11 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:30 pm

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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#74 » by Prez » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:34 pm

khufure wrote:
Milbuck wrote:
khufure wrote:Have to see if Giannis keeps being a bonehead, and what Parker looks like post-ACL. Besides upside, I thought the Bucks strength was their defense. The weakness was inexperience and offense. Maybe "low basketball IQ" could be added, we'll have to see how it all fits together. I wonder if Kidd can make MCW be a positive point guard on offense, especially with Monroe, Parker, Giannis to throw the ball to.....
Is this a joke?

You got a short term memory or what?
http://www.businessinsider.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-flagrant-2-foul-on-mike-dunleavy-2015-4

One dumb frustration move (which came after 2 clear and uncalled cheap shots by Dunleavy) has nothing to do with who he is as a person or as a player. The kid is as down to earth, hard working, and driven a player as you can find in this league, and has a terrific BBIQ. If you honestly think he's a bonehead I don't know what to tell you.
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Post#76 » by jbk1234 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:52 pm

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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#77 » by The_Hater » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:06 pm

Choker wrote:Milwaukee at 2? Yikes.


That's a bit bold for sure but certainly not impossible playing in the east where 50-51 wins might secure #2. Milwaukee is young, deep, talented, well coached and will almost certainly be better than last season.

I still think Indiana makes the playoffs with their best player returning and led by an underrated coach. And I'm not nearly as bullish on Boston as many others are. Boston's entire roster is made up of 4th-8th men IMO, they don't have enough high end talent. You need star players in this league.
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Post#78 » by HotTubMike » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:14 pm

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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#79 » by The_Hater » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:18 pm

khufure wrote:
Milbuck wrote:
khufure wrote:Have to see if Giannis keeps being a bonehead, and what Parker looks like post-ACL. Besides upside, I thought the Bucks strength was their defense. The weakness was inexperience and offense. Maybe "low basketball IQ" could be added, we'll have to see how it all fits together. I wonder if Kidd can make MCW be a positive point guard on offense, especially with Monroe, Parker, Giannis to throw the ball to.....
Is this a joke?

You got a short term memory or what?
http://www.businessinsider.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-flagrant-2-foul-on-mike-dunleavy-2015-4


Lots of flagrant fouls get committed in this league. Giannis is quite a way down the list of 'boneheads' with the young player in the league. In fact, his game and demeanor seem incredibly mature for a player his age.
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Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.


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Re: Crazy EC playoff-seed-predictions 

Post#80 » by The_Hater » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:30 pm

Atlhawks09 wrote:How do the Hawks make the ECF yet people still think they peaked? I understand we didn't get a game off the Cavs but I think they should have won game 1 and 3.


But they didn't win those games did they? Overall they didn't have a very strong playoff run considering where they were seeded and the fact that the Cavs were playing shorthanded.

As for this season, the Hawks lost Carroll who was their most important perimeter defender and that was after they limped through the 2nd half of the season. As for peaking, they're not exactly a young team. Schroeder has upside but I'm not sure where else they get better. Korver turns 35 this season. Millsap (I love the guy) has almost certainly peaked as he's turning 31 this season. Horford and Teague are in their prime and not likely to have another level. The Hawks starting 5 had great health last season which will be tough to duplicate.

Anything could happen, I just don't see how they approach 60 wins again this season, especially when they didn't finish last season like a 60 win team. Regression is almost a certainty.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.


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