Rondo and Karl getting into it!

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#61 » by City of Trees » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:13 pm

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jpengland wrote:I was hyped when Rondo came to Dallas. He was genuinely worse than Jameer Nelson and then quit on his teammates in the playoffs. On court, he was genuinely dreadful, we are talking DREADFUl. On both sides of the ball.

He's done. But still has that star entitlement.

He will be a negative for the Kings. Anyone thinking otherwise is deluding themselves.

Have you watched him play this preseason? He is not done.

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Pre season has always been a great barometer....

Im not predicting all star type season, I simply said Rondo can still play.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#62 » by City of Trees » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:15 pm

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jpengland wrote:I was hyped when Rondo came to Dallas. He was genuinely worse than Jameer Nelson and then quit on his teammates in the playoffs. On court, he was genuinely dreadful, we are talking DREADFUl. On both sides of the ball.

He's done. But still has that star entitlement.

He will be a negative for the Kings. Anyone thinking otherwise is deluding themselves.

Have you watched him play this preseason? He is not done.

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Is he better than Collison?

The two are different players, both bring different attributes to the table. Collison is the better player but Rondo appears to make his teammates better more so than Collison.



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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#63 » by Bill Pidto » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:19 pm

It's a shame what happened to the Kings franchise. I was obsessed with the Chris Webber team. This sh*t feels like something Isiah Thomas put together.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#64 » by K_chile22 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:20 pm

The guy who asked the question said it was just dry humor on Rondos part and they are fine but I don't know how true that is
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#65 » by Doddage » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:25 pm

I can't picture Rondo being the joking type, but if so, I guess perceptions like those tie into his humor. It's almost like he's making fun of himself just to troll the media, which is kinda brilliant.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#66 » by Bill Pidto » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:28 pm

mvpshaq32 wrote:https://twitter.com/James_Ham/status/654344086065811456

Hearing that Rondo's comments in the locker room last night were tongue and cheek. Should had clarified, but he thought it was understood.


Rondo got all of you on a ball-and-string


That's a relief. The Kings still look like an Isiah Thomas team. Not the guy they traded.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#67 » by hundreth » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:31 pm

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hundreth wrote:Karl is exactly the kind of coach you don't want to pair with Rondo. Karl is an egotistical dbag who tries to force his players into specific roles instead of motivating them.

With a player like Rondo, you can't bully him into doing things your way. He's too smart for that. If you want to get the most out of Rondo, you need to give him some degree of creative freedom, otherwise he will get bored and complacent. This is why he got along well with Doc Rivers. Doc gave him enough freedom to be himself, but there was a mutual respect where Rondo wouldn't cross certain boundaries.

If you want a PG who simply follows the system and doesn't stray, you are wasting your time with Rondo.



Ummm, that's not actually true. One thing Karl does as well as any coach is devise his schemes to fit the personnel he's given.


He might be aware of great ways to utilize his personnel, but that doesn't mean he knows how to motivate them. His insistence on Melo bullying inside for buckets, or insulting JR Smith after bad shots - those aren't great ways to encourage players to work to their strengths.

For example, one thing the Cavs did with JR Smith that really helped him was to tell him he was free to shoot from the very beginning. They allowed him to play instead of second guess himself constantly. For other players, this may not be the best approach. For JR Smith, this is great.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#68 » by nomansland » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:39 pm

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hundreth wrote:Karl is exactly the kind of coach you don't want to pair with Rondo. Karl is an egotistical dbag who tries to force his players into specific roles instead of motivating them.

With a player like Rondo, you can't bully him into doing things your way. He's too smart for that. If you want to get the most out of Rondo, you need to give him some degree of creative freedom, otherwise he will get bored and complacent. This is why he got along well with Doc Rivers. Doc gave him enough freedom to be himself, but there was a mutual respect where Rondo wouldn't cross certain boundaries.

If you want a PG who simply follows the system and doesn't stray, you are wasting your time with Rondo.



Ummm, that's not actually true. One thing Karl does as well as any coach is devise his schemes to fit the personnel he's given.


He might be aware of great ways to utilize his personnel, but that doesn't mean he knows how to motivate them. His insistence on Melo bullying inside for buckets, or insulting JR Smith after bad shots - those aren't great ways to encourage players to work to their strengths.

For example, one thing the Cavs did with JR Smith that really helped him was to tell him he was free to shoot from the very beginning. They allowed him to play instead of second guess himself constantly. For other players, this may not be the best approach. For JR Smith, this is great.


I disagree with the "forcing players into specific roles" part more than anything. If getting on dudes for taking awful shots is somehow forcing them to play a specific way, give me that coach every day.

JR on the Nugs was a knucklehead and while he didn't get along with Karl at all, in some ways he might be lucky to have landed in Denver because at least Karl gave him playing time and made him follow some structure. Otherwise he could easily have been out of the league because he'd been too much of a knucklehead twice (it wasn't just for Karl) and nobody wanted him.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#69 » by Jack_Tretton » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:40 pm

hundreth wrote:
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hundreth wrote:Karl is exactly the kind of coach you don't want to pair with Rondo. Karl is an egotistical dbag who tries to force his players into specific roles instead of motivating them.

With a player like Rondo, you can't bully him into doing things your way. He's too smart for that. If you want to get the most out of Rondo, you need to give him some degree of creative freedom, otherwise he will get bored and complacent. This is why he got along well with Doc Rivers. Doc gave him enough freedom to be himself, but there was a mutual respect where Rondo wouldn't cross certain boundaries.

If you want a PG who simply follows the system and doesn't stray, you are wasting your time with Rondo.



Ummm, that's not actually true. One thing Karl does as well as any coach is devise his schemes to fit the personnel he's given.


He might be aware of great ways to utilize his personnel, but that doesn't mean he knows how to motivate them. His insistence on Melo bullying inside for buckets, or insulting JR Smith after bad shots - those aren't great ways to encourage players to work to their strengths.

For example, one thing the Cavs did with JR Smith that really helped him was to tell him he was free to shoot from the very beginning. They allowed him to play instead of second guess himself constantly. For other players, this may not be the best approach. For JR Smith, this is great.


Sure, if you meant babysit instead of motivate. The only reason Karl isn't more highly regarded is because he ran into possibly the greatest team of all time. I'd never question Karl with his basketball decisions.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#70 » by KF10 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:47 pm

Rondo was pulling a fast one.

This is a non-story.
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Post#71 » by King Baller » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:13 pm

In Northern California we are used to teams being formed of talented cast offs that become good teams. JUST WIN BABY!!!

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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#72 » by Eyeamok » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:15 pm

Rondo just trolled the NBA and the Realgm message board.





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Post#73 » by City of Trees » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:23 pm

King Baller wrote:In Northern California we are used to teams being formed of talented cast offs that become good teams. JUST WIN BABY!!!

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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#74 » by Dupp » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:26 pm

Signing rondo and Karl was incredibly stupid. The team is a disaster.
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Post#75 » by Xsy » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:38 pm

Why would Rondo even joke about this?

Stupid move, Rajon. Your team already has enough distractions.
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#76 » by Jaylee209 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:44 pm

You pansies got trolled! Couldn't wait to pounce on the Kings for any negative news eh? lol
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#77 » by Jack_Tretton » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:49 pm

Jaylee209 wrote:You pansies got trolled! Couldn't wait to pounce on the Kings for any negative news eh? lol


The NBA should thank the Kings because I'm probably not the only person to purchase the league pass to watch how things unfold in Sacramento.
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Post#78 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:11 pm

Dupp wrote:Signing rondo and Karl was incredibly stupid. The team is a disaster.


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Post#79 » by SunKing » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:15 pm

Just saw on my FB timeline, the Kings posted a photo of Georges Karl and Rajon Rondo leaving the training together lol
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Re: Rondo and Karl getting into it! 

Post#80 » by codydaze » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:26 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/James_Ham/status/654386825063088128[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/James_Ham/status/654390680345706496[/tweet]

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