Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz

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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#61 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:01 pm

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Blame Rasho wrote:Beal had the biggest contract for a non allstar... now Conley will have that honer


actually, biggest contract for a person who plays basketball. ever.


Don't you hate it when someone quotes you and you see a typo...lol...

The draft is going to be beyond important nowadays for you to not draft a bust and get a cheap contract for at least 4 to 5 years.
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#62 » by Jordan45822 » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:03 pm

Hopefully people and some of the media will stop whining about MLB contracts from now on.
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#63 » by Warriorfan » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:03 pm

No state income tax plus games played in Texas teams in division no tax as well.

I'm glad that the small market team can contend if something happens to top 4 teams
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#64 » by Nuggets_Talk » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:04 pm

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Blame Rasho wrote:Beal had the biggest contract for a non allstar... now Conley will have that honer


actually, biggest contract for a person who plays basketball. ever.


Don't you hate it when someone quotes you and you see a typo...lol...

The draft is going to be beyond important nowadays for you to not draft a bust and get a cheap contract for at least 4 to 5 years.


agreed. there needs to be some more tiers in there. it goes from 3-4 years of super cheap contracts to super expensive over night.

there needs to be a middle ground for first extensions.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#65 » by Novocaine » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:04 pm

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pb-ceo wrote:unfortunately your analysis is backward looking and obsolete. I am making a well informed prediction about what comes next. you are talking about history. my analysis is about the future. not the past. howeve,r your analysis is a good summation of how things used to work in the nba. and for that the board is appreciative of the history lesson. and in the future if you want a real dialogue with somebody then I would change your Tone and approach. because your harsh approach did not invite me into a healthy dialogue. regards


No, my analysis is based on the fact that all this additional revenue comes from the TV deals (and only half of that added revenue is going to salaries, the rest stays in the team to cover other expenses+profit), and doesn't imply any increase in ticket prices - quite the contrary, NBA franchises could decrease ticket prices and still meet the ex ante bottom line. What you call a "well informed prediction" is nothing but a misinformed rant. I wasn't inviting you for a dialogue, rather correcting your post.

they won't DECREASE ticket prices. they will increase them. I guarantee it. now if you'll excuse me, I will go back to adding value by providing well thought out insights to the readers. and you can go back to adding value by telling everybody what has already happened. and while you are at it you should examine they way you choose to respond to other posters here.


Yeah, they'll increase more or less in line with inflation, just like it's happened so far. Why do you think that will change? Unless there's an increased demand for seeing NBA games live, it won't change and tickets prices won't increase above the trend line. You just thought they would because you believe franchises would need added revenue to meet these new contracts - but it's exactly the opposite. And stop trying to make this personal. All my comment was factual and judgement-free. No idea why you were so bothered with the "tone" and the "harshness". Because of the "absolute nonsense"? That's what it was, deal with it without making it personal.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#66 » by Novocaine » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:09 pm

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Novocaine wrote:Conley + Parsons + Gasol is a great combo if they can stay healthy. Should be a fun team to watch.


That's a lot of money to run on the treadmill and maybe make the WSF.


A lot of money? I don't see why. People are just freaking out over the absolute values, but historically NBA teams operate over the cap and that's what's going to keep happening henceforth. It'll be tough to build a true contender around this core, but building a true contender is always a complicated proposition, there are 3 to 6 every season. It'll keep them competing while shed off the obligations of the draft picks they owe and perhaps they can pry a 4th piece next off-season or unveil some hidden gem.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#67 » by HeartBreakKid » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:11 pm

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No, my analysis is based on the fact that all this additional revenue comes from the TV deals (and only half of that added revenue is going to salaries, the rest stays in the team to cover other expenses+profit), and doesn't imply any increase in ticket prices - quite the contrary, NBA franchises could decrease ticket prices and still meet the ex ante bottom line. What you call a "well informed prediction" is nothing but a misinformed rant. I wasn't inviting you for a dialogue, rather correcting your post.

they won't DECREASE ticket prices. they will increase them. I guarantee it. now if you'll excuse me, I will go back to adding value by providing well thought out insights to the readers. and you can go back to adding value by telling everybody what has already happened. and while you are at it you should examine they way you choose to respond to other posters here.


Yeah, they'll increase more or less in line with inflation, just like it's happened so far. Why do you think that will change? Unless there's an increased demand for seeing NBA games live, it won't. And stop trying to make this personal. All my comment was factual and judgement-free. No idea why you were so bothered with the "tone" and the "harshness". Because of the "absolute nonsense"? That's what it was, deal with it without making it personal.


Yeah, I'm not sure what this guy is talking about. Paying players more money does not indicate higher ticket sales, only higher demand would cause ticket sales to rise. This is why GSW is super expensive, not because it is not the old NBA, but because they're marketed in an expensive metro area and are the biggest attraction in the NBA.

The Nets, a team based out in a major area like Brooklyn, have tickets that go for dirt cheap. Venues have no reason to raise ticket prices if people aren't coming out to see their shows.
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#68 » by pb-ceo » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:14 pm

dude think about the way you responded. and think how you could have done it differently. and learn from it. you are probably young and thought I was just a kid and would simply accept that kind of response. I assure you things will go better for you in life if you do learn from this exchange.

why do I think ticket prices will go up much faster than inflation from this point is because salary cap is going up faster than inflation. this is an unprecedented jump in the salary cap. the CLE owner is losing money on an operations basis. teams are not swimming in profits. the value of the teams keep rising. but don't assume that these are extraordinary profit making enterprises. it's human nature that prices will go up because owners will want to protect and increase profits. and when they can pass on increasing costs they will. they will charge what the market will bear. and right now there is a high demand from elites and corporations for NBA tickets. prepare for ticket prices to go up.
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Post#69 » by 10DayContract » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:21 pm

Conley has the best dad ever.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#70 » by 510TWSS » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:24 pm

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bushybrah_ wrote:So he's the highest paid in the league now?


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With how today is going we'll have a new "record breaking" deal every 20 minutes.


No, you don't understand how max salaries work. This is literally the largest possible contract that can be given out this year, because (a) Conley is in the 7-9 year experience range (b) He is re-signing with his incumbent team, who are the only ones who can give him 7.5% annual raises (other teams can only offer 4.5%) (c) This starts at his full max annual salary.

Durant's maximum possible contract is exactly this amount (and only if he re-signs with OKC). Only Dwight could get more this year (10+ years experience), but he will not (HOU not interested in re-signing him).

So yes, this WILL actually be the biggest contract in NBA history for at least the next year.


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Post#71 » by Ben-N1ce » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:25 pm

Salary to skill level in the NBA is broken.
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#72 » by vanhowell » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:25 pm

He tops Davis 145M contract! Lmao
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#73 » by franktony » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:28 pm

I don't blame them, but Conley just became the new Joe Johnson.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#74 » by Dominator83 » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:28 pm

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pb-ceo wrote:the nba is changed forever. the average man on teh street can not afford to go to games. it's the elite and corporations that will occupy the seats. and they will be on their phones all game. they will arrive late. they will leave early. and they will go drink and socialize at half time. enjoy your new nba fans. it's deserved.

there are only a very few players in the league that can afford to simply think about "rings" when they sign deals. rings are the last thing on most player's minds when you are talking about his kind of wealth.


Absolute nonsense. NBA tickets prices haven't really been increasing above inflation prices and there are still plenty of opportunities to get bargains as long as you're not looking for premium seats in contending teams or playoffs (but those have been expensive for many years now). All this additional money comes from the TV deals (and increased sponsorship) - and actually it's only half of that increase in revenue. Teams can pay all these contracts and still improve their financial situation without increasing tickets prices.

Not for us Bulls fans. Prices have skyrocketed in the last few years.Its about $100 bucks a pop now for the top of the nosebleeds. I guess some of that is the bandwagon fans ruining it too once 2011 hit. In 2009, I went to that epic Bulls/Celtics game 6. i bought the tix about a week before the game, sat fairly low in the nosebleeds for $60. 2 years later game 1 round 1 vs Indiana wouldve ran me $100
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#75 » by Young_Star11 » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:31 pm

Memphis had no other choice really. This confines them to the first round (or second round depending on match-ups) of the West playoffs for another few years.
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Re: Mike Conley Re-Signs 5yrs/153M With The Grizz 

Post#76 » by inquisitive » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:34 pm

first player to get more than 30mil/yr? unbelievable....from 8mil/yr to 30mil/yr...nice raise

lebron and kd will top that next yr.
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Post#77 » by zeebneeb » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:34 pm

Nuggets_Talk wrote:Do raptor fans have to try and make every thread about the raptors somehow?
Yes, yes they do. It is absolutely tragic. Same thing in the Drummond contract thread. Salty, bitter, Raptor fans bemoaning the Ross selection.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#78 » by bigmandinky » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:36 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Nuggets_Talk wrote:Do raptor fans have to try and make every thread about the raptors somehow?
Yes, yes they do. It is absolutely tragic. Same thing in the Drummond contract thread. Salty, bitter, Raptor fans bemoaning the Ross selection.


Lol what is there to be salty about, that you guys signed Drummond long term? JV is the better player and is making a lot less too.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#79 » by nbafan341 » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:36 pm

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Kevistics wrote:LOL and people said derozan was overpaid. give it a rest you guys..


is he. conley doesnt change that.

its very annoying watching people compare old contracts to the new, like any of that matters at all.

What's the old and new comparison's here, both contracts have technically not even been handed out, they've merely agreed on terms. My point was that people lashed out hearing the derozan news, and considering there is a difference between the numbers from both the derozan and conley contract, conley's is still slightly worse.

Look, I understand that everyone nowadays is overpaid because of the market.
Parsons, beal, turner, noah, derozan, batum all got overpaid. RELATIVE TO ONE ANOTHER, everyone is overpaid.
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Re: Mike Conley Offered 5yrs/153 Mill From The Grizz 

Post#80 » by zeebneeb » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:38 pm

bigmandinky wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:
Nuggets_Talk wrote:Do raptor fans have to try and make every thread about the raptors somehow?
Yes, yes they do. It is absolutely tragic. Same thing in the Drummond contract thread. Salty, bitter, Raptor fans bemoaning the Ross selection.


Lol what is there to be salty about, that you guys signed Drummond long term? JV is the better player and is making a lot less too.
:lol: It's like a traveling circus. It's like you dont even have enough self awareness to understand why your reply to me is even more absurd.

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