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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#61 » by dc » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:37 pm

Not that it has anything to do with this, but it was pretty funny back when Cuban said Kobe getting arrested for rape was potentially good for the league/publicity.
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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#62 » by jeeph » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:47 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:After the Toronto series, and the way Lebron came out so classy calling our fans and organization great, i've been a believer.

No lie, almost got tears in my eyes to see him collapse in tears when he won the championship for cleveland.

He is a legend and the best player in the league. Still is today.

I'm cheering for him to take it to the Warriors and solidify his legendary greatness.

And he will. He's the good guy now ;)


It's all about class. You guys fought hard even though you didn't have much of a chance. Didn't try and turn the game into taking cheap shots like Boston did the year before and gave the Cavs props for beating you when you fell short. Class act organization.

The Dubs, after they beat a team that was decimated by injuries, saw LeBron turn in an all time great performance and said Iggy was the true MVP and that the Cavs locker room still smelt like champagne. Then when they lose we hear about injuries, Curry was 70%, that LeBron wasn't mentally tough even though Curry was the one to throw a temper tantrum, ect.... Classless losers and even worse, classless winners. And then they get lucky enough to sign the baby back bitch to make the competitive balance even worse.

And then they wonder why they are the villains of the league? Karma is a bitch.

There are a lot of good GSW fans on here and I'm sure the GSW players for the most part are good guys off the court. It's the on the court/interview stuff they have to work on.
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Re: Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#63 » by sfhand » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:02 pm

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Are you denying that Curry, Green, and Klay have shown arrogance with a lack of humility off the court? :lol:


Are you saying that unless a person is humble at all times they are arrogant? Comparing the body of work of any of those 3 to, say, Lebron, I would say they are resoundingly NOT arrogant (and I would say GS fans aren't suffering from Stockholm syndrome as well). Compared to Gandhi most of us are extremely arrogant.


They've all been arrogant enough times that we really can't call them humble. Winning does that.

LeBron has been a success for far longer than Curry/Klay/Green. He's obviously arrogant. Most superstars have lacked humility, and that's what I'm telling you.

Curry/Klay/Green aren't the humble golden-boys that you want them to be, whether or not they're as arrogant as LeBron.



Well then, I'd say it's time for you to back up your assertions with a list of links...
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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

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sfhand wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
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Are you saying that unless a person is humble at all times they are arrogant? Comparing the body of work of any of those 3 to, say, Lebron, I would say they are resoundingly NOT arrogant (and I would say GS fans aren't suffering from Stockholm syndrome as well). Compared to Gandhi most of us are extremely arrogant.


They've all been arrogant enough times that we really can't call them humble. Winning does that.

LeBron has been a success for far longer than Curry/Klay/Green. He's obviously arrogant. Most superstars have lacked humility, and that's what I'm telling you.

Curry/Klay/Green aren't the humble golden-boys that you want them to be, whether or not they're as arrogant as LeBron.



Well then, I'd say it's time for you to back up your assertions with a list of links...


http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-golden-state-warriors-cavs-suck-title-celebration-061916

http://warriors.247sports.com/Bolt/Stephen-Curry-guarantees-a-win-over-the-Oklahoma-City-Thunder-43235136

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/16156433/guess-feelings-just-got-hurt

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2016/4/2/11352716/draymond-green-doesnt-think-the-warriors-loss-to-nuggets-should-count

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/17/stephen-curry-warriors-cavaliers-rematch-comments

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/19/11457962/golden-state-warriors-arrogance-joe-lacob

There you go, buddy. Just to name some.

- Green says the Cavs suck during title celebration
- Steph guarantees a win over the Thunder
- Klay, while up 3-1, claims LeBron had his feelings hurt
- Draymond Green saying he puts an asterisk by the Warriors losses and that they shouldn't count
- Steph saying he hopes the Cavs locker room still smell like champagne (1st return to Cleveland since the 2015 finals)
- Iguodala calling a playoff game against the Rockets a practice scrimmage

Those are some examples. Now, compound all of the above ^^ with reports of reporters hearing Curry/Green trashing opponents and laughing in locker rooms after wins. Compound it by the owner Joe Lacob saying the Warriors are light years ahead of everyone else and will dominate the league for years to come. Compound by all the arrogant ON-COURT antics by the Warriors (everything I listed was off-court. If I was to list on-court, I could write a 2000 word post).

You're a blind-homer if you think that team is humble and not arrogant. Regardless, I expect for your response to be: "derrr other peeple r not humble either LuhBron iz arrogent!!"
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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#66 » by Bobbymcgee » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:09 pm

I think being the "bad guy", Kevin Durant being able to opt out next summer, and lack of depth on their bench, is what is going to prevent the Warriors from winning it all next year. I think all of the above will weigh too heavily on them as the season wears on. If they have an especially poor showing in the playoffs next summer I can easily see Durant leaving for another team.
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Re: Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#67 » by improper » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:33 pm

Vee-Rex wrote:
sfhand wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
They've all been arrogant enough times that we really can't call them humble. Winning does that.

LeBron has been a success for far longer than Curry/Klay/Green. He's obviously arrogant. Most superstars have lacked humility, and that's what I'm telling you.

Curry/Klay/Green aren't the humble golden-boys that you want them to be, whether or not they're as arrogant as LeBron.



Well then, I'd say it's time for you to back up your assertions with a list of links...


http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-golden-state-warriors-cavs-suck-title-celebration-061916

http://warriors.247sports.com/Bolt/Stephen-Curry-guarantees-a-win-over-the-Oklahoma-City-Thunder-43235136

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/16156433/guess-feelings-just-got-hurt

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2016/4/2/11352716/draymond-green-doesnt-think-the-warriors-loss-to-nuggets-should-count

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/17/stephen-curry-warriors-cavaliers-rematch-comments

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/19/11457962/golden-state-warriors-arrogance-joe-lacob

There you go, buddy. Just to name some.

- Green says the Cavs suck during title celebration
- Steph guarantees a win over the Thunder
- Klay, while up 3-1, claims LeBron had his feelings hurt
- Draymond Green saying he puts an asterisk by the Warriors losses and that they shouldn't count
- Steph saying he hopes the Cavs locker room still smell like champagne (1st return to Cleveland since the 2015 finals)
- Iguodala calling a playoff game against the Rockets a practice scrimmage

Those are some examples. Now, compound all of the above ^^ with reports of reporters hearing Curry/Green trashing opponents and laughing in locker rooms after wins. Compound it by the owner Joe Lacob saying the Warriors are light years ahead of everyone else and will dominate the league for years to come. Compound by all the arrogant ON-COURT antics by the Warriors (everything I listed was off-court. If I was to list on-court, I could write a 2000 word post).

You're a blind-homer if you think that team is humble and not arrogant. Regardless, I expect for your response to be: "derrr other peeple r not humble either LuhBron iz arrogent!!"


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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#68 » by piston1423 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:38 pm

I hoesntly don't think the Warriors are any better than last year. They just added another shooter(which they didn't even need) and weakened their defense. I think they should of tried to get someone who could rebound and also could get easy buckets in the post. This Warriors team isn't unbeatable and if they don't win this year, I could see Durant leaving seeing how he's only on a 2 year deal with a players option.
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Post#69 » by sfhand » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:32 pm

Vee-Rex wrote:
sfhand wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
They've all been arrogant enough times that we really can't call them humble. Winning does that.

LeBron has been a success for far longer than Curry/Klay/Green. He's obviously arrogant. Most superstars have lacked humility, and that's what I'm telling you.

Curry/Klay/Green aren't the humble golden-boys that you want them to be, whether or not they're as arrogant as LeBron.



Well then, I'd say it's time for you to back up your assertions with a list of links...


http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-golden-state-warriors-cavs-suck-title-celebration-061916

http://warriors.247sports.com/Bolt/Stephen-Curry-guarantees-a-win-over-the-Oklahoma-City-Thunder-43235136

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/16156433/guess-feelings-just-got-hurt

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2016/4/2/11352716/draymond-green-doesnt-think-the-warriors-loss-to-nuggets-should-count

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/17/stephen-curry-warriors-cavaliers-rematch-comments

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/19/11457962/golden-state-warriors-arrogance-joe-lacob

There you go, buddy. Just to name some.

- Green says the Cavs suck during title celebration
- Steph guarantees a win over the Thunder
- Klay, while up 3-1, claims LeBron had his feelings hurt
- Draymond Green saying he puts an asterisk by the Warriors losses and that they shouldn't count
- Steph saying he hopes the Cavs locker room still smell like champagne (1st return to Cleveland since the 2015 finals)
- Iguodala calling a playoff game against the Rockets a practice scrimmage

Those are some examples. Now, compound all of the above ^^ with reports of reporters hearing Curry/Green trashing opponents and laughing in locker rooms after wins. Compound it by the owner Joe Lacob saying the Warriors are light years ahead of everyone else and will dominate the league for years to come. Compound by all the arrogant ON-COURT antics by the Warriors (everything I listed was off-court. If I was to list on-court, I could write a 2000 word post).

You're a blind-homer if you think that team is humble and not arrogant. Regardless, I expect for your response to be: "derrr other peeple r not humble either LuhBron iz arrogent!!"


Is that really the best you could come up with? Did you even bother to read the stuff you posted? Maybe your feelings got hurt?

I cringed when Draymond said the Cavs sucked. I expected that on the list. The champagne comment and the 2 wins comment don't amount to anything to a person with a sense of humor. Klay was spot on about Lebron's feelings. Igoudala was probably just returning fire for the Rockets saying the warriors "weren't that good". As a Cavs fan you haven't seen 1% of what I've seen of the Warriors.

The bottom line, for me, is when people act or say things I have a choice in how I interpret it. You obviously choose to assign Warriors the worst possible motives; I don't. I am having a hard time assigning you a good motive for your last demeaning and insulting comment though. Pretty funny that you think I would use Lebron as an example of arrogance after you posted that.
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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#70 » by Jables » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:41 pm

tidho wrote:Classic WWF/WWE stuff in play.

A strong heel team is great for the NBA.
An unbeatable heel team is not.

GS already became the bad guys, that's what they were last year. They got away with breaking the rules, and they still won. People believed they were unbeatable, but the face overcame the insurmountable odds.

Now they actually are unbeatable. Its the equivalent of a tape delay PPV where everyone already knows who wins. That's not good for basketball.


In the Attitude era anyone worth their salt was a heel lol. Clearly the solution is to get every good player in the league onto as few teams as possible.
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Post#71 » by Vee-Rex » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:55 pm

sfhand wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
sfhand wrote:

Well then, I'd say it's time for you to back up your assertions with a list of links...


http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-golden-state-warriors-cavs-suck-title-celebration-061916

http://warriors.247sports.com/Bolt/Stephen-Curry-guarantees-a-win-over-the-Oklahoma-City-Thunder-43235136

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/16156433/guess-feelings-just-got-hurt

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2016/4/2/11352716/draymond-green-doesnt-think-the-warriors-loss-to-nuggets-should-count

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/17/stephen-curry-warriors-cavaliers-rematch-comments

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/19/11457962/golden-state-warriors-arrogance-joe-lacob

There you go, buddy. Just to name some.

- Green says the Cavs suck during title celebration
- Steph guarantees a win over the Thunder
- Klay, while up 3-1, claims LeBron had his feelings hurt
- Draymond Green saying he puts an asterisk by the Warriors losses and that they shouldn't count
- Steph saying he hopes the Cavs locker room still smell like champagne (1st return to Cleveland since the 2015 finals)
- Iguodala calling a playoff game against the Rockets a practice scrimmage

Those are some examples. Now, compound all of the above ^^ with reports of reporters hearing Curry/Green trashing opponents and laughing in locker rooms after wins. Compound it by the owner Joe Lacob saying the Warriors are light years ahead of everyone else and will dominate the league for years to come. Compound by all the arrogant ON-COURT antics by the Warriors (everything I listed was off-court. If I was to list on-court, I could write a 2000 word post).

You're a blind-homer if you think that team is humble and not arrogant. Regardless, I expect for your response to be: "derrr other peeple r not humble either LuhBron iz arrogent!!"


Is that really the best you could come up with? Did you even bother to read the stuff you posted? Maybe your feelings got hurt?

I cringed when Draymond said the Cavs sucked. I expected that on the list. The champagne comment and the 2 wins comment don't amount to anything to a person with a sense of humor. Klay was spot on about Lebron's feelings. Igoudala was probably just returning fire for the Rockets saying the warriors "weren't that good". As a Cavs fan you haven't seen 1% of what I've seen of the Warriors.

The bottom line, for me, is when people act or say things I have a choice in how I interpret it. You obviously choose to assign Warriors the worst possible motives; I don't. I am having a hard time assigning you a good motive for your last demeaning and insulting comment though. Pretty funny that you think I would use Lebron as an example of arrogance after you posted that.


Blind-homer is blind when an excuse is made (humor? lol seriously??? You know how many people I can use this as an excuse for?) for their arrogant remarks.

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Post#72 » by jcuuofd » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:59 pm

The Warriors are still likable and Lebron is still the bad guy. Kevin Durant doesn't have a bad bone in his body.
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Post#73 » by sfhand » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:06 pm

Vee-Rex wrote:
sfhand wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/draymond-green-golden-state-warriors-cavs-suck-title-celebration-061916

http://warriors.247sports.com/Bolt/Stephen-Curry-guarantees-a-win-over-the-Oklahoma-City-Thunder-43235136

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/16156433/guess-feelings-just-got-hurt

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2016/4/2/11352716/draymond-green-doesnt-think-the-warriors-loss-to-nuggets-should-count

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/01/17/stephen-curry-warriors-cavaliers-rematch-comments

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/4/19/11457962/golden-state-warriors-arrogance-joe-lacob

There you go, buddy. Just to name some.

- Green says the Cavs suck during title celebration
- Steph guarantees a win over the Thunder
- Klay, while up 3-1, claims LeBron had his feelings hurt
- Draymond Green saying he puts an asterisk by the Warriors losses and that they shouldn't count
- Steph saying he hopes the Cavs locker room still smell like champagne (1st return to Cleveland since the 2015 finals)
- Iguodala calling a playoff game against the Rockets a practice scrimmage

Those are some examples. Now, compound all of the above ^^ with reports of reporters hearing Curry/Green trashing opponents and laughing in locker rooms after wins. Compound it by the owner Joe Lacob saying the Warriors are light years ahead of everyone else and will dominate the league for years to come. Compound by all the arrogant ON-COURT antics by the Warriors (everything I listed was off-court. If I was to list on-court, I could write a 2000 word post).

You're a blind-homer if you think that team is humble and not arrogant. Regardless, I expect for your response to be: "derrr other peeple r not humble either LuhBron iz arrogent!!"


Is that really the best you could come up with? Did you even bother to read the stuff you posted? Maybe your feelings got hurt?

I cringed when Draymond said the Cavs sucked. I expected that on the list. The champagne comment and the 2 wins comment don't amount to anything to a person with a sense of humor. Klay was spot on about Lebron's feelings. Igoudala was probably just returning fire for the Rockets saying the warriors "weren't that good". As a Cavs fan you haven't seen 1% of what I've seen of the Warriors.

The bottom line, for me, is when people act or say things I have a choice in how I interpret it. You obviously choose to assign Warriors the worst possible motives; I don't. I am having a hard time assigning you a good motive for your last demeaning and insulting comment though. Pretty funny that you think I would use Lebron as an example of arrogance after you posted that.


Blind-homer is blind when an excuse is made (humor? lol seriously??? You know how many people I can use this as an excuse for?) for their arrogant remarks.

:lol:

LOL at you calling anyone arrogant.

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Post#74 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:27 pm

Cuban is a smart business man. He gets it.
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Post#75 » by pelifan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:37 pm

Yo Cubes. We'll trade you Andrew Bogut for good PR.
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Post#76 » by Tai » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:20 pm

I agree with Cuban. I was viewing these boards in 2010 when Lebron went to the Heat. People said the same thing about possibly not watching the NBA anymore. Casual fans recycling that crap 6 years later over the same beast, different names means nothing to me.

The Warriors will be a great team this season, no question. Unbeatable? Before freaking preseason? We've heard it all before, people. And again, people will be right there to watch.
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Post#77 » by Nazrmohamed » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:03 am

cochiseuofm wrote:I don't know if I agree with this. I have a lot of friends who are on the fence about liking and watching the NBA and my feeling from them is they lost general interest when Durant signed with GS.


Well I call bull on alot of your friends. And alot of my friends. Cause you and me both know those same guys who threaten not to watch will be the same guys rooting for Durant to fail. How will they know he's failing, how can they see it?

They'll be watching. And people making way too big a deal anyway. Its happening, get over it. It wont be the last time either. Nobody stopped watching baseball when the Yankees won every arms race and was winning championships for the better part of a decade. They just bought pink yankee hats
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Post#78 » by CS707 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:19 am

People are so dramatic.

The league survived the Chicago Bulls dominating for the better part of a decade, I think it'll be ok.
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Post#79 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:41 am

I think there is two kinds of hate....
Hate 'em ...but respect the hell out of the way they play...the way they turned around the team to become championship level.
or
Hate'em....because you think they are made up of a bunch of dicks....cheat....and you don't respect them.

Aside from Draymond...I think most of the league respects Curry, Klay, Durant for their skills and "good guy" personalities. Bogut was sort a thug/dirty player and he's gone.

What you end up is a hyper skilled team that passes the ball and plays defense as well as any team in history.

Unless it's just jealous hate...I think most fans will "hate the team for being dominant" but respect them too.
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Re: Mark Cuban: Warriors being the bad guy will be good for NBA 

Post#80 » by og15 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:44 am

LofJ wrote:He says this because he had a hall of fame player ascend to greatness and win a championship for him over the Heat. If that had never happened he wouldn't feel this way. No one in the East or West (even Lebron) is beating the Warriors. What they did is terrible for the NBA and guarantees that there will be a lockout next summer.

Why do people say this? First of all, upsets happen, and in addition to that, injuries happen at the wrong times which can change the landscape of a matchup.

ILOVEIT wrote:I think there is two kinds of hate....
Hate 'em ...but respect the hell out of the way they play...the way they turned around the team to become championship level.
or
Hate'em....because you think they are made up of a bunch of dicks....cheat....and you don't respect them.

Aside from Draymond...I think most of the league respects Curry, Klay, Durant for their skills and "good guy" personalities. Bogut was sort a thug/dirty player and he's gone.

What you end up is a hyper skilled team that passes the ball and plays defense as well as any team in history.

Unless it's just jealous hate...I think most fans will "hate the team for being dominant" but respect them too.
It seems like with his decision Durant has gathered people who now dislike him because they don't respect him.

I personally don't care, but based on what people are saying, that seems to be the case.

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