[Marks] A loophole in the CBA could allow Golden State to sign Andrew Bogut

[azwfan]

Is Bogut actually better than Zaza?

Can Warriors fans comment on this?

I can't comment on Bogut from this year.
Bogut last year and previous years is more impactful than Zaza by quite a large margin... but they are different players.
I'd say the primary differences are...
Bogut can finish lobs, Zaza can't.
Bogut is a shot blocker, Zaza isn't.
Zaza can make his free throws, Bogut can't.
Zaza can make an open jump shot, Bogut can't.
Bogut is elite defenisvely, Zaza is adequate.

If Bogut is the same Bogut i remember, i have a hard time finding a weakness on the club if he went back to the Warriors. I'm guessing though, that if he were the Bogut i remember, another team would have offerred Dallas / Philly SOMETHING of value to get him.
Maybe he's more fragile (if that's possible) or has lost a step.

Although i don't expect him to come back to the Warriors, i find it amusing how CLE fans were overjoyed with word that he would be released, and then distraught with the news that it was possible for him to return to the Warriors. Its the little things in life.

[picc]

Zaza is a placeholder player. He doesn't really hurt GS when he's in, and he doesn't really help them. He just puts someone in the lineup to bang with opposing bigs so Green doesn't have to do it all game. McGee is better for the Warriors, which I've been saying since the first game they both played. Zaza doesn't move the needle back or forward, either way.

Bogut still can. If GS got him, he and Zaza would basically split the minutes Zaza was playing, with McGee playing his usual number.

[lakerhater]

Is Bogut actually better than Zaza?

Can Warriors fans comment on this?

I can't comment on Bogut from this year.
Bogut last year and previous years is more impactful than Zaza by quite a large margin... but they are different players.
I'd say the primary differences are...
Bogut can finish lobs, Zaza can't.
Bogut is a shot blocker, Zaza isn't.
Zaza can make his free throws, Bogut can't.
Zaza can make an open jump shot, Bogut can't.
Bogut is elite defenisvely, Zaza is adequate.

If Bogut is the same Bogut i remember, i have a hard time finding a weakness on the club if he went back to the Warriors. I'm guessing though, that if he were the Bogut i remember, another team would have offerred Dallas / Philly SOMETHING of value to get him.
Maybe he's more fragile (if that's possible) or has lost a step.

Although i don't expect him to come back to the Warriors, i find it amusing how CLE fans were overjoyed with word that he would be released, and then distraught with the news that it was possible for him to return to the Warriors. Its the little things in life.

Only thing I can add is unless Bogut has cleaned up his tendency to set illegal screens I give Zaza the edge in that category and I'll call them even in the passing category.

[nurseryc]

Is Bogut actually better than Zaza?

Can Warriors fans comment on this?

I can't comment on Bogut from this year.
Bogut last year and previous years is more impactful than Zaza by quite a large margin... but they are different players.
I'd say the primary differences are...
Bogut can finish lobs, Zaza can't.
Bogut is a shot blocker, Zaza isn't.
Zaza can make his free throws, Bogut can't.
Zaza can make an open jump shot, Bogut can't.
Bogut is elite defenisvely, Zaza is adequate.

If Bogut is the same Bogut i remember, i have a hard time finding a weakness on the club if he went back to the Warriors. I'm guessing though, that if he were the Bogut i remember, another team would have offerred Dallas / Philly SOMETHING of value to get him.
Maybe he's more fragile (if that's possible) or has lost a step.

Although i don't expect him to come back to the Warriors, i find it amusing how CLE fans were overjoyed with word that he would be released, and then distraught with the news that it was possible for him to return to the Warriors. Its the little things in life.

Only thing I can add is unless Bogut has cleaned up his tendency to set illegal screens I give Zaza the edge in that category and I'll call them even in the passing category.

Bogut has often been referred to as one of the best passing big men in the NBA. Zaza is nowhere near Bogut level in passing ability.

[Jonatton Yeah]

If hes a cupcake he'll go the GSW the team that let him go. If he's a competitor he'll go to a team with a chance to beat GSW. We'll see.

Cupcake is not a thing. It's just not. The degree to which people try and shoehorn inane colloquialisms into the established lexicon sure is beyond cringe-worthy, though; like a bad comedian bombing and everyone in the room knowing it.

[tundraknight]

I heard the Cavs are interested in Bogut.

[DowJones]

He will surely sign back with GS. Pretty much wraps up the title for them.


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Title was wrapped up the moment Durant jumped on the bandwagon.

[linkz1993]

If hes a cupcake he'll go the GSW the team that let him go. If he's a competitor he'll go to a team with a chance to beat GSW. We'll see.

Cupcake is not a thing. It's just not. The degree to which people try and shoehorn inane colloquialisms into the established lexicon sure is beyond cringe-worthy, though; like a bad comedian bombing and everyone in the room knowing it.

And u dont think he wants revenge against Cleveland ?

[lakerhater]

I can't comment on Bogut from this year.
Bogut last year and previous years is more impactful than Zaza by quite a large margin... but they are different players.
I'd say the primary differences are...
Bogut can finish lobs, Zaza can't.
Bogut is a shot blocker, Zaza isn't.
Zaza can make his free throws, Bogut can't.
Zaza can make an open jump shot, Bogut can't.
Bogut is elite defenisvely, Zaza is adequate.

If Bogut is the same Bogut i remember, i have a hard time finding a weakness on the club if he went back to the Warriors. I'm guessing though, that if he were the Bogut i remember, another team would have offerred Dallas / Philly SOMETHING of value to get him.
Maybe he's more fragile (if that's possible) or has lost a step.

Although i don't expect him to come back to the Warriors, i find it amusing how CLE fans were overjoyed with word that he would be released, and then distraught with the news that it was possible for him to return to the Warriors. Its the little things in life.

Only thing I can add is unless Bogut has cleaned up his tendency to set illegal screens I give Zaza the edge in that category and I'll call them even in the passing category.

Bogut has often been referred to as one of the best passing big men in the NBA. Zaza is nowhere near Bogut level in passing ability.

I've seen enough of both and I think you're underrating Zaza here, he fits really well into GSW's scheme and is as good a passer within that system as Bogut. They're both crafty vet passers.

[lakerhater]

One last note on the Bogut vs Zaza comparison is even though I don't know how he does it due to having almost sloth like speed Zaza somehow regularly beats opposing centers down the floor in quick offensive transitions better then Bogut ever did. This puts pressure on opposing D's to guard the hoop rather then the 3 point line.

[DK-All Day]

When Bogut signs for the Warriors, Golden State practically traded Harrison Barnes for Kevin Durant. WTF!

[wfiles]

When Bogut signs for the Warriors, Golden State practically traded Harrison Barnes for Kevin Durant. WTF!

Wrong. The Warriors also lost Festus Ezeli, Mo Speights, and Leandro Barbosa.

[linkz1993]

When Bogut signs for the Warriors, Golden State practically traded Harrison Barnes for Kevin Durant. WTF!

Wrong. The Warriors also lost Festus Ezeli, Mo Speights, and Leandro Barbosa.

Javale replaced Fetus ( Injured all season ) , David west ( Recently been out) replaced Mo , and Ian clark just stepped in for barbosa

[wfiles]

When Bogut signs for the Warriors, Golden State practically traded Harrison Barnes for Kevin Durant. WTF!

Wrong. The Warriors also lost Festus Ezeli, Mo Speights, and Leandro Barbosa.

Javale replaced Fetus ( Injured all season ) , David west ( Recently been out) replaced Mo , and Ian clark just stepped in for barbosa

That's not the point. DK-All Day was wrong because the Warriors did lose more players.

[mvpshaq32]

I doubt he wants to go back anyways

I'm not sure where Bogut stands on this. HB though definitely felt some type of way about us letting him go but he's proving himself in Dallas that he couldn't have done with the Warriors.

[nurseryc]

One last note on the Bogut vs Zaza comparison is even though I don't know how he does it due to having almost sloth like speed Zaza somehow regularly beats opposing centers down the floor in quick offensive transitions better then Bogut ever did. This puts pressure on opposing D's to guard the hoop rather then the 3 point line.

Pre injury Bogut on the FTD Bucks season was actually deceptively quick and one hell of a player on the way to being something really really special. His deceptive quickness was was one of the reasons he became a perennial mention in the talks of the top defensive players for a few seasons. One season he actually arguablly should have one DPOY. That version of Bogut pre injury had some nice offensive moves and arsennenal. No offense to Zaza but Bogut would kill him in that form.

[notagenius]

Would love to see him back in GS, just to see how heated people will get

[phraoh]

I do not think Marks is right....Cavs couldn't resign Varejo until a year past from when they traded him...what's the difference? Anyways, I doubt he would go back to a team that traded him.

[Tigersrule]

From what I heard, he was mad with how GSW got rid of him isnt that right lol? And also GSW is not looking for centers, they are said to be looking for guards, im guessing to replace Briante Webber. They should go after Matt Barnes.

[wfiles]

I do not think Marks is right....Cavs couldn't resign Varejo until a year past from when they traded him...what's the difference? Anyways, I doubt he would go back to a team that traded him.

Did you even read what's posted in the OP?

Also Woj and Marc Stein already confirmed that Bogut can be signed by the Warriors.