Phoenex GM Ryan McDonough gets revenge on Danny Ainge for the Isaiah trade, through the draft

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Re: Phoenex GM Ryan McDonough gets revenge on Danny Ainge for the Isaiah trade, through the draft 

Post#61 » by OldCeltics » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:24 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:25 years ago Ainge left John Paxton 15 feet open.

Yesterday Ainge left Josh Jackson 15 minutes open.

I hope they both end up with championships on the end of it.


He had Tatum #1, man. If you want to convince yourself that your GM manufactured this, knock yourself out. Just know that your lying to yourself.


If he had Tatum #1 then like we said before, this is a non story and is only being brought up by salty celtics fans because they wanted Jackson whether they want to admit it or not.


A guy that gets most of his points off lobs, and dunks, shooting 52% ft, and 42% on jump shots. No thanks. I will take Tatum, a guy that can create his own shot.
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Post#62 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:24 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
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Mulhollanddrive wrote:25 years ago Ainge left John Paxton 15 feet open.

Yesterday Ainge left Josh Jackson 15 minutes open.

I hope they both end up with championships on the end of it.


He had Tatum #1, man. If you want to convince yourself that your GM manufactured this, knock yourself out. Just know that your lying to yourself.


If he had Tatum #1 then like we said before, this is a non story and is only being brought up by salty celtics fans because they wanted Jackson whether they want to admit it or not.


If Ainge wanted Jackson he would of taken him. Period. Not working out is not a deal breaker for him

Ainge don't give a **** about anything.

Kinda proved that by trading the first overall pick
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Post#63 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:24 am

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Tatum - 34% 3pt
Jackson - 38% 3pt

And now you an bring up the FT %


Meh

Jackson can't shoot.

Jackson 54.9% from 2
Tatum 50.4% from 2

The only advantage Tatum has over Jackson is FT's.


And shooting jump shots.

Jackson was amazing at shooting at the rim on a high volume. It biases his %'s upward in this case while not giving a true representation of his ability as a shooter.
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Post#64 » by Ben-N1ce » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:26 am

Congrats to the Suns on Josh Jackson but the IT trade has helped the Celtics win more games and go farther than their 20 year old core will in the next 3-5 years.
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Post#65 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:28 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
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Mulhollanddrive wrote:25 years ago Ainge left John Paxton 15 feet open.

Yesterday Ainge left Josh Jackson 15 minutes open.

I hope they both end up with championships on the end of it.


He had Tatum #1, man. If you want to convince yourself that your GM manufactured this, knock yourself out. Just know that your lying to yourself.


If he had Tatum #1 then like we said before, this is a non story and is only being brought up by salty celtics fans because they wanted Jackson whether they want to admit it or not.


I see it as fan, not fans.

This guy is salty cuz he clearly wanted Jackson. I could not give less of a **** because I wanted Tatum. No move will ever be unanimously loved by the fans.

I think Ainge is wrong for preferring Tatum to Fultz, but for whatever reason, he obviously did.
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Post#66 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:29 am

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DaleyBlind wrote:
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He had Tatum #1, man. If you want to convince yourself that your GM manufactured this, knock yourself out. Just know that your lying to yourself.


If he had Tatum #1 then like we said before, this is a non story and is only being brought up by salty celtics fans because they wanted Jackson whether they want to admit it or not.


If Ainge wanted Jackson he would of taken him. Period. Not working out is not a deal breaker for him

Ainge don't give a **** about anything.

Kinda proved that by trading the first overall pick


Hard to keep track, you got 1 boston fan saying you dont draft guys that dont workout for you and your saying the opposite.

I agree with you that if he wanted Jackson he would taken him, which is why this is a non story
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Post#67 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:30 am

I don't think arguing about who is a better shooter between Tatum and Jackson makes sense, because, having been on the Suns forum leading up to the draft, 99% of Suns fans would readily say Tatum is a better shooter. So I'd probably ignore any Suns fan who says otherwise.
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Post#68 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:31 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Meh

Jackson can't shoot.

Jackson 54.9% from 2
Tatum 50.4% from 2

The only advantage Tatum has over Jackson is FT's.


And shooting jump shots.

Jackson was amazing at shooting at the rim on a high volume. It biases his %'s upward in this case while not giving a true representation of his ability as a shooter.

Well the stats say he is better 3pt shooter
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Post#69 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:31 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
If he had Tatum #1 then like we said before, this is a non story and is only being brought up by salty celtics fans because they wanted Jackson whether they want to admit it or not.


If Ainge wanted Jackson he would of taken him. Period. Not working out is not a deal breaker for him

Ainge don't give a **** about anything.

Kinda proved that by trading the first overall pick


Hard to keep track, you got 1 boston fan saying you dont draft guys that dont workout for you and your saying the opposite.

I agree with you that if he wanted Jackson he would taken him, which is why this is a non story


Danny literally on record saying he's drafted guys who haven't worked out for him before.

It's not an argument nor a debate.

I refuse to.believe Ainge plan was to trade out of 1 and grab Jackson and he didn't do so because he couldn't see him in a worm out, all the while saying he's watched everyone at the top of the draft for 5 years.

Danny got the guy he wanted. Period.
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Post#70 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:32 am

bwgood77 wrote:I don't think arguing about who is a better shooter between Tatum and Jackson makes sense, because, having been on the Suns forum leading up to the draft, 99% of Suns fans would readily say Tatum is a better shooter. So I'd probably ignore any Suns fan who says otherwise.


Tatum's shot looks better, numbers say Jackson is the better 3pt shooter though.
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Post#71 » by The_Hater » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:33 am

The Corey's wrote:Explain revenge.

We still have Thomas.

And we have Tatum and they are stuck with the guy who can't shoot


If the Celtics drafted Jackson instead of Tatum, there's no doubt thst you'd be telling us how Tatum can only score while Jackson does it all.....
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Post#72 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:34 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Jackson 54.9% from 2
Tatum 50.4% from 2

The only advantage Tatum has over Jackson is FT's.


And shooting jump shots.

Jackson was amazing at shooting at the rim on a high volume. It biases his %'s upward in this case while not giving a true representation of his ability as a shooter.

Well the stats say he is better 3pt shooter


And the predictive analytics say that Tatum will be a much better shooter at the next level.

This is really a foolish argument. There are many reasons to argue why you like Jackson better than Tatum. Shooting isn't one of them.
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Post#73 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:34 am

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DaleyBlind wrote:
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If Ainge wanted Jackson he would of taken him. Period. Not working out is not a deal breaker for him

Ainge don't give a **** about anything.

Kinda proved that by trading the first overall pick


Hard to keep track, you got 1 boston fan saying you dont draft guys that dont workout for you and your saying the opposite.

I agree with you that if he wanted Jackson he would taken him, which is why this is a non story


Danny literally on record saying he's drafted guys who haven't worked out for him before.

It's not an argument nor a debate.

I refuse to.believe Ainge plan was to trade out of 1 and grab Jackson and he didn't do so because he couldn't see him in a worm out, all the while saying he's watched everyone at the top of the draft for 5 years.

Danny got the guy he wanted. Period.


So we can all agree, this is a complete non story then. Great
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Post#74 » by The_Hater » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:34 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I don't think arguing about who is a better shooter between Tatum and Jackson makes sense, because, having been on the Suns forum leading up to the draft, 99% of Suns fans would readily say Tatum is a better shooter. So I'd probably ignore any Suns fan who says otherwise.


Tatum's shot looks better, numbers say Jackson is the better 3pt shooter though.


Jackson had a really, really bad percentage on shots off the dribble last season. Under 20% I believe.
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Post#75 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:35 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I don't think arguing about who is a better shooter between Tatum and Jackson makes sense, because, having been on the Suns forum leading up to the draft, 99% of Suns fans would readily say Tatum is a better shooter. So I'd probably ignore any Suns fan who says otherwise.


Tatum's shot looks better, numbers say Jackson is the better 3pt shooter though.


Yeah, we know the percentages you posted. We're not stupid. But stop derailing this thread with this crap because it's pointless and irritating.
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Post#76 » by DirtyDez » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:35 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:Congrats to the Suns on Josh Jackson but the IT trade has helped the Celtics win more games and go farther than their 20 year old core will in the next 3-5 years.


I agree but the Suns probably barely make the playoffs if they keep IT and cost themselves Devin Booker. This Suns team may do nothing next year but the ceiling looks to be higher than it did with IT two years ago (eventually).
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Post#77 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:36 am

DaleyBlind wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
Tatum - 34% 3pt
Jackson - 38% 3pt

And now you an bring up the FT %


Meh

Jackson can't shoot.


Tatum is an ISO Chucker who cant shoot 3's or guard NBA SF's.

Meh - easy game to play


This is a stupid game to play that prob is going to end with some comment about Jackson threatening women. Who care's, all these arguements on who drafted the best player are so pathetic. These kids, especially now that everyone is a one and done never exactly pan out as predicted unless you're drafting Duncan or Lebron. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith Jr or Isaac ended up he two best of the draft class. People should at least hold up on the trash talk until we see these kid play some regular season games, because despite what we want to believe, our judgement isn't as good as the GM making decisions(unless you're Billy King). I will also say with most of these kids being freshman coming out maturity and personality are more important than ever.
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Post#78 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:36 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
And shooting jump shots.

Jackson was amazing at shooting at the rim on a high volume. It biases his %'s upward in this case while not giving a true representation of his ability as a shooter.

Well the stats say he is better 3pt shooter


And the predictive analytics say that Tatum will be a much better shooter at the next level.

This is really a foolish argument. There are many reasons to argue why you like Jackson better than Tatum. Shooting isn't one of them.


Those analytics also said Booker would be an elite shooter, hasnt turned out that way yet.
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Post#79 » by The Corey's » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:37 am

The_Hater wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Explain revenge.

We still have Thomas.

And we have Tatum and they are stuck with the guy who can't shoot


If the Celtics drafted Jackson instead of Tatum, there's no doubt thst you'd be telling us how Tatum can only score while Jackson does it all.....


Since you'renap opinionated and sure of this.

Use the feature that allows you to search my post.

In fact. Let me point You To the right thread.

2017 draft thread number 2 and watch my explosion of anger towards danny that directly led to my current signature. When it appeared that he traded fultz for Jackson. Lost my mind

No need for Jackson when we already got brown who can't shoot.
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Post#80 » by DaleyBlind » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:37 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:
DaleyBlind wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Meh

Jackson can't shoot.


Tatum is an ISO Chucker who cant shoot 3's or guard NBA SF's.

Meh - easy game to play


This is a stupid game to play that prob is going to end with some comment about Jackson threatening women. Who care's, all these arguements on who drafted the best player are so pathetic. These kids, especially now that everyone is a one and done never exactly pan out as predicted unless you're drafting Duncan or Lebron. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith Jr or Isaac ended up he two best of the draft class. People should at least hold up on the trash talk until we see these kid play some regular season games, because despite what we want to believe, our judgement isn't as good as the GM making decisions(unless you're Billy King). I will also say with most of these kids being freshman coming out maturity and personality are more important than ever.


Well said.

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