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Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 1:05 am
by Quentin
AssistRubio wrote:His max contract hasn't even started yet. It's amazing how many of you don't even realize that.
See, that's what Wiggins is doing. He's playing to his pay level. Why try hard when he's not getting paid yet?
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 1:12 am
by vxmike
Wolves better hope Butler re-signs in 1.5 years or they'll miss the playoffs another ten years.
Wiggins and Towns aren't winning anything. Thibs is on Doc Rivers level as a GM thus far for giving him a max deal a year before RFA.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 1:54 am
by Splashin
vxmike wrote:Wolves better hope Butler re-signs in 1.5 years or they'll miss the playoffs another ten years.
Wiggins and Towns aren't winning anything. Thibs is on Doc Rivers level as a GM thus far for giving him a max deal a year before RFA.
You're probably right. Butler is the Timberwolves now, they'll likely find a way to keep him though. He seems pretty happy there
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 1:56 am
by fouronesix22
Isnt this year 1 of his max deal? I think its better to see what he does in year 2 and 3 but so far I dont think it is.
But it was a huge mistake giving him that contract.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 1:59 am
by kennydorglas
Wiggins is the most frustrating player to watch in the NBA. Hands down.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 2:00 am
by kennydorglas
fouronesix22 wrote:Isnt this year 1 of his max deal? I think its better to see what he does in year 2 and 3 but so far I dont think it is.
But it was a huge mistake giving him that contract.
Nah. It'll start next year.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 2:02 am
by fouronesix22
kennydorglas wrote:fouronesix22 wrote:Isnt this year 1 of his max deal? I think its better to see what he does in year 2 and 3 but so far I dont think it is.
But it was a huge mistake giving him that contract.
Nah. It'll start next year.
really? oh boy... good luck with that wolves fans
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 2:09 am
by THE J0KER
Here is the only way I see right now for a team to money back from Wiggins max deal:
step 1 - trade Wiggins to Denver
step 2 - remove Nuggets from Denver to Vancouver
With Canadian Murray-Wiggins-Lyles trio
Vancouver Nuggets would occupy a rich Canadian market by storm!
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 2:46 am
by johanliebert
hes a young athletic wing playing his role on that roster. why the hate?
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 2:48 am
by johanliebert
Reeko wrote:I don't follow Wiggins or Minnesota much, but one thing about him vs DeMar is that DeMar has been labeled as one of the hardest working players in the league a true gym rat. I have never heard such things said about Wiggins. Another thing to take into consideration is he was never brought along by any good vets aside from an old KG, DeMar had Bosh in his rookie year but that aside DeMar is a driven player regardless. Wiggins may be the type who needs his teammates to push him, it is quite possible he would have thrived under LeBron in Cleveland had he not been traded.
wiggins is already better than demar was at 22.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 4:32 am
by johnx
welcome to the weekly Wiggins bashing thread
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 5:08 am
by AssistRubio
Fantastic game by Andrew tonight. His shot is still off but defensively he is really start to get it. He's going to be just fine.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 5:34 am
by GreatWhiteStiff
Some of these bad contract guys were actually good players before they signed their deals. Wiggins not so much. To a lot of stans resigning him was an "obvious" decision though.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 5:57 am
by Klomp
vxmike wrote:Wolves better hope Butler re-signs in 1.5 years or they'll miss the playoffs another ten years.
Wiggins and Towns aren't winning anything. Thibs is on Doc Rivers level as a GM thus far for giving him a max deal a year before RFA.
Wait, so first you say they better hope a guy Thibs brought in stays around, followed by saying Thibs is a horrible GM? Makes sense....
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 5:58 am
by vxmike
Klomp wrote:vxmike wrote:Wolves better hope Butler re-signs in 1.5 years or they'll miss the playoffs another ten years.
Wiggins and Towns aren't winning anything. Thibs is on Doc Rivers level as a GM thus far for giving him a max deal a year before RFA.
Wait, so first you say they better hope a guy Thibs brought in stays around, followed by saying Thibs is a horrible GM? Makes sense....
Butler was a good trade.
Every other move especially FA sucked. Wolves went from a great cap situation to cap hell overnight.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 6:06 am
by Klomp
It's not Andrew Wiggins. Not even close.
It's someone who is 1.5 seasons into his 4/$94M contract and has played in 60 of a possible 121 games, averaging 20 mpg and 7 ppg.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 6:06 am
by Klomp
vxmike wrote:Every other move especially FA sucked. Wolves went from a great cap situation to cap hell overnight.
Cap hell? Not even close.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:07 am
by -Blitz-
he reminds me of rudy gay when he first got his max contract with the grizzles. An athletic inefficient chucker that hits clutch shots but isnt really a big diff maker because of his shot selection.
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 8:08 am
by TooBad
THE J0KER wrote:Here is the only way I see right now for a team to money back from Wiggins max deal:
step 1 - trade Wiggins to Denver
step 2 - remove Nuggets from Denver to Vancouver
With Canadian Murray-Wiggins-Lyles trio
Vancouver Nuggets would occupy a rich Canadian market by storm!
Why are you trying to relocate your team? Vancouver should get a team but there are worse fan bases out there to take it from (Memphis).
Re: Andrew Wiggins, worst max player ever?
Posted: Sun Jan 7, 2018 8:23 am
by TMU
Duke4life831 wrote:Concernedcad wrote:Feel bad for Wiggins being stuck on that team. Hope he gets out of Minnesota soon.
Huh? He's stuck on a team that gave him 150 mil, gave him the ultimate green light for his first 3 years even though for 2 of those years his teammate was the far superior player. Now they add Butler and now Wiggins is going to make the playoffs despite the fact he still leads the team in FGAs.
I can't really imagine a better scenario for a young guy that wants to be the man than the one Wiggins has been put into to start his career.
Couldn't have said any better. The guy has the best setup. It beats me how the guy has 2 major cushions in Towns and Butler, but I personally haven't seen much improvement in his game at all. His defense is still subpar and he has very questionable shot selection.