Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination?

[Optms]

They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science


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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.

No beaches. It's hot. Didn't I mention no beaches?

[MartyConlonJr]

The best points mentioned were the Suns staff which seem to work miracles in keeping players healthy, which may be related to the warm weather over winter months as it is easier to warm up, as well as motivate one to go to the gym etc.

This is perfect for an older player like LeBron who is looking at longevity as the key to being GOAT.

As Lebron gets older he would likely shift full time to PF, and need more shooters around him, and obviously a better team than Phoenix can offer.

Booker is useful. Jackson is probably not going to suit the timeframe. You could move him for a player more like Josh Richardson, maybe lower ceiling but more ready and able to shoot. Maybe Doncic would also be a better pick for Lebron not sure, Ayton may take longer. You would need to rejig that roster and make it more win now for Lebron

[Guest202]

They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science


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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.

How is Phoenix wonderful? Have you been?

Umm, it's one of the fastest growing metros in the US.

[NBAFan93]

Cause their team is awful and has been for years - until they stop tanking for a least a full season, no way I’d consider signing w/ them if I was a FA. Remember what happened to Eric Bledsoe?

[Papi_swav]

I always wanted to take a vacation trip to Arizona for like a week. I don't know what's out there besides desert and heat.

You can't be serious. Ever hear of the Grand freaking Canyon?

Yea I know about that, but what else is there?

[Papi_swav]

I always wanted to take a vacation trip to Arizona for like a week. I don't know what's out there besides desert and heat.

I highly recommended it! So much to see. The Phoenix area is real fun especially if you stay in Scottsdale, or Tempe. Old town Scottsdale and downtown Scottsdale is awesome for day and nightlife. So much hiking and walking trails. If you drive 2 hours north you can see Sedona which is beautiful red rock country, and flagstaff which is in the forest. Then there's the Grand Canyon

Dope, it's been on my bucket list for a little while now, might have to wait to the fall or early next spring to beat the heat .

[Guest202]

I always wanted to take a vacation trip to Arizona for like a week. I don't know what's out there besides desert and heat.

You can't be serious. Ever hear of the Grand freaking Canyon?

Yea I know about that, but what else is there?

A booming economy, lots of rich retired boomers, lots of rich California transplants, lots of smart college grads moving to Sun Belt for better weather and hot economy, quite a few corporate HQs.

[Cactus Jack]

I always wanted to take a vacation trip to Arizona for like a week. I don't know what's out there besides desert and heat.

You can't be serious. Ever hear of the Grand freaking Canyon?

Yea I know about that, but what else is there?

Arizona is unique because you can drive 2 Hours from Phoenix (Desert) and be in snow country (Flagstaff). Literally. Also, check out Sedona. It's North of Phoenix & has amazing outdoor stuff to do. If your a person who's into Hiking & exploring, Arizona would be the place for you. It has practically everything but coastline & beaches.

[nedleeds]

Because they have **** up their draft so badly they have basically no compelling young stars to play with. Perhaps if they draft Doncic this year and don't screw it up with Ayton they can salvage things.

2012 - Kendall Marshall #13 ... out of the league
2013 - Alex Len at **** #5 ... renounced and incinerated as though they never had a pick
2014 - TJ Warren at #14 ... rotation wing who shoots 22% from 3 after his 4th year in the league
2015 - Devin Booker at at #13 ... a good pick and maybe the best reason to come play here. If he had a good PG or creator you'd think he could be a more positive player and less of a chucker. Doesn't play defense, but not for lack of size or athleticism.
2016 - Dragan Bender at #4 and threw Bogdan, Skal and Papa-G to move up and take Chriss. Chriss is the dumbest knucklehead I've ever seen in team sports history. A Morriss twin with none of their basketball skills. Bender is a least not mentally impaired, but hasn't shown a ton he's barely 21 though. Again nothing any free agent is going to consider an asset.
2017 - Josh Jackson at #4 ... another medium size wing who can't hit water with an oar. Unplayable offensive player whose defense amounted to a -1.2 DPM. His form is wretched and broken, barring a massive overhaul he'll never be an average shooter. Sign me up to throw passes to that guy in the corner.

Constantly being in the lottery and never having an all star come from it is why.

And the knicks are good.

Cracks me up.

TJ Warren is a good scorer and has improved
Josh Jackson had a good rookie season, and got better every game (He would be the #2 on the knicks behind Porzingis)
Booker - Stud!

Where did I mention the Knicks being good? They are awful and should be tanking. Unfortunately it's hard to tank with a healthy KP. The Suns obviously don't have that problem since nobody on their roster is remotely as good. The ACL came too late for the Knicks to catch the Suns massive tank.

[Wilber85]

I always wanted to take a vacation trip to Arizona for like a week. I don't know what's out there besides desert and heat.

You can't be serious. Ever hear of the Grand freaking Canyon?

Yea I know about that, but what else is there?

Desert (Dirt bikes, Four Wheeling), Lakes, Float the river, Casinos, Fun Night life, Good places to eat, hiking, mountains, beautiful women

Also outside of phoenix

Sedona, Hiking, Red Rocks, Flagstaff, skiing, grand canyon, havasupai falls, antelope canyon, cliff jumping, beaver falls, Jerome Ghost Town, Tombstone, Sand Dunes out in Yuma, Lake Havasu, colorado river

Are you from Brooklyn or NYC? TBH all you can do there is Eat, Sporting events, go out at night, and site see the architecture.

[Coachcavplaya23]

They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science


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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.

I didn’t really mean Phoenix was a bad spot. But if it’s not LA or New York I don’t see why a star would want to sign with such a **** team with a less than ideal marketplace to build their brand


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It is not like stars are signing with those teams anyways. You can build your brand from anywhere. Big markets are not needed anymore. They can reach millions of people in one tweet.

[Plutonashfan]

Cheap owner.

[Young gun 6]

Not yet. Need to get some wins on the board but in terms of talent and a new coach now I’d say we would be above the following teams in terms of future outlook for a young to medium aged player looking for the max (in no order) :

Orlando
Atlanta
Brooklyn
Sacramento
Detroit
New York
Charlotte
Miami
Chicago
Dallas
Memphis
Clippers

And arguably
Lakers

But that also leaves about 15-20 other teams who look more appealing based on their young talent.

Also have a heap of picks we could trade (16 + 31 + Milwaukee 1st rounder + Miami 2021 unprotected) for a good player or players to complete the roster after signing a max player.

[OptionZero]

73 posts of people arguing about living in Arizona when the real answer is so ****' obvious:

Robert Sarver

[Pantsman]

Because they are terrible and their organization is a mess.

[Scalabrine]

They're terrible defensively and don't have a core which has proven they can come close to challenging for a playoff spot.

Maybe in a year if Ayton is the real deal they'll be able to garner interest but as is... Why would a max free agent choose Phoenix?

They are filled with young, athletic, shooters and with Ayton and Booker they have two young - future star level players. It's a perfect situation for an existing All-Star alpha to step in and take them to the next level.

I'd take their core over the core of the Lakers for example. Especially as far as complimentary players go.

[ishoy123]

By renouncing the rights to Alex Len and Elfrid Payton and not picking up the option of Alan Williams and then getting rid of one of Dudley, Chandler or Knight by either stretching or trading (perhaps by attaching picks 16 or 31) the Suns create enough space for a max contract in free agency and have a roster of:

Ayton/Chandler/Bender
James/Chriss/Bender
Warren/Jackson
Jackson/Booker/Daniels
Booker/Knight/Ullis

This depth chart assumes they move Dudley and draft Ayton. Does not include picks 16 and 31 or any other signings they could make with the MLE and exceptions.

This roster is tailor-made for a LeBron led team. Inside presence who can control the paint, run the floor, and shoot. An athletic young, do it all, lights out shooter and future all-star (Booker) and then shooters/slashers everywhere else.

When you factor in the history of success with the Phoenix medical staff, this seems like a team that can let LeBron age gracefully, while still having an extremely young core to mold and still compete into his twilight years.

For all we hear about him leaving Cleveland, and the amount of hype young/unproven teams like the Sixers and Lakers get as destinations, the Suns seem like a way better fit in terms of skill set of the existing players. Im surprised we don't hear/read more about them as an option...

Realized this is a joke thread when you said the Sixers are hyped young/unproven when comparing them to the Suns

[Ckay]

You mean the Phoenix Mercury?

[NBAFan93]

Arizona has beautiful weather most of the year - it gets unbearably hot during the summer months, but 1. that wouldn’t matter cause it’s the offseason, and 2. that’s also true about most warm weather cities (like Florida can be unbearably hot in July/August too). Also, like others have said, it has a really low cost of living for how nice the weather is most of the year (can’t say that about LA, SF).

The problem is not the location (for those who think players care about that), it’s the team itself. They have had a losing culture for so many years that I’d want to see them actually win some games before I’d even think about signing there - no matter what their talent looked like or how much they paid me.

[Karate Diop]

They're terrible defensively and don't have a core which has proven they can come close to challenging for a playoff spot.

Maybe in a year if Ayton is the real deal they'll be able to garner interest but as is... Why would a max free agent choose Phoenix?

They are filled with young, athletic, shooters and with Ayton and Booker they have two young - future star level players. It's a perfect situation for an existing All-Star alpha to step in and take them to the next level.

I'd take their core over the core of the Lakers for example. Especially as far as complimentary players go.

They're beyond terrible defensively that's going to scare legitimate stars away.