2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread

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Post#61 » by sfernald » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:47 pm

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Seeing this a lot, are there videos of him playing again? Even workout videos are interesting, he really had limited mobility in his movement at Duke. Is he playing in SL?


Really like both guys (Giles and Bagley) - but if SAC values Giles this high, the Bagley selection seems a bit suspect at no2 :-?


That has been a question around Sac. The answer we are getting is they have two very different games. Giles reportedly is more of a power player who will play center and a bit longer with a 7’ 3” wingspan. He has huge hands and rebounds well and passes very well with a great feel for the game. Those characteristics are what draws the Chris Weber comparisons. He also sets a good screen.

Unlike last year, where we were near the league bottom on 3 point attempts, I expect more paint touches and kick outs to our 3 point shooters: Hield, Bogdanovich, Hezonja/McDermott. Expect the ball to go through Harry’s hands often. I would guess we see many ball screens with he and Bogdan. Especially if Fox has improved shooting off the ball.

The Kings see Bagley as more a perimeter player who will play off the ball. The question will be can he develop his outside shot and play perimeter defense. In year 1, I expect offensively he will get a lot of backside screens and be freed up to crash the offensive glass. Again depending on Foxes decision making he will likely be in pick and rolls with Fox.



Can’t believe I’m saying this but I really like Sacramento’s and Phoenix’s rosters.. Great young talent and potential. Will be really fun to watch these two teams develop. This may be the last lottery year for both teams...
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Re: 2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread 

Post#62 » by Sactowndog » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:56 pm

sfernald wrote:
Sactowndog wrote:
SKR wrote:
Really like both guys (Giles and Bagley) - but if SAC values Giles this high, the Bagley selection seems a bit suspect at no2 :-?


That has been a question around Sac. The answer we are getting is they have two very different games. Giles reportedly is more of a power player who will play center and a bit longer with a 7’ 3” wingspan. He has huge hands and rebounds well and passes very well with a great feel for the game. Those characteristics are what draws the Chris Weber comparisons. He also sets a good screen.

Unlike last year, where we were near the league bottom on 3 point attempts, I expect more paint touches and kick outs to our 3 point shooters: Hield, Bogdanovich, Hezonja/McDermott. Expect the ball to go through Harry’s hands often. I would guess we see many ball screens with he and Bogdan. Especially if Fox has improved shooting off the ball.

The Kings see Bagley as more a perimeter player who will play off the ball. The question will be can he develop his outside shot and play perimeter defense. In year 1, I expect offensively he will get a lot of backside screens and be freed up to crash the offensive glass. Again depending on Foxes decision making he will likely be in pick and rolls with Fox.



Can’t believe I’m saying this but I really like Sacramento’s and Phoenix’s rosters.. Great young talent and potential. Will be really fun to watch these two teams develop. This may be the last lottery year for both teams...


If Giles is as advertised, Bagley develops a shot and Fox learns to pass we could be very good.
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Post#63 » by OkcSinceSGA » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:04 pm

Lord Doncic, Bamsanity or Goofy Trae.
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Post#64 » by pohani komarac » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:11 pm

Wilber85 wrote:Ayton will avg 15/11 as a rookie

Doncic will avg 12/4/3

Bagley 14/9


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Post#65 » by NickAnderson » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:58 pm

This class should be fun to watch and there really isn’t a clear cut ROY in the beginning of the year


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Post#66 » by fendilim » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:31 am

Trae. I’d love Bamba to win but highly impossible with style of play.
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Post#67 » by Noctilux » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:56 pm

My sleeper is Mo Wagner of the Spurs :wink:
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Post#68 » by Bakomagic » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:16 pm

When it comes to the Bigs, it will be important to remember that they tend to be ignored offensively in Summer League.

More likely that the ball dominate guards and wings will shine offensively.

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Post#69 » by Havlicek17 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:58 pm

Homerclease wrote:Ben Simmons


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Post#70 » by Nuggets_Talk » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:42 pm

MPJ 22/8/5

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Nuggets_Talk wrote:MPJ 22/8/5



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Post#72 » by Stanford » Sun Jul 1, 2018 3:02 pm

Let's get this out the way early: who should be disqualified from the ROTY race and for what stupid reason? I'm going to say Doncic because he's been playing for professional coaches for years. It gives him an unfair advantage. Also Mikal Bridges because he's old af.
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Post#73 » by mabundo_nagumbe » Sun Jul 1, 2018 6:47 pm

Doncic and it's not even close
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Post#74 » by BladeKor » Mon Jul 2, 2018 1:35 am

mabundo_nagumbe wrote:Doncic and it's not even close


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Post#75 » by 8on » Mon Jul 2, 2018 2:19 am

I would say probably Ayton. On offense, he looks ridiculous. What 7 footer has ever hit jumpers in your face with that kind of efficiency?
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Post#76 » by Nuggets_Talk » Mon Jul 2, 2018 3:01 am

dantley4prez wrote:I would say probably Ayton. On offense, he looks ridiculous. What 7 footer has ever hit jumpers in your face with that kind of efficiency?


You picked Ayton to win ROY?

I’m shocked!!
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Post#77 » by sfernald » Mon Jul 2, 2018 3:01 am

I’m gonna say that guy who Celtics picked who missed his draft call and then missed his plane to summer league. That dude’s just not too sharp.
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Post#78 » by 8on » Mon Jul 2, 2018 3:36 am

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dantley4prez wrote:I would say probably Ayton. On offense, he looks ridiculous. What 7 footer has ever hit jumpers in your face with that kind of efficiency?


You picked Ayton to win ROY?

I’m shocked!!


i saw a less developed version a couple years ago in Summer League. his name was Kristaps Porzingis.

but we'll see i guess.
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Post#79 » by Nuggets_Talk » Mon Jul 2, 2018 4:07 am

dantley4prez wrote:
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dantley4prez wrote:I would say probably Ayton. On offense, he looks ridiculous. What 7 footer has ever hit jumpers in your face with that kind of efficiency?


You picked Ayton to win ROY?

I’m shocked!!


i saw a less developed version a couple years ago in Summer League. his name was Kristaps Porzingis.

but we'll see i guess.


what does that even mean? ayton is the next porzingis...but better?
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Post#80 » by 8on » Mon Jul 2, 2018 4:18 am

Nuggets_Talk wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:
Nuggets_Talk wrote:
You picked Ayton to win ROY?

I’m shocked!!


i saw a less developed version a couple years ago in Summer League. his name was Kristaps Porzingis.

but we'll see i guess.


what does that even mean? ayton is the next porzingis...but better?


what it means is that folks heavily doubted KP. I watched him in summer league, and I saw what most people would see months later. specifically, KP was a 7’2” unicorn who could knock down shots. that’s the most impressive thing I saw. he could rebound and play defense. it was a rare combination that no one expected him to be able to do right away.

I predict a similar outcome for Ayton, but with better and more developed skills

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