RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2018-19

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RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2018-19

Poll ended at Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:36 am

DeMar DeRozan (SAS)
8
6%
DeMarcus Cousins (GSW)
12
9%
LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS)
42
30%
Donovan Mitchell (UTA)
40
29%
Kemba Walker (CHA)
6
4%
Jrue Holiday (NOP)
8
6%
Blake Griffin (DET)
4
3%
Gordon Hayward (BOS)
12
9%
Kevin Love (CLE)
4
3%
Devin Booker (PHX)
4
3%
 
Total votes: 140

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2018-19 

Post#61 » by iggymcfrack » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:30 am

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Mitchell's FT% in 1 year is 3-4% better than Wade's career average...not a very compelling fact. His 3 PT% is notably higher than Wade's. I will give you that. But again, sort of an unfair comparison given that Wade's era did not focus on 3 PT shooting.

The bottom line is, to say you "had to go to JORDAN to find a complimentary SG comparison for Mitchell"? Why?? No chance...there are many shooting guards he still needs to get close to before you start comparing him to MJ.


Wade’s era? You mean like 5 years ago? He was probably like one of 2 starting shooting guards in the entire league who didn’t have a reliable 3-pointer in his arsenal. Also, on long 2s (16+ feet), Mitchell shot 44.5% last year. Wade for his career is 38.7%. Never shot as high as Mitchell one season in his career. It’s just verifiably false to say Wade was ever as good of a shooter as Mitchell.


So you mean outside shooter?

You're basing this all on one ONE season of Mitchell, for the record.

Wade's prime ended around 2012. And he entered the league in 2003. So I'm pointing out the fact that during his entire upbringing and college years, the 3 point shot was not so heavily emphasized.

Either way, if you look at the two players as a whole, prime Wade is FAR superior to rookie year Mitchell. Talk to me when Mitchell puts up 30 PPG, 7.5 ast, 5 rebs, 2.2 stls, 1.3 blks on good efficiency.

I'm not even a big Wade fan but it's insulting to compare rookie Mitchell to prime Wade.


I certainly didn’t say that Mitchell was better than prime Wade at anything but shooting.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2018-19 

Post#62 » by ProfessorJM » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:01 pm

Just for this season, I think Mitchell is already too low. Beyond that, he is way way too low.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2018-19 

Post#63 » by lakerz12 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:05 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
Wade’s era? You mean like 5 years ago? He was probably like one of 2 starting shooting guards in the entire league who didn’t have a reliable 3-pointer in his arsenal. Also, on long 2s (16+ feet), Mitchell shot 44.5% last year. Wade for his career is 38.7%. Never shot as high as Mitchell one season in his career. It’s just verifiably false to say Wade was ever as good of a shooter as Mitchell.


So you mean outside shooter?

You're basing this all on one ONE season of Mitchell, for the record.

Wade's prime ended around 2012. And he entered the league in 2003. So I'm pointing out the fact that during his entire upbringing and college years, the 3 point shot was not so heavily emphasized.

Either way, if you look at the two players as a whole, prime Wade is FAR superior to rookie year Mitchell. Talk to me when Mitchell puts up 30 PPG, 7.5 ast, 5 rebs, 2.2 stls, 1.3 blks on good efficiency.

I'm not even a big Wade fan but it's insulting to compare rookie Mitchell to prime Wade.


I certainly didn’t say that Mitchell was better than prime Wade at anything but shooting.


So is/was Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller, Jason Kapono, Kyle Korver, Tim Leger, Joe Ingles, Redick, Hield, Mike Miller, etc. and on and on. Literally 100s of SG's who shot higher percentage from 3 pt. and FT than DWade.

Not exactly exclusive company. But still, none were close to as good at basketball. So it's not really a point worth anything.

It's like saying he's a better rebounder than Steve Nash.

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