It's been 5 yrs. Can we now say Andrew Wiggins is a Bust?

WuTang_CMB · Post #61 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:28 pm

Bust = Anthony Bennett

Wiggins is just a below average player based on his salary

dhsilv2 · Post #62 » by **dhsilv2** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:29 pm

Forbes wrote:Not a bust, but he was overhyped and has all the tools to be great except for the drive to be great. But he’s an NBA player with a career avg of about 20 empty ppg that about it.

I don't think he has the brain to be great..or even good. You can't be a moron and from what I've seen...I'm not saying he is one, but all signs are pointing that way.

VanWest82 · Post #63 » by **VanWest82** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:30 pm

http://www.startribune.com/renewing-the-argument-that-andrew-wiggins-should-come-off-the-bench/505724112/

BigLurch92 · Post #64 » by **BigLurch92** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:34 pm

Wouldn't say bust but definitely did not live up to the hype.

LakersSoul · Post #65 » by **LakersSoul** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:38 pm

Far from a bust.

Problem lies in the contract given out by the FO.
That was dumb.

Nets are facing a similar issue with Dlo this summer. What do you do with him when he’s a fringe All-Star with a history of injuries?

OdomFan · Post #66 » by **OdomFan** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:50 pm

He's just a serviceable roleplayer at this point. Not a scrub by any means but nowhere near what people expected of him either.

BigtimeNBAfan · Post #67 » by **BigtimeNBAfan** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:15 pm

As others have said he isn't a bust. A 20pt a game scorer who just got a max deal is far from a bust. Busts are guys who either fizzle out of the league quickly or are below average nba players despite being top picks. Wiggins has been underwhelming and hasn't lived up to his hype, but he isn't a bust.

Jabari Parker is getting close to being a bust, but even he I would question. The guy has scored 20 in 2 of his last 3 games and if given the right situation could find a spot. He can score in the NBA.

DaPessimist · Post #68 » by **DaPessimist** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:18 pm

He's a #1 pick on a max contract. Based on that facts, he's a bust.

The_Hater · Post #69 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:22 pm

Durant Durant wrote:not a bust but underwhelming. he's not a game changer.

This seems accurate. But when you factor in the ridiculous contract the Wolves gave him he might be the most overpaid player in the league, and that’s not going to help end the bust talk.

madmaxmedia · Post #70 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:25 pm

DaPessimist wrote:He's a #1 pick on a max contract. Based on that facts, he's a bust.

I agree, although people obviously have different definitions of what constitutes a bust.

His stats seem to indicate a replacement level player, someone whose caliber is not that hard to find in the free agent market (and for a lot less money.) If that's the case it doesn't really matter whether he's out of the league bad, or just totally undistinguished as a player.

Actually in retrospect it would have been better had he flopped out of the league like Bennett, it would have saved the TWolves that contract.

LofJ · Post #71 » by **LofJ** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:26 pm

mudsak wrote:I think he's more lazy than anything. He has superstar ability... but lacks the drive to apply it. I think Melo suffered from a bit of the same thing tbh. That's why his career has been garbage for years now.

Watch... Gordon Hayward will come back next year and outperform Wiggins. Hayward never had any business being a better player than Wiggins. But that's what grit, drive, hard work, and motivation can do for a player. Talent alone isn't enough.

Carmelo lost a lot of his motivation once he was traded to the Knicks, but he was a legitimate all-star level player for many years. Carmelo is on a different level from Wiggins, it's not a good comparison.

skones · Post #72 » by **skones** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:28 pm

He's a bust. Some will look at his scoring and say no because PPGZZZZZZZ but he's a number one overall pick and has not been a positive impact player at any point in his career to date. That's a bust.

Anthony Bennett
Andrea Bargnani
Kwame Brown
Michael Olowokandi

among those who also failed to accomplish this feat, all widely considered "busts."

jg77 · Post #73 » by **jg77** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:31 pm

Could a team like the Spurs turn his career around? I think Wiggins just needs a change of scenery.

uberhikari · Post #74 » by **uberhikari** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:55 pm

It's difficult for me to understand people who claim Andrew Wiggins is a below average player. He has a NEGATIVE career VORP, and this year he will finish with less than 1 WS. How is that just below average? That's horrendous. Hasheem Thabeet has better advanced stats than Wiggins.

QLaz · Post #75 » by **QLaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:59 pm

BullyKing wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:He's hardly a bust. He's just overpaid. And that isn't his fault.

He has not improved one iota during his time in the NBA. Dude's got to shoulder some of the fault there.

So you wouldn't take a career avg 20 pts a game, if Wiggins were making 10 mil a year he would be a steal but now he's a bust, lol. he's just overpaid.

QLaz · Post #76 » by **QLaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:00 pm

skones wrote:He's a bust. Some will look at his scoring and say no because PPGZZZZZZZ but he's a number one overall pick and has not been a positive impact player at any point in his career to date. That's a bust.

Anthony Bennett
Andrea Bargnani
Kwame Brown
Michael Olowokandi

among those who also failed to accomplish this feat, all widely considered "busts."

I guess Devin Booker is a bust, he's not a number 1 pick but his team sure does suck for someone putting up 23-25 pts a game

Quentin · Post #77 » by **Quentin** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:01 pm

QLaz wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:He's hardly a bust. He's just overpaid. And that isn't his fault.

He has not improved one iota during his time in the NBA. Dude's got to shoulder some of the fault there.

So you wouldn't take a career avg 20 pts a game, if Wiggins were making 10 mil a year he would be a steal but now he's a bust, lol. he's just overpaid.

Wow. you obviously don't watch or look at stats. Ooooo 20 points per game! Shi I could do that if I were allowed to take 50 shots. Think about that.

PaKii94 · Post #78 » by **PaKii94** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:02 pm

QLaz wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:He's hardly a bust. He's just overpaid. And that isn't his fault.

He has not improved one iota during his time in the NBA. Dude's got to shoulder some of the fault there.

So you wouldn't take a career avg 20 pts a game, if Wiggins were making 10 mil a year he would be a steal but now he's a bust, lol. he's just overpaid.

Anyone in the NBA can average 20ppg. Won't be pretty but they can average it on piss poor efficiency. You cant use that as a barometer. Especially since Wiggins does it below league efficiency

PaKii94 · Post #79 » by **PaKii94** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:03 pm

QLaz wrote:
skones wrote:He's a bust. Some will look at his scoring and say no because PPGZZZZZZZ but he's a number one overall pick and has not been a positive impact player at any point in his career to date. That's a bust.

Anthony Bennett
Andrea Bargnani
Kwame Brown
Michael Olowokandi

among those who also failed to accomplish this feat, all widely considered "busts."

I guess Devin Booker is a bust, he's not a number 1 pick but his team sure does suck for someone putting up 23-25 pts a game

In a few years, if his team doesn't start to win, he will be an empty stats guy. There always are on bad teams

Stillwater · Post #80 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:03 pm

I think the label bust does not apply in relation to his worth as a player. That being said he absolutely isn't worth his contract and doesn't play like an overall #1 prospect is expected too.