I just realized that literally everything Magic Johnson said was wrong.

[John Murdoch]

1:42 lol sounded like Lavar right there

[Edrees]

Not defending old Magic, but when he said this: ""Every team that had shooting, they got beat", wasn't he actually referring to trying to put together a shooting team to beat the Warriors? That every OTHER team besides the Warriors who were good shooting teams still got beat by the Warriors.

Every team that didn’t have good shooting got beat by the Warriors too, so I wasn’t sure what Magic was trying to get at.

My guess is that he was saying trying to out-shoot the Warriors isn't going to work, so instead we are going to try something different. Of course what he meant by "different" was a complete and utter disaster, but at least he did try something different.

I respect the idea of trying something different but he got way ahead of himself. Maybe first establish the warriors as your opponent by losing to them in the playoffs, then next year try something different. Going from a 35-win team one year to making your primarily form of team-construction the next year as "matching up against the warriors" is just not a good idea.

[lakerz12]

This clip has been posted before but I couldn't help revisiting it since it seems like every quote Magic gives in this clip turned out to be factually wrong.

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"We don't want to run everything through him because then it's Cleveland all over again and we don't want that."
**Lakers have offered coaching job to Tyronn Lue.

"Everyone is saying the Lakers don't have shooting, oh we've got shooting."
**Lakers were 29th in the league in 3-point shooting this season.

"Every team that had shooting, they got beat"
**Warriors won the 2018 NBA Championship with the league best 3-point shooting.

"I built this team based on what happened in the playoffs"
**Lakers missed the playoffs.

"I'm gonna get another superstar."
**Was unable to close Anthony Davis deal.

"You think I'm worried about this? I've been in 9 Finals."
**Quit abruptly before the end of the season saying it wasn't fun, he couldn't handle the backstabbing, and that he 'couldn't stand to tell' Jeanie Buss.

"I'm Magic Johnson."
**...okay, he got that right.

"Every team that had shooting, they got beat-
**Warriors won the 2018 NBA Championship with the league best 3-point shooting".

He was talking about teams that FACED the Warriors and specifically how to beat the Warriors. So using the Warriors as your example doesn't work.

Technically he is correct: the teams with shooting that faced the Warriors did get beat. His point was that you need to have more than shooting to beat them.

I must disagree, sir. He followed that up by talking about the shooters in Philly versus Boston, so he wasn't talking only about teams that faced the Warriors. Also, technically, he said "EVERY team that had shooting, they got beat." Which is an all-encompassing statement, and is demonstrably untrue. The team with the highest 3pt% in the league won the whole thing.

So you think he wasn't aware that the Warriors never got beat or unaware that they had shooting...mmmmkk not likely.

He was obviously talking about teams that got beat...which the Warriors never did.

Notice he never mentioned the Warriors losing...it was an understood premise that he was discussing teams that lost. He could have said "except the Warriors" but everyone already knew he was not referring to them, since they won.

So again, using them as your example is dumb. But not a big deal.

[Ecmic]

"Every team that had shooting, they got beat-
**Warriors won the 2018 NBA Championship with the league best 3-point shooting".

He was talking about teams that FACED the Warriors and specifically how to beat the Warriors. So using the Warriors as your example doesn't work.

Technically he is correct: the teams with shooting that faced the Warriors did get beat. His point was that you need to have more than shooting to beat them.

I must disagree, sir. He followed that up by talking about the shooters in Philly versus Boston, so he wasn't talking only about teams that faced the Warriors. Also, technically, he said "EVERY team that had shooting, they got beat." Which is an all-encompassing statement, and is demonstrably untrue. The team with the highest 3pt% in the league won the whole thing.

So you think he wasn't aware that the Warriors never got beat or unaware that they had shooting...mmmmkk not likely.

He was obviously talking about teams that got beat...which the Warriors never did.

So again, using them as your example is dumb. But not a big deal.

Yeah, dumb it was. More critically, it was a statement devoid of any meaning at all. You could replace “shooting” in “every team that had shooting got beat” with literally any other word and it’d still technically be true, if you remove the one team that won from the equation. “Every team that had two-armed players got beat.”

Magic wasn’t really wrong, but sometimes vapid statements can be more harmful to thought processes than simply being wrong.

[CycklopsGT]

"Every team that had shooting, they got beat-
**Warriors won the 2018 NBA Championship with the league best 3-point shooting".

He was talking about teams that FACED the Warriors and specifically how to beat the Warriors. So using the Warriors as your example doesn't work.

Technically he is correct: the teams with shooting that faced the Warriors did get beat. His point was that you need to have more than shooting to beat them.

I must disagree, sir. He followed that up by talking about the shooters in Philly versus Boston, so he wasn't talking only about teams that faced the Warriors. Also, technically, he said "EVERY team that had shooting, they got beat." Which is an all-encompassing statement, and is demonstrably untrue. The team with the highest 3pt% in the league won the whole thing.

So you think he wasn't aware that the Warriors never got beat or unaware that they had shooting...mmmmkk not likely.

He was obviously talking about teams that got beat...which the Warriors never did.

Notice he never mentioned the Warriors losing...it was an understood premise that he was discussing teams that lost. He could have said "except the Warriors" but everyone already knew he was not referring to them, since they won.

So again, using them as your example is dumb. But not a big deal.

Saying "technically" when his strict interpretation is exactly wrong, is genuinely dumb. Also, Magic said "It's Cleveland all over again and we don't want that," which indicates that he didn't seem to be aware that Cleveland won the championship and beat a 73-win team to do it. So no, he gets no credit.

[CycklopsGT]

I must disagree, sir. He followed that up by talking about the shooters in Philly versus Boston, so he wasn't talking only about teams that faced the Warriors. Also, technically, he said "EVERY team that had shooting, they got beat." Which is an all-encompassing statement, and is demonstrably untrue. The team with the highest 3pt% in the league won the whole thing.

So you think he wasn't aware that the Warriors never got beat or unaware that they had shooting...mmmmkk not likely.

He was obviously talking about teams that got beat...which the Warriors never did.

So again, using them as your example is dumb. But not a big deal.

Yeah, dumb it was. More critically, it was a statement devoid of any meaning at all. You could replace “shooting” in “every team that had shooting got beat” with literally any other word and it’d still technically be true, if you remove the one team that won from the equation. “Every team that had two-armed players got beat.”

Magic wasn’t really wrong, but sometimes vapid statements can be more harmful to thought processes than simply being wrong.

No. Because one team that had shooting did NOT get beat. What you're saying would only be true if Magic had said "all the teams that got beat had people that could shoot."

[SmoothLefty21]

Magic has been bad at everything basketball-related besides being a player. He couldn't coach, was insufferable as a commentator, and now we all know how bad of an executive he is. It's not the least bit surprising.

[Ecmic]

So you think he wasn't aware that the Warriors never got beat or unaware that they had shooting...mmmmkk not likely.

He was obviously talking about teams that got beat...which the Warriors never did.

So again, using them as your example is dumb. But not a big deal.

Yeah, dumb it was. More critically, it was a statement devoid of any meaning at all. You could replace “shooting” in “every team that had shooting got beat” with literally any other word and it’d still technically be true, if you remove the one team that won from the equation. “Every team that had two-armed players got beat.”

Magic wasn’t really wrong, but sometimes vapid statements can be more harmful to thought processes than simply being wrong.

No. Because one team that had shooting did NOT get beat. What you're saying would only be true if Magic had said "all the teams that got beat had people that could shoot."

I guess that’d be a literal interpretation of what Magic said.

I don’t think that’s what he actually meant, though. I could be wrong. I think he was coming from a “you can’t out-Warriors the Warriors” angle, and was moving forward in search of a solution from that, with the Warriors (logically) removed from the equation. But, he is not a clear communicator, so I don’t know.

I read it as a premise toward an argument, not the conclusion of one. Dumb either way.

[CycklopsGT]

Yeah, dumb it was. More critically, it was a statement devoid of any meaning at all. You could replace “shooting” in “every team that had shooting got beat” with literally any other word and it’d still technically be true, if you remove the one team that won from the equation. “Every team that had two-armed players got beat.”

Magic wasn’t really wrong, but sometimes vapid statements can be more harmful to thought processes than simply being wrong.

No. Because one team that had shooting did NOT get beat. What you're saying would only be true if Magic had said "all the teams that got beat had people that could shoot."

I guess that’d be a literal interpretation of what Magic said.

I don’t think that’s what he actually meant, though. I could be wrong. I think he was coming from a “you can’t out-Warriors the Warriors” angle, and was moving forward in search of a solution from that, with the Warriors (logically) removed from the equation. But, he is not a clear communicator, so I don’t know.

I read it as a premise toward an argument, not the conclusion of one. Dumb either way.

Just as a side note, I was bickering with someone who claimed my example was dumb, we might have gotten our wires crossed because you seem to be talking about whether or not what Magic said is dumb. And of course I agree that Magic said something dumb.