Curry 2015 NBA finals

[knuckles862]

fact is that steph has never been the best player in the finals and if he doesn't get it done this year with durant out/hobbled and no lebron his individual legacy is going to take a massive hit.

Actually it would be about the same. The warriors won't be the favorites without Durant Because this warriors cast is not as good as years past. The bench is just awful. Compared to the bucks or raptors bench

[clyde21]

Bottom line , if you are truly a great player , you shouldn’t be here on a forum having bunch of fan boys arguing for you if you even could have won 1 out of 3 finals mvps.LMAO. Just so pathetic. GOAT level players don’t have that type of stuff happening to them .

speaking of pathetic

[Krazykiwi]

Bottom line , if you are truly a great player , you shouldn’t be here on a forum having bunch of fan boys arguing for you if you even could have won 1 out of 3 finals mvps.LMAO. Just so pathetic. GOAT level players don’t have that type of stuff happening to them .

speaking of pathetic

Isn’t it pathetic that a so called GOaT level player isn’t even the unquestioned undeniably best player on his own team. Look at MJ , Shaq, lebron And other real ATG GOAT level players. When they win , it’s not even a question. Because GOAT level players always contribute the most and impact the game the greatest , this is how you are being recognized as the one of the best players ever. Not here arguing on a forum if he could have won even just 1 out of 3 finals mvps lol, yeah it’s epic PATHETIC!

[spicy6]

lebron was historically robbed that year (4 votes to iggy's 7). he'd probably decline the award anyway when it comes in a losing effort but he was the clear-cut best player in the finals that year and single-handedly won 2 games when the cavs were missing their 2nd and 3rd best player. curry has a good chance to get his first finals mvp now that lebron is out and durant is hobbled. watch out for draymond though.

Lebron shot under 40% lol

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So? No love or kyrie you want him to give those shots to delly or JR instead? Nothing wrong with his play those finals its how he should have played and he would do it again if given the chance to do it all over again.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Curry is never winning an NBA Finals even if he scored 50 ppg on 80% 3 pt

Nike is the main sponsor of NBA Finals. An Underarmour guy simply cant win it no matter the performance.

You know Draymond is winning MVP if the Warriors win it all.

[Krazykiwi]

Curry is never winning an NBA Finals even if he scored 50 ppg on 80% 3 pt

Nike is the main sponsor of NBA Finals. An Underarmour guy simply cant win it no matter the performance.

You know Draymond is winning MVP if the Warriors win it all.

Don’t be ridiculous now . 99% of the time finals MVPs were given out fairly. If Curry truly plays the best and carries the most load and contribute the most to the win, he will get recognized as the finals mvp.

About you guys aim for something somewhat respectable, show a little pride, a GOAT level player doesn’t need you guys defending for him furiously if he could win just one finals mvp out of 3. What a pathetic way to discuss a GOAT player. It’s an embarrassment even for Curry himself, he doesn’t need that .

[michaelm]

You curry fan boys are still trying to making excuses for curry . Man, If you are really an ATG GoAT level player , you will have some finals MVPs, not here discussing if he should’ve won 1 out of those 3 Fmvps. I mean a GOAT level player like you fan boys claimed , should unquestionably be the best player on your own team and left the marks on the biggest stage. This is how you become GOAT level player by leading your team to championships and undeniably contributed the most to your team success AKA put the team on the shoulder and not being carried. Look at MJ, Lebron , SHAQ Hakeem, Bird etc... it’s no coincidence.

GSW actually won those 3 titles however which highly elite players like Durant and Iguodala (I am a huge fan of both) didn’t do until they teamed up with Curry, and I am fairly sure wouldn’t have won either the titles or the FMVP awards if the teams concerned had been Curry-less. Both players also joined GSW fairly specifically to play with Curry, Durant in fact has publicly stated this.

That is how Curry rolls, a team player who puts team goals ahead of individual ambition. I am sure he wouldn’t mind an FMVP award, but is also rather happy to keep racking up titles to the chagrin of those like you. Give LeBron the 2015 FMVP award if you like, I think you will find he actually wanted the title win.

How credible did you end up looking on the previous “I hate to break it to you” Curry thread btw?. On the evidence of that thread the opposite of what you post about Curry would seem more likely to prove correct than what you post.

[bellabiyel]

No excuses. This year is Curry's year.

What excuses?

Every Year I have to hear excuses why he didn't win.

Well this year the stage is set in the finals, no Durant, the team on his Back so he should win it, no excuses.

if he ddnt it again..the excuse will be his left hand hahah

[bellabiyel]

No excuses. This year is Curry's year.

What excuses?

Every Year I have to hear excuses why he didn't win.

Well this year the stage is set in the finals, no Durant, the team on his Back so he should win it, no excuses.

if he ddnt win it again..the excuse will be his left hand hahah

[Sulico]

I think Steph is happy about that.
He is most unselfish player in the history, he is lock for HOF and this award can help Iggy join him there one day.

[PistolPeteJR]

Really shows how unimportant the Finals MVP is.

Keep conveniently bending narratives.

The Finals MVP award is voted by a bunch of media members beholden to narratives. The key reason why Iggy even became MVP was because the Cavs deliberately trapped and doubled Curry all series and dared one guy to make open shots.

In other words, you’re telling me other Finals MVPs in history weren’t double teamed? That’s first of all.
Secondly, the Finals MVP award isn’t the only award voted “by a bunch of media members beholden to narratives”, so hold that opinion for all of those awards if you please.

[dhsilv2]

Curry was the real FMVP of both 2015 and 2018.

LeBron was the best player on the court in both those Finals, and played like such.

2018? Game 1 yes, but after that Lebron wasn't really any better than Curry or KD.

[WarriorGM]

Yeah, when I say Curry underperformed in that series, I’m not basing it off stats, but from my memory of the series. Everyone thought he underperformed then for him, which is why he didn’t win Finals MVP. It’s as simple as that. Not some conspiracy the media has against Curry (why would that be?).

Yeah I also remember the narrative going into game 6 of the recently concluded Warriors-Rockets series too. What was it again? Something along the lines of KD their best player is down, the Warriors don't stand a chance of winning the series against the Rockets or anyone else? Curry is playing awful? The Warriors are doomed or something to that effect. If anyone believed the media narrative and bet money on it they'd be big time losers. Just like the losers in this thread.

Why does the media have it in for Curry? Many in the media are basically those in the "cannot do" category of the those who can do and those who cannot teach spectrum. Curry is the poster child for analytics and has rendered previous basketball knowledge obsolete. Many of those commentating are old school and contemptuous of the new school thinking and its primary avatar Wardell Stephen Curry II.

[Krazykiwi]

Yeah, when I say Curry underperformed in that series, I’m not basing it off stats, but from my memory of the series. Everyone thought he underperformed then for him, which is why he didn’t win Finals MVP. It’s as simple as that. Not some conspiracy the media has against Curry (why would that be?).

Yeah I also remember the narrative going into game 6 of the recently concluded Warriors-Rockets series too. What was it again? Something along the lines of KD their best player is down, the Warriors don't stand a chance of winning the series against the Rockets or anyone else? Curry is playing awful? The Warriors are doomed or something to that effect. If anyone believed the media narrative and bet money on it they'd be big time losers. Just like the losers in this thread.

Why does the media have it in for Curry? Many in the media are basically those in the "cannot do" category of the those who can do and those who cannot teach spectrum. Curry is the poster child for analytics and has rendered previous basketball knowledge obsolete. Many of those commentating are old school and contemptuous of the new school thinking and its primary avatar Wardell Stephen Curry II.

Actually you would be the huge loser if you bet on the warriors winning vs the rockets without Kd for the entire series. KD played all the way thru the 4th quarter of game 5, if it wasn’t for Kd, and he did play brilliantly, certainly much much better than Curry considering how pissed poor he was playing , the rockets would have kicked the warriors ass.

Again, anyone can win one game in the NBA, it doesn’t mean anything. But over the course of a series, you would be dumb to believe that the warriors would’ve won vs the rockets without KD.

[WarriorGM]

Yeah, when I say Curry underperformed in that series, I’m not basing it off stats, but from my memory of the series. Everyone thought he underperformed then for him, which is why he didn’t win Finals MVP. It’s as simple as that. Not some conspiracy the media has against Curry (why would that be?).

Yeah I also remember the narrative going into game 6 of the recently concluded Warriors-Rockets series too. What was it again? Something along the lines of KD their best player is down, the Warriors don't stand a chance of winning the series against the Rockets or anyone else? Curry is playing awful? The Warriors are doomed or something to that effect. If anyone believed the media narrative and bet money on it they'd be big time losers. Just like the losers in this thread.

Why does the media have it in for Curry? Many in the media are basically those in the "cannot do" category of the those who can do and those who cannot teach spectrum. Curry is the poster child for analytics and has rendered previous basketball knowledge obsolete. Many of those commentating are old school and contemptuous of the new school thinking and its primary avatar Wardell Stephen Curry II.

Actually you would be the huge loser if you bet on the warriors winning vs the rockets without Kd for the entire series. KD played all the way thru the 4th quarter of game 5, if it wasn’t for Kd, and he did play brilliantly, certainly much much better than Curry considering how pissed poor he was playing , the rockets would have kicked the warriors ass.

Again, anyone can win one game in the NBA, it doesn’t mean anything. But over the course of a series, you would be dumb to believe that the warriors would’ve won vs the rockets without KD.

From basically a tied score at the time KD got injured the Durant-less Warriors won Game 5. Then even with Steph scoring zero for the first half of Game 6 the Warriors come back and win the game with Steph ending with 33 points. Then of course there was the 28-1 record in the last 29 games KD didn't play but Steph did. And even earlier the 73-9 record and the back-to-back MVPs one being unanimous. Just how much more blatant does it need to get? You Steph skeptics are incorrigible. I guess you're still going to go with the narrative that Steph is a front-runner right?

[Peregrine01]

Keep conveniently bending narratives.

The Finals MVP award is voted by a bunch of media members beholden to narratives. The key reason why Iggy even became MVP was because the Cavs deliberately trapped and doubled Curry all series and dared one guy to make open shots.

In other words, you’re telling me other Finals MVPs in history weren’t double teamed? That’s first of all.
Secondly, the Finals MVP award isn’t the only award voted “by a bunch of media members beholden to narratives”, so hold that opinion for all of those awards if you please.

Umm...that's the entire point - Iggy, the Finals MVP that year, was left wide open deliberately by the Cavs.

Narratives in a 7 game series can be a lot more pernicious than a narrative developed over an entire season. But I agree, there's also been a handful of regular season MVPs that weren't quite as deserving (e.g. Derrick Rose).

[510TWSS]

I dunno how anyone that watched that series could pretend Curry played well, admirably, or worth putting up any kind of arguing for. That was ugly, and awful watching him struggle against a complete scrub.

The only thing he did well was get Matthew Dellavadova a massive, undeserved contract.

He torched Delly that series tho

[michaelm]

Yeah, when I say Curry underperformed in that series, I’m not basing it off stats, but from my memory of the series. Everyone thought he underperformed then for him, which is why he didn’t win Finals MVP. It’s as simple as that. Not some conspiracy the media has against Curry (why would that be?).

Yeah I also remember the narrative going into game 6 of the recently concluded Warriors-Rockets series too. What was it again? Something along the lines of KD their best player is down, the Warriors don't stand a chance of winning the series against the Rockets or anyone else? Curry is playing awful? The Warriors are doomed or something to that effect. If anyone believed the media narrative and bet money on it they'd be big time losers. Just like the losers in this thread.

Why does the media have it in for Curry? Many in the media are basically those in the "cannot do" category of the those who can do and those who cannot teach spectrum. Curry is the poster child for analytics and has rendered previous basketball knowledge obsolete. Many of those commentating are old school and contemptuous of the new school thinking and its primary avatar Wardell Stephen Curry II.

Actually you would be the huge loser if you bet on the warriors winning vs the rockets without Kd for the entire series. KD played all the way thru the 4th quarter of game 5, if it wasn’t for Kd, and he did play brilliantly, certainly much much better than Curry considering how pissed poor he was playing , the rockets would have kicked the warriors ass.

Again, anyone can win one game in the NBA, it doesn’t mean anything. But over the course of a series, you would be dumb to believe that the warriors would’ve won vs the rockets without KD.

What is really amusing was your argument in previous posts that LeBron was the real FMVP in 2015. If so you are basically contending it is a narrative based award since Iguodala actually received the award, yet you take Curry to task for not winning it.

[Heat4lyf]

Jerry West won the award in a losing effort because it was the first time the award was handed out and they didn't know what to do with it

it's pretty hypocritical people talk about curry efficiency for a reason he didn't win fmvp when it wasn't that bad and was godly in the 4th but ignore that about bron

All you hear about Westbrook trip dubs is he's inefficient so doesn't mean much but for LeBron it's ok? There's a clear double standard

[kazyv]

Right, Curry always gets the "it was only x amount of bad games!"

The dude has proven he can average 30 a game on low minutes and relatively low shot attempts. When he comes in average 26/6 in 42 minutes, shooting below his averages by a lot, turning the ball over 4.6 times a game all against a team that was in complete shambles with injuries, and wasn't even great on defense before them, I don't think it's anything to brag about.

It was very clear he was a distant second best player in the series, and he did nothing to earn or deserve a finals MVP, so it's really nothing to cry about.

Putting up 26 points and 6 assists with a ton of turnovers in 42 minutes while being hidden on defense is not a Steph Curry level performance.

as per usual, it so happens that the sentiment of curry not being good enough comes from a place lacking any factual basis. when did he prove he could average 30 i wonder? was it by chance the year after the finals, in his second mvp year, when he was 26 and shockingly for a player his age got better?

because in the year 2014/2015 he averaged 23.8 points, so as it happens, he actually elevated his play in the playoffs. now i'm no nba historian, but i would dare you to find another player that had 50% more points than the finals mvp on his own team. i'm confident to say that this has never happened and won't ever happen again. and no, it's not because noone ever played defense like iggy. it's because that is how voting for the finals mvp is done. unless of course there is no clear stand out offensive player. curry had 156 vs 98 points for igoudala on same true shooting. that is the comparison between a star of the team and a very good roleplayer.

A lot of player's legacies would look a lot different if their team wins, and then we can just remove all the bad games and bad quarters from the equation, and just talk about the bright spots.

well, good thing there is no need to remove his bad game then. he had a bad game, then came back to win it for his team with his great performances. he won it for his team as the clear cut star and focal point on offense. the 11 idiots that voted on the award decided to think up some new never before and never again used criteria for who the finals mvp is. the end

edit to elaborate on the last point: there's no need to remove his bad game, because nothing changes, except for the number of games. if we remove that one bad game, gsw warriors still win and curry is still the star of the team that brought them the win.