Top 8 teams in the east

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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#61 » by Duffman100 » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:25 pm

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Ok so the Raptors have question marks just like everyone else.

I don’t understand why it’s so “shocking” if someone isn’t so high on the Raptors.

“Norman Powell and OG are also not players to just scoff at.”

Lol actually yes they are. Can you tell me which playoff team in the NBA has a worse SG/SF combo?


OG is a work in progress I agree but you're severely underrating Norman Powell.


Question marks all around for all the East teams other than Bucks and 76ers.

Btw...I’m a huge fan of Masai so in no way am I hating on Toronto or anything.


76ers bench is a huge question mark. Who's scoring off of that bench?
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#62 » by The_Hater » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:45 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
7footMONSTER wrote:
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OG is a work in progress I agree but you're severely underrating Norman Powell.


Question marks all around for all the East teams other than Bucks and 76ers.

Btw...I’m a huge fan of Masai so in no way am I hating on Toronto or anything.


76ers bench is a huge question mark. Who's scoring off of that bench?


The Sixers offense in general is a huge question mark. Spacing looks like a problem. Losing Butler hurts a lot more than people seem to be letting on.

But they look like they’re built for the playoffs and they could have the leagues top defense. I’m just not convinced they win as many regular season games as most expect.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#63 » by ropjhk » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:47 pm

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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#64 » by ProspectPark » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:53 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
7footMONSTER wrote:
Asif16 wrote:
OG is a work in progress I agree but you're severely underrating Norman Powell.


Question marks all around for all the East teams other than Bucks and 76ers.

Btw...I’m a huge fan of Masai so in no way am I hating on Toronto or anything.


76ers bench is a huge question mark. Who's scoring off of that bench?


They’ll have to stagger their lineups. At all times they will have either Simmons or Embiid on the court.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#65 » by RoyceDa59 » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:53 pm

Regular season Raptors could take the top seed. Without Kawhi last season they were on pace for 64 wins, and they've added Gasol and OG plus good draft picks and FA signings, not to mention improvements in skill and confidence from Siakam, FVV and Powell.

Before Kawhi came to town, they were a 60 win team and the #1 seed. This team is built perfectly for the regular season and they have great chemistry and depth. Same core has been playing together for years.

There's literally no reason why they shouldn't win 55+ games. Anyone sleeping on them is just glancing past them with a (they lost Kawhi, easy 15-20 loss in the wins column). Kawhi only played 60 games last season. Anyone who does even a little bit of research will realize there's no legitimate reason why they shouldn't still be a 55-60 win regular season team. Playoffs of course, is another story.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#66 » by eminence » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:55 pm

I like the Raptors well enough, but hard pass on them pushing 60 wins, losing Kawhi and Danny is no joke.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#67 » by Jadoogar » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:55 pm

Tier 1
Bucks
Sixers

Tier 2
Celtics
Pacers
Raptors
Nets

Tier 3
Heat
Magic
Pistons

Tier 4
Bulls
Knicks
Hawks

Tier 5 (bottom of the barrel)
Cavs
Wizards
Hornets (feels weird that Charlotte won't be in the race for 8/9th seed this year)
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#68 » by LloydFree » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:58 pm

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Nets are pretty deep. Not sure what league you’re watching.

Kyrie, LaVert, DAJ, Allen, Harris, Prince and Dinwiddie is considered a deep roster? Chandler is going to miss the first 2+ months and the rest of the roster is compiled of scrubs and/or unproven young players that have bounced around (like Ellenson and Nwaba). What league are YOU watching?


Lol ok instead of wasting time going back and forth, I’ll provide you with a quote from a recent Zach Lowe article talking about the Nets:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27533126/is-big-two-better-big-three-nba-teams%3fplatform=amp

“The Clippers and Nets surround two stars with real depth that mostly skews young or toward guys in their primes. There is power and longevity in that model.”

See the “Real Depth” part? Let me guess, you are more knowledgeable about the NBA than Zach Lowe?

Let me guess: You don't know the Nets are without two stars this year. They got the 15th best player in the league surrounded by a bunch of role players. They're not going to do a darn thing this year.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#69 » by Bologna Smasher » Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:59 pm

Raptors are going to be a lot better than most think. Siakam is about to be a superstar.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#70 » by ProspectPark » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:03 pm

LloydFree wrote:
7footMONSTER wrote:
pingpongrac wrote:Kyrie, LaVert, DAJ, Allen, Harris, Prince and Dinwiddie is considered a deep roster? Chandler is going to miss the first 2+ months and the rest of the roster is compiled of scrubs and/or unproven young players that have bounced around (like Ellenson and Nwaba). What league are YOU watching?


Lol ok instead of wasting time going back and forth, I’ll provide you with a quote from a recent Zach Lowe article talking about the Nets:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27533126/is-big-two-better-big-three-nba-teams%3fplatform=amp

“The Clippers and Nets surround two stars with real depth that mostly skews young or toward guys in their primes. There is power and longevity in that model.”

See the “Real Depth” part? Let me guess, you are more knowledgeable about the NBA than Zach Lowe?

Let me guess: You don't know the Nets are without two stars this year. They got the 15th best player in the league surrounded by a bunch of role players. They're not going to do a darn thing this year.


In case you can’t read...Nobody said they were going to win the championship this year. :roll:
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#71 » by Duffman100 » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:04 pm

Jadoogar wrote:Tier 1
Bucks
Sixers

Tier 2
Celtics
Pacers
Raptors
Nets

Tier 3
Heat
Magic
Pistons

Tier 4
Bulls
Knicks
Hawks

Tier 5 (bottom of the barrel)
Cavs
Wizards
Hornets (feels weird that Charlotte won't be in the race for 8/9th seed this year)


This is pretty much the best answer. Potential changes could be that the Sixers fall to tier 2 and the Hawks move up to tier 3.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#72 » by The_Hater » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:13 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Regular season Raptors could take the top seed. Without Kawhi last season they were on pace for 64 wins, and they've added Gasol and OG plus good draft picks and FA signings, not to mention improvements in skill and confidence from Siakam, FVV and Powell.

Before Kawhi came to town, they were a 60 win team and the #1 seed. This team is built perfectly for the regular season and they have great chemistry and depth. Same core has been playing together for years.

There's literally no reason why they shouldn't win 55+ games. Anyone sleeping on them is just glancing past them with a (they lost Kawhi, easy 15-20 loss in the wins column). Kawhi only played 60 games last season. Anyone who does even a little bit of research will realize there's no legitimate reason why they shouldn't still be a 55-60 win regular season team. Playoffs of course, is another story.


That’s not happening and using the Kawhi missed games as proof is just short sighted.

The Raps depth is poor this year as well, the worst it’s been in several seasons. They’ve signed one-way, defensive minded players in Johnson, RHJ and McCaw who can neither shoot, score nor help space the offense. They lost Kawhi but also Green and Wright from last year’s trade deadline. They’re basically a 7 deep team and if injuries hit, and they do have an older team, they’ll have some very limited players playing big minutes. That’s just reality.

They could approach 50 wins if the health of the key players is good but I will bet you a lot of money this team doesn’t win 55+ games. And that’s even assuming that players aren’t traded off with an eye towards the future.
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Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.


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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#73 » by jayu70 » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:16 pm

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Raptors
Pacers
Celtics
Nets

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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#74 » by LloydFree » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:30 pm

7footMONSTER wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
7footMONSTER wrote:
Lol ok instead of wasting time going back and forth, I’ll provide you with a quote from a recent Zach Lowe article talking about the Nets:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27533126/is-big-two-better-big-three-nba-teams%3fplatform=amp

“The Clippers and Nets surround two stars with real depth that mostly skews young or toward guys in their primes. There is power and longevity in that model.”

See the “Real Depth” part? Let me guess, you are more knowledgeable about the NBA than Zach Lowe?

Let me guess: You don't know the Nets are without two stars this year. They got the 15th best player in the league surrounded by a bunch of role players. They're not going to do a darn thing this year.


In case you can’t read...Nobody said they were going to win the championship this year. :roll:

You're reading comprehension must also be lacking, because I haven't seen one poster argue for-or-against the Nets winning a Championship this year. Before you got into these childish, Ad-hom' jabs, all anyone said was the Nets aren't nearly as good as the Raptors
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#75 » by poomaster » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:40 pm

I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#76 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:43 pm

1. MIL
2. PHI
3. TOR
4. IND
5. BOS
6. BRK
7. ORL
8. MIA

EF: MIL over PHI
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#77 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Mon Sep 9, 2019 4:55 pm

poomaster wrote:I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.


If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#78 » by jlokine » Mon Sep 9, 2019 5:04 pm

yea, i dont get the nets love...

top 4 team without KD? if KD was playing, i'd get it.. but no way nets without KD are higher than 17-5 raptor team without kawhi..
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#79 » by jlokine » Mon Sep 9, 2019 5:06 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
poomaster wrote:I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.


If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.



masai is not going to just sell those guys if the team is in a playoff position... just thought i'd put the disclaimer in there that the sell off only happens if the team is fighting for 8th or something... just the fact that they are coming off the books is ok if the team was competitive..
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Re: Top 8 teams in the east 

Post#80 » by mademan » Mon Sep 9, 2019 5:09 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
poomaster wrote:I'm expecting the Raptors to take a big step back this season.

Older Lowry, Ibaka and Gasol - , Norm + OG on your wings..... FVV as your back-up until Lowry gets injured then he becomes a starter and that will be hideous. Then the bargain basement dumpster diving collection Masai assembled in the off season. Looks like a throw-away season. Siakam is the only thing the current roster has going for it.


If Masai knows what he is doing (and I'm sure he does) he will try to get as much value out of his expirings as possible.

By deadline I could easily see Toronto imploding and selling the farm for picks and prospects and tanking for Lamelo <-- that was a joke haha

Lowry - 35m expiring

Gasol - 26m expiring

Ibaka - 23m expiring

FVV - 9m expiring

These are all big useful/impact playoff players, albeit on their last leg they could be a huge get for any playoff team.


How many playoff teams have both 20+mill in contracts to send out as well as assets to entice the Raps?

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