They changed the rule bc Tanking works

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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#61 » by TheRealKaboom » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:04 am

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Pointgod wrote:Lakers signed Lebron and traded for AD. How the hell exactly did tanking work out for them? Sixers tanked for Embiid and Simmons, traded for Tobias Harris and Butler, who was then traded for Josh Richardson. They signed Al Horford who will arguably be their second best player. Clippers didn’t tank, Golden State were awful but that had more to do with Curry’s early ankle injuries. Houston didn’t tank. Milwaukee was built through trades and free agent signings.

Meanwhile Phoenix is still garbage, Knicks are garbage, and a bunch of permanent lottery members haven’t been good for a long time.
Lakers traded for Anthony Davis using assets they collected through tanking. It's not that complicated.

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Lakers trades two players that weren’t performing like 2nd overall picks. From New Orleans perspective they still would have made the trade with if they were picked anywhere from 2nd to 8th picks. For the premise to be true that tanking works then at least one of Ingram or Ball would still be on the Lakers. If the premise is that Lakers and Sixers in the finals proves tanking works then at least most of the 5 best players between the two teams should have been a result from tanking.

The Lakers signed a bunch of junk players in order to lose games in order to get draft picks in order to trade for a 26-year-old generational superstar.

Why didn't Danny Ainge or any other GM think to do the same thing?
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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#62 » by ballup » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:31 pm

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TheRealKaboom wrote:Lakers traded for Anthony Davis using assets they collected through tanking. It's not that complicated.

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Lakers trades two players that weren’t performing like 2nd overall picks. From New Orleans perspective they still would have made the trade with if they were picked anywhere from 2nd to 8th picks. For the premise to be true that tanking works then at least one of Ingram or Ball would still be on the Lakers. If the premise is that Lakers and Sixers in the finals proves tanking works then at least most of the 5 best players between the two teams should have been a result from tanking.

The Lakers signed a bunch of junk players in order to lose games in order to get draft picks in order to trade for a 26-year-old generational superstar.

Why didn't Danny Ainge or any other GM think to do the same thing?


They did. It wasn't the lack of competence that other teams failed to get AD. It was AD strong arming to specifically go to the Lakers. Tanking had little to no relevance of AD and Lebron going to LA because they were determined to go there anyways.

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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#63 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:14 pm

This seems silly. Any success the Lakers have (and so far they have none) is not due to tanking. The Warriors success was by no means a result of tanking. Philadelphia is the only case here that I think we can all agree was largely due to tanking. So if Milwaukee, Houston, Golden State, Toronto, Clippers, whoever all succeeded without tanking, and Philadelphia could possibly succeed due to tanking, that hardly seems like a, "See???!? Tanking is the answer!" kinda situation.
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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#64 » by JamalMurray » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:06 pm

Dominater wrote:Funny though how with the Lakers, they had a #7 pick followed by 3 consecutive #2 picks, and none of them are currently still there. They went back to their roots of "we don't have time to deal with young stupid players".

Young guys that are raw tend to get way too overrated and the Lakers weren't buying in to that hype


That's an interesting way of saying "The Lakers had 4 lottery picks in a row, 3 of which were #2 overall, and they traded the only one that became an All-Star".

The Lakers are **** at drafting and have been for some time. Spin it how you want though.
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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#65 » by Jadoogar » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:12 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
DarthTeufel wrote:i would say the Finals favorites are Clippers and Milwaukee. two teams that went against tanking/bottoming out.

it's certainly not the Lakers, that's for sure. They are going to be out in the first round.

Bucks got worse

That Horfors pick up us huge for Philly. Josh Richardson was also a very underrated move for Sixers.

They def are the favorites.


That's not really the point. You could say tanking worked by pointing at the Sixers/Lakers or you could say tanking doesn't matter by pointing at Bucks/Clippers. All 4 are the best teams in their respective conference (tbd for Lakers actually).
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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#66 » by iLLmatic860 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:35 pm

Tanking works to a degree because you still have to make the right choice. Luck is always a factor when it comes to sports. 15 teams passed on Greek Freak. All of their franchises could’ve changed dramatically if they chose him. Bucks got extremely lucky.
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Re: They changed the rule bc Tanking works 

Post#67 » by Danny1616 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:40 pm

Ask the Wolves, Suns, Kings, Magic and the Knicks how tanking worked for them.

Wolves made the playoffs once in over a decade despite getting lottery picks year after year.

The Kings are a .500 team now but still havn't made the playoffs in over a decade despite getting lottery picks every year.

Teams like the Raptors and Warriors didn't tank and became champions through smart drafting and trades.

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