Chinese Basketball Association announce that they will cut off all cooperation with the Houston Rockets

[Vae Victus]

If MSM is your only source for information on foreign affairs then you probably are getting a distorted view of the situation.

Yea i was Pro-HK Protestors until i had some of my none HK native friends (American Born Chinese Taiwanese like myself mainly) working in HK lay down the reality on the ground. My HK born and raised friends otoh are 110% all-in for Free HK, the HK born in America group is 50/50 in regards to their support.

There are literal roving riot mobs going around looking for non HK natives to beat up. One of my mainland friends almost got his ass kicked cuz he doesnt really speak fluent Cantonese (speaks fluent Mandarin, decent but heavily accented English) and only got bailed out cuz he was with co-workers who were HK natives that were willing to step and possibly take a beating for him. Another ABC friend who works in HK and has a mainland wife who's pregnant basically faced straight up racism in the hospital the last time they went in for a check up. One nurse basically calling her a cockroach stealing medical services from Hong Kongers and that she needs to gtfo of the country. My friend damn near murdered the nurse cuz she was all up in his pregnant wife's face, and he was cussing up a storm in English (his Mandarin/Canto is trash tier) and that made the racist HKers back off. Hell there's a story going out how a Mainland reporter who works for a Western (Euro i think) news agency getting straight up harassed by protestors calling her a fake reporter and that she needs to get gtfo or theyll kill her for trying to make them look bad.

Mainland Chinese working/living in HK are basically under threat 24/7 and have to be careful with what they say or do, otherwise a radical Free HK lynch mob will form (via Social Media calling violent rioters over) to jump them. B

https://streamable.com/tgzwf

This is a pretty good example of the harassment and assault. This is some mainland office worker dude on his phone getting harassed by some HK press guy in the vest (however there's good odds he's a fake just wearing press gear in order to be able to travel freely during riots, since HK cops leave them be). The Chinese dude is obvious annoyed that the guy is all up in his grill, the crowd is chanting in Cantonese "Go **** your mother" and "Go back home", then the guy stops to confront the crowd yelling, "We are all Chinese", and then that white press dude **** closed the door on him to trap him, i dunno wtf is going on here, but this guy needs to be brought up on charges or fired for his part in this. You see the office lady in white trying to open the door and someone was holding it closed and then the office worker gets jumped from behind.

https://youtu.be/RFwGqF3QlVc

This guy is an ABC who decided to goto China to check things out, he basically went out and printed a fake press badge and bought a news vest, and basically just decided to see what being a fake reporter in HK is like. If some shlub like him can do that so easily, i honestly think at least 80% of the so called "reporters/press" over there are fake as well.

There's captions in the video on whats going down and clearly this **** is **** out of control. Ooh bonus kicker, i think the dude getting beat is a native HKer since he speaks fluent Cantonese, the crowd got on him cuz i think he said something pro-China or maybe tore down an anti China poster, who knows. The HK rioters are just looking for any reason to beat on people they think are opposing them.

Yea..... this is Free HK Protestors in a nutshell. For some reason the Western media (gee i wonder why) is covering these type of actions cuz it makes the HK prostestors look really really bad. Hell the only reason i see these vids is cuz of my overseas friends showing me obscure FB and twitter feeds showing the true crazy **** on the ground.

[DreamTeam09]

I'm always on the side of the people. Therefore I'm siding with Morey, and I believe the NBA should as well. Not all money is good money, you need to have morals & a backbone.

[13th Man]

I believe in freedom of speech but not without consequence.

This is why I've been saying all along to keep the political, SJW stuff out of sports. Why do you think the NBA has a policy for players to stand up straight during the national anthem? Because it all boils down to the mighty dollar, they don't want to lose millions of viewers as to what happened with the NFL during those episodes?

I especially don't condone expressing your political views on your employer's platform and time. This is why I never engage in political discussion at work, I just let the others make a fool out of themselves while alienating half of the people around them.

You can argue that Morey was tweeting on his own time on behalf of himself and not the Rockets but sorry this is still in bad judgement. Firstly, he is the GM of the Rockets that's his only function there are great ties to the organization and secondly; China is a communist country which don't believe in freedom of speech so it doesn't surprise me the swift action that they have taken.

Freedom of speech, I endorse. Freedom without consequence? Nope.

[Johnny Bball]

I really find it disconcerting the number of Americans that think he can't or shouldn't say what he did (both threads). That the NBA or rockets should/would punish Morey. That he can't speak freely. That he has to censor himself. Because another nation limits free speech.

Just out of curiosity.... do you think it's you that changed with regards to freedom, or do you think it's a larger scale brainwashing or cultural change that makes people willingly surrender their rights?

Equivalent to this situation where Rockets GM support Hong Kong is situation where president of company that is part of the military industrial complex criticize selling arms to their biggest clients. It's just stupid and show lack of self awareness.

So definitely the latter part in my question then. You understand that if Americans en masse didn't believe this, didn't believe they had to tiptoe around another nations desire to continue to try to hide what is in plain sight, then it wouldn't be the issue that it is to speak out.

[mynameKIM]

I'm always on the side of the people. Therefore I'm siding with Morey, and I believe the NBA should as well. Not all money is good money, you need to have morals & a backbone.

*checks cash*

Nope they're all good money brah.

[Hangtime84]

China is going so slowly conform but right now power corrupts.

Gonna be hard to tell fans to stop watching their favorite team

[spikeslovechild]

Morey is such a clown.

[13th Man]

Every private company that I've ever worked for has policies that prohibit their employees from saying **** that would put them in a bad light such as talking to the media, voicing your opinions on news broadcasts etc. This shouldn't be any different.

Imagine if you worked for a corporation with a huge sponsor and you publicly talked bad about the sponsor, how do think your employer would take it? I'm guessing that there would be a pink slip before you even walk into the door the next day. As I mentioned earlier, freedom of speech means squat if it's going to damage your employer's reputation and bottom dollar. You may have gotten your point across but not without repercussion.

Morey definitely shouldn't have tweeted that imo and I don't expect the Rockets or the NBA to back him up on it either. I'm not sure what action they might take against him though.

[lakerz12]

Very interesting and difficult situation for the NBA.

If they are truly principled, shouldn't they pull out of China entirely and protect/defend their own (the Rockets franchise).

But no, they are a compilation of owners that care most about protecting the value of their franchises. And China represents a huge body of buyers that they value immensely long term. Which is why the Rocket's owner immediately condemned Morey's tweet. Because the Rockets are probably worth 20% less without China.

So the NBA will try to appease China most likely. But also try to avoid negative publicity somehow. Their PR teams are working overtime.

[13th Man]

Very interesting and difficult situation for the NBA.

If they are truly principled, shouldn't they pull out of China entirely and protect/defend their own (the Rockets franchise).

But no, they are a compilation of owners that care most about protecting the value of their franchises. And China represents a huge body of buyers that they value immensely long term. Which is why the Rocket's owner immediately condemned Morey's tweet. Because the Rockets are probably worth 20% less without China.

So the NBA will try to appease China most likely. But also try to avoid negative publicity somehow. Their PR teams are working overtime.

Exactly. This is why I've been saying all along to keep the political BS out of sports.

[og15]

If MSM is your only source for information on foreign affairs then you probably are getting a distorted view of the situation.

Yea i was Pro-HK Protestors until i had some of my none HK native friends (American Born Chinese Taiwanese like myself mainly) working in HK lay down the reality on the ground. My HK born and raised friends otoh are 110% all-in for Free HK, the HK born in America group is 50/50 in regards to their support.

There are literal roving riot mobs going around looking for non HK natives to beat up. One of my mainland friends almost got his ass kicked cuz he doesnt really speak fluent Cantonese (speaks fluent Mandarin, decent but heavily accented English) and only got bailed out cuz he was with co-workers who were HK natives that were willing to step and possibly take a beating for him. Another ABC friend who works in HK and has a mainland wife who's pregnant basically faced straight up racism in the hospital the last time they went in for a check up. One nurse basically calling her a cockroach stealing medical services from Hong Kongers and that she needs to gtfo of the country. My friend damn near murdered the nurse cuz she was all up in his pregnant wife's face, and he was cussing up a storm in English (his Mandarin/Canto is trash tier) and that made the racist HKers back off. Hell there's a story going out how a Mainland reporter who works for a Western (Euro i think) news agency getting straight up harassed by protestors calling her a fake reporter and that she needs to get gtfo or theyll kill her for trying to make them look bad.

Mainland Chinese working/living in HK are basically under threat 24/7 and have to be careful with what they say or do, otherwise a radical Free HK lynch mob will form (via Social Media calling violent rioters over) to jump them. B

https://streamable.com/tgzwf

This is a pretty good example of the harassment and assault. This is some mainland office worker dude on his phone getting harassed by some HK press guy in the vest (however there's good odds he's a fake just wearing press gear in order to be able to travel freely during riots, since HK cops leave them be). The Chinese dude is obvious annoyed that the guy is all up in his grill, the crowd is chanting in Cantonese "Go **** your mother" and "Go back home", then the guy stops to confront the crowd yelling, "We are all Chinese", and then that white press dude **** closed the door on him to trap him, i dunno wtf is going on here, but this guy needs to be brought up on charges or fired for his part in this. You see the office lady in white trying to open the door and someone was holding it closed and then the office worker gets jumped from behind.

https://youtu.be/RFwGqF3QlVc

This guy is an ABC who decided to goto China to check things out, he basically went out and printed a fake press badge and bought a news vest, and basically just decided to see what being a fake reporter in HK is like. If some shlub like him can do that so easily, i honestly think at least 80% of the so called "reporters/press" over there are fake as well.

There's captions in the video on whats going down and clearly this **** is **** out of control. Ooh bonus kicker, i think the dude getting beat is a native HKer since he speaks fluent Cantonese, the crowd got on him cuz i think he said something pro-China or maybe tore down an anti China poster, who knows. The HK rioters are just looking for any reason to beat on people they think are opposing them.

Yea..... this is Free HK Protestors in a nutshell. For some reason the Western media (gee i wonder why) is covering these type of actions cuz it makes the HK prostestors look really really bad. Hell the only reason i see these vids is cuz of my overseas friends showing me obscure FB and twitter feeds showing the true crazy **** on the ground.

Hmm, that's complicated.

This can always become an issue in any uprising, once it's started, it becomes very hard to contain everyone who gets involved. People will join with their own agendas and ideologies, and they can start to rally together and promote their own things that might not even be in line with the original intent.

[DaPessimist]

I like these subjects because it really shows what people value, and who is willing to ignore their values for money.

Not surprising where the billionaire falls on that scale.

[KembaWalker]

Very interesting and difficult situation for the NBA.

If they are truly principled, shouldn't they pull out of China entirely and protect/defend their own (the Rockets franchise).

But no, they are a compilation of owners that care most about protecting the value of their franchises. And China represents a huge body of buyers that they value immensely long term. Which is why the Rocket's owner immediately condemned Morey's tweet. Because the Rockets are probably worth 20% less without China.

So the NBA will try to appease China most likely. But also try to avoid negative publicity somehow. Their PR teams are working overtime.

There are more people here that have been damaged than just the owners. BRI goes to the players in a split. He's hurting everybody. Morey is a clown for hurting his colleagues this badly for such a hollow, meaningless twitter gesture.

[Showdown]

I really find it disconcerting the number of Americans that think he can't or shouldn't say what he did (both threads). That the NBA or rockets should/would punish Morey. That he can't speak freely. That he has to censor himself. Because another nation limits free speech.

Just out of curiosity.... do you think it's you that changed with regards to freedom, or do you think it's a larger scale brainwashing or cultural change that makes people willingly surrender their rights?

Equivalent to this situation where Rockets GM support Hong Kong is situation where president of company that is part of the military industrial complex criticize selling arms to their biggest clients. It's just stupid and show lack of self awareness.

So definitely the latter part in my question then. You understand that if Americans en masse didn't believe this, didn't believe they had to tiptoe around another nations desire to continue to try to hide what is in plain sight, then it wouldn't be the issue that it is to speak out.

NBA administration knew what kind of country is China when they started doing buisiness with them and they accepted their rules because they saw chance to earn more money. NBA administration can decide to stop dealing with them but until they do that GM's of the NBA franchises should be aware of fact that they accepted those rules and behave in a way that wont hurt their franchise.

[Paradise]

The NBA would be wise to cancel the Lakers/Nets China series but its likely too late. I think both teams already begun travel.

The league should pretty much tell CBA to F off with that. It’s still freedom of speech here but we all know it won’t happen. The league is in bed with China and their ownership groups.

[The Rebel]

And guess who the president of Chinese Basketball league is?

Yao Ming

Who played his whole career with the Rockets and had his jersey retired. Nice for Yao to pay them back like this.

Yao and his family would likely be publicly killed if he was to take the Rockets side in this. The dictator is not going to tolerate public disrespect from a star. You guys really need to inderstand the truth os life is very different in other countries than the US.

[bakaneko16]

If MSM is your only source for information on foreign affairs then you probably are getting a distorted view of the situation.

Yea i was Pro-HK Protestors until i had some of my none HK native friends (American Born Chinese Taiwanese like myself mainly) working in HK lay down the reality on the ground. My HK born and raised friends otoh are 110% all-in for Free HK, the HK born in America group is 50/50 in regards to their support.

There are literal roving riot mobs going around looking for non HK natives to beat up. One of my mainland friends almost got his ass kicked cuz he doesnt really speak fluent Cantonese (speaks fluent Mandarin, decent but heavily accented English) and only got bailed out cuz he was with co-workers who were HK natives that were willing to step and possibly take a beating for him. Another ABC friend who works in HK and has a mainland wife who's pregnant basically faced straight up racism in the hospital the last time they went in for a check up. One nurse basically calling her a cockroach stealing medical services from Hong Kongers and that she needs to gtfo of the country. My friend damn near murdered the nurse cuz she was all up in his pregnant wife's face, and he was cussing up a storm in English (his Mandarin/Canto is trash tier) and that made the racist HKers back off. Hell there's a story going out how a Mainland reporter who works for a Western (Euro i think) news agency getting straight up harassed by protestors calling her a fake reporter and that she needs to get gtfo or theyll kill her for trying to make them look bad.

Mainland Chinese working/living in HK are basically under threat 24/7 and have to be careful with what they say or do, otherwise a radical Free HK lynch mob will form (via Social Media calling violent rioters over) to jump them. B

https://streamable.com/tgzwf

This is a pretty good example of the harassment and assault. This is some mainland office worker dude on his phone getting harassed by some HK press guy in the vest (however there's good odds he's a fake just wearing press gear in order to be able to travel freely during riots, since HK cops leave them be). The Chinese dude is obvious annoyed that the guy is all up in his grill, the crowd is chanting in Cantonese "Go **** your mother" and "Go back home", then the guy stops to confront the crowd yelling, "We are all Chinese", and then that white press dude **** closed the door on him to trap him, i dunno wtf is going on here, but this guy needs to be brought up on charges or fired for his part in this. You see the office lady in white trying to open the door and someone was holding it closed and then the office worker gets jumped from behind.

https://youtu.be/RFwGqF3QlVc

This guy is an ABC who decided to goto China to check things out, he basically went out and printed a fake press badge and bought a news vest, and basically just decided to see what being a fake reporter in HK is like. If some shlub like him can do that so easily, i honestly think at least 80% of the so called "reporters/press" over there are fake as well.

There's captions in the video on whats going down and clearly this **** is **** out of control. Ooh bonus kicker, i think the dude getting beat is a native HKer since he speaks fluent Cantonese, the crowd got on him cuz i think he said something pro-China or maybe tore down an anti China poster, who knows. The HK rioters are just looking for any reason to beat on people they think are opposing them.

Yea..... this is Free HK Protestors in a nutshell. For some reason the Western media (gee i wonder why) is covering these type of actions cuz it makes the HK prostestors look really really bad. Hell the only reason i see these vids is cuz of my overseas friends showing me obscure FB and twitter feeds showing the true crazy **** on the ground.

Unfortunately no one looks at these things. It's always USA-Good, China-Bad. Also I wouldn't even call them protestors. They are rioters and terrorists. If any of this **** happened in the US they would've already been shot.

[zimpy27]

Very interesting and difficult situation for the NBA.

If they are truly principled, shouldn't they pull out of China entirely and protect/defend their own (the Rockets franchise).

But no, they are a compilation of owners that care most about protecting the value of their franchises. And China represents a huge body of buyers that they value immensely long term. Which is why the Rocket's owner immediately condemned Morey's tweet. Because the Rockets are probably worth 20% less without China.

So the NBA will try to appease China most likely. But also try to avoid negative publicity somehow. Their PR teams are working overtime.

Well the NBA will probably try to work behind the scenes with Morey to get him to publicly apologize and mend fences.

It will look like Morey backflipped. It won't look like the NBA did anything.

[13th Man]

If MSM is your only source for information on foreign affairs then you probably are getting a distorted view of the situation.

Yea i was Pro-HK Protestors until i had some of my none HK native friends (American Born Chinese Taiwanese like myself mainly) working in HK lay down the reality on the ground. My HK born and raised friends otoh are 110% all-in for Free HK, the HK born in America group is 50/50 in regards to their support.

There are literal roving riot mobs going around looking for non HK natives to beat up. One of my mainland friends almost got his ass kicked cuz he doesnt really speak fluent Cantonese (speaks fluent Mandarin, decent but heavily accented English) and only got bailed out cuz he was with co-workers who were HK natives that were willing to step and possibly take a beating for him. Another ABC friend who works in HK and has a mainland wife who's pregnant basically faced straight up racism in the hospital the last time they went in for a check up. One nurse basically calling her a cockroach stealing medical services from Hong Kongers and that she needs to gtfo of the country. My friend damn near murdered the nurse cuz she was all up in his pregnant wife's face, and he was cussing up a storm in English (his Mandarin/Canto is trash tier) and that made the racist HKers back off. Hell there's a story going out how a Mainland reporter who works for a Western (Euro i think) news agency getting straight up harassed by protestors calling her a fake reporter and that she needs to get gtfo or theyll kill her for trying to make them look bad.

Mainland Chinese working/living in HK are basically under threat 24/7 and have to be careful with what they say or do, otherwise a radical Free HK lynch mob will form (via Social Media calling violent rioters over) to jump them. B

https://streamable.com/tgzwf

This is a pretty good example of the harassment and assault. This is some mainland office worker dude on his phone getting harassed by some HK press guy in the vest (however there's good odds he's a fake just wearing press gear in order to be able to travel freely during riots, since HK cops leave them be). The Chinese dude is obvious annoyed that the guy is all up in his grill, the crowd is chanting in Cantonese "Go **** your mother" and "Go back home", then the guy stops to confront the crowd yelling, "We are all Chinese", and then that white press dude **** closed the door on him to trap him, i dunno wtf is going on here, but this guy needs to be brought up on charges or fired for his part in this. You see the office lady in white trying to open the door and someone was holding it closed and then the office worker gets jumped from behind.

https://youtu.be/RFwGqF3QlVc

This guy is an ABC who decided to goto China to check things out, he basically went out and printed a fake press badge and bought a news vest, and basically just decided to see what being a fake reporter in HK is like. If some shlub like him can do that so easily, i honestly think at least 80% of the so called "reporters/press" over there are fake as well.

There's captions in the video on whats going down and clearly this **** is **** out of control. Ooh bonus kicker, i think the dude getting beat is a native HKer since he speaks fluent Cantonese, the crowd got on him cuz i think he said something pro-China or maybe tore down an anti China poster, who knows. The HK rioters are just looking for any reason to beat on people they think are opposing them.

Yea..... this is Free HK Protestors in a nutshell. For some reason the Western media (gee i wonder why) is covering these type of actions cuz it makes the HK prostestors look really really bad. Hell the only reason i see these vids is cuz of my overseas friends showing me obscure FB and twitter feeds showing the true crazy **** on the ground.

Sounds like a toxic environment and sad situation to be in. I can somewhat understand why the native HKers would be so defensive during this time as they're fighting for their livelihood and autonomy but there's no excuses for beating up innocent people. The guys you mentioned sound like thugs.

[dc]

Unfortunately no one looks at these things. It's always USA-Good, China-Bad. Also I wouldn't even call them protestors. They are rioters and terrorists. If any of this **** happened in the US they would've already been shot.

Plenty of riots have occurred out of protests in the US and I would say most Americans (even if they agree with why some people are protesting) think it's really stupid for people to burn down/vandalize their own communities.

That being said, very few of these people who have rioted have ever actually been shot by authorities (it's a VERY BIG deal if that ever happens) and I don't believe anyone of them have ever been charged for domestic terrorism.