Jaylen Brown turned down $80M

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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#61 » by kulaz3000 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:48 pm

NY 567 wrote:Hopefully he gets Nerlens Noel'd. He's an average starter/good bench player looking for superstar money. Hilarious.


Why would you hope that?

Brown will be fine, even if he doesn't get the max he will get close to it enough. He isn't useless like Noel.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#62 » by mademan » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:49 pm

bisme37 wrote:
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How? I think both Hield and Siakam are both the better players right now. Brown has yet to have a season with a positive BPM. Per game stats or advanced stats for the regular season, both Hield and Siakam just had better seasons than Brown has ever had. Siakam just won a championship and put together a better playoff run than Brown has had.


I'm trying not to use any harsh words, but it is pretty [insert harsh words] to say Brown has "had a better career to this point" than someone who was arguably just the second best player on a Championship team.

Hield and Siakam's stats last year were much better than Brown's as well. They are both a level above him.


I became ineloquent as I made successive comments. It wasn't right for me to say he's had a better career so far. I was just pointing out he's appeared in multiple postseasons at age 22 and been good each time, because a lot of folks seem to have a very short memory. (He's like Nerlens Noel? Seriously?)

Pascal is the better player now but he's 3 years older and Jaylen has been more consistent in the postseason over his 3 year career. So while I wouldn't give Jaylen the max Pascal is getting, he's worth something more than 4/80.


Statistically, very arguable. But thats only if you give weight to what they did as rookies, where Pascal played 10 minutes total. In reality, Pascal has been much better in the playoffs by almost every measure.

He scores more
He's more effecient
averages more rebounds, assists, steals, blocks

It's actually kinda difficult to find any way to quantify your statement that Brown has been more consistent in the playoffs.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#63 » by NY 567 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:52 pm

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NY 567 wrote:Hopefully he gets Nerlens Noel'd. He's an average starter/good bench player looking for superstar money. Hilarious.


Why would you hope that?

Brown will be fine, even if he doesn't get the max he will get close to it enough. He isn't useless like Noel.

Noel actually is quite a good defender. Brown is is pretty average everywhere. Their just isn't any compelling reason to pay Brown, he's not that good and doesn't really show flashes of being anything special.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#64 » by akhan786 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:54 pm

Trade him and filler for Brad Beal
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#65 » by LloydFree » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:03 pm

RCM88x wrote:He'll either cave or the C's will trade him for a FRP lower than where they drafted him and turn it into a worse player.

He won't cave. Not for 80 million. What's the worse thing that could happen? He waits until the summer and Atlanta or Memphis offers him 'only' 4/60 million? Even if that was the kind of contract he received, it would probably contain a poison pill in year 3. Unless he has a career ending injury, he has been almost no chance of taking a significant loss in the long run.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#66 » by LakersSoul » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:06 pm

$80/4 is about right but right now teams will offer him $100-110/4.

DA will have to decide and pay going rate or what Brown is worth.

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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#67 » by robbie84 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:39 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:
NY 567 wrote:Hopefully he gets Nerlens Noel'd. He's an average starter/good bench player looking for superstar money. Hilarious.


Why would you hope that?

Brown will be fine, even if he doesn't get the max he will get close to it enough. He isn't useless like Noel.

Noel actually is quite a good defender. Brown is is pretty average everywhere. Their just isn't any compelling reason to pay Brown, he's not that good and doesn't really show flashes of being anything special.



You've obviously watched no more than 10 minutes of Brown or you're a Celtics hater.
Probably both.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#68 » by spikeslovechild » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:42 pm

If Marcus Smart gets 52 million then Brown should at least get 100.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#69 » by kulaz3000 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:43 pm

robbie84 wrote:You've obviously watched no more than 10 minutes of Brown or you're a Celtics hater.
Probably both.
Stay salty.


I don't quite understand this response.

Because we don't believe he is a max player, it means that we've only watched 10 minutes of Brown or a Celtic hater? The overreaction and sensitivity in your response is interesting to say the least.

If you believe what we are saying is untrue, then state in which areas you think Brown excels in?
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#70 » by mademan » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:46 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:If Marcus Smart gets 52 million then Brown should at least get 100.


But Smart is better than Brown. Significantly
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#71 » by MrBigShot » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:51 pm

Not sure if he's worth more than that but I think he can get more from another team if waits for RFA.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#72 » by NY 567 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:51 pm

robbie84 wrote:
NY 567 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
Why would you hope that?

Brown will be fine, even if he doesn't get the max he will get close to it enough. He isn't useless like Noel.

Noel actually is quite a good defender. Brown is is pretty average everywhere. Their just isn't any compelling reason to pay Brown, he's not that good and doesn't really show flashes of being anything special.



You've obviously watched no more than 10 minutes of Brown or you're a Celtics hater.
Probably both.
Stay salty.

You're the one that comes across as emotional, if anything. What makes him so good? His volume numbers are nothing special, his advanced metrics aren't that good, he was like the 5th option on the Celtics last year, so tell me why he should get paid? What makes him any better than average? I mean, if you guys want to pay him, go right ahead, I'm sure as hell not going to stop the Celtics from hurting their future prospects, but it isn't really a good idea. He's literally all hype, all of his perceived value comes from the fact that he plays for the Celtics and from the fact that Ainge artificially increased said perceived value by overrating him and not including him in trades for stars. He created Browns hype and his big ego.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#73 » by dakomish23 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:00 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
NY 567 wrote:Hopefully he gets Nerlens Noel'd. He's an average starter/good bench player looking for superstar money. Hilarious.


Why would you hope that?

Brown will be fine, even if he doesn't get the max he will get close to it enough. He isn't useless like Noel.


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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#74 » by dakomish23 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Half the people talking smack in here will be wanting to sign Jaylen to an offer sheet next summer providing their team has the cap space. :lol:


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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#75 » by sfernald » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:04 am

This guy really needs to fire his agent. Oh wait, he is his own agent. Maybe he should be spending more time practicing b-ball and less time agenting then cause he ain’t all that, that’s fosho.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#76 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:07 am

sfernald wrote:This guy really needs to fire his agent. Oh wait, he is his own agent. Maybe he should be spending more time practicing b-ball and less time agenting then cause he ain’t all that, that’s fosho.



Imagine making this post and not realizing Brown hired an agent a week ago and is obviously being instructed by that same agent to turn down the deal :lol: :lol: :lol:


https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2019/10/10/jaylen-brown-agent-contract-negotiations



His new agent is the guy that got Al Horford 4 years $109 million.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#77 » by LastNameEver » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:11 am

What makes Jaylen Brown worth 100m ?..
I've watched him extensively in the east.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#78 » by Up-And-Coming » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 am

bisme37 wrote:Hield is being offered 4/$90M (and wants even more) and Siakam is being offered a full max extension. Brown is several years younger than both those guys and more proven in the playoffs as well. (Especially compared to Hield, but he's scored more over his 1st 3 playoffs than Siakam too. And again, he's 3 years younger.) So the team will eventually have to come up into at least Hield money I would think.


Hield is better than Jaylen imo. He’s older but he’s arguably the 2nd or 3rd best shooter in the NBA after Steph and Klay.

I value Hield more than Jaylen but there might be some bottom team with cap space that maxes him
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#79 » by XxIronChainzxX » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:20 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
Yogatti wrote:This is the guy Danny Ainge didn't want to give up when Paul George, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leonard were demanding trades.

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3 of those 4 have been played for multiple teams in three years.

Ainge didn’t trade for them because he knew they wouldn’t stay. Smart decisions


Totally. All Toronto has to show for trading for Kawhi is an NBA championship.
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Re: Jaylen Brown turned down $80M 

Post#80 » by XxIronChainzxX » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:23 am

bisme37 wrote:Hield is being offered 4/$90M (and wants even more) and Siakam is being offered a full max extension. Brown is several years younger than both those guys and more proven in the playoffs as well. (Especially compared to Hield, but he's scored more over his 1st 3 playoffs than Siakam too. And again, he's 3 years younger.) So the team will eventually have to come up into at least Hield money I would think.


Siakam was the #2 option most of the time on a title team and was a massive impact player in winning a ring. Maybe he's the guy Siakam is today in 3 years, but that doesn't mean he's worth max money today.

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